Note from the Author: The enigmatic Kolbrin contains alongside its Celtic records six ancient Egyptian books, the remnants of scrolls written or copied by scribes from much earlier writings whose provenance has not yet been proven. Most people dismiss the books as forgeries. I am convinced that their core material is genuine.

The ancient Egyptians were under no illusions about their origins. ‘We dwell in a land of three peoples,’ wrote a scribe in the Kolbrin’s Book of Scrolls: human beings, he said, came from ‘the land of many waters slow-flowing to the sea’1; ‘the Great One came from Ramakui’, and ‘wisdom came from Zaidor’2. Three places of origin are pinpointed in the Egyptian Books: ‘mountain-girt Kelathi,’3 ‘age-old Ramakui’4, and ‘the land out in the green waters where the sun sets beyond Keftu’5. And the Kolbrin records three terrible destructions in these three lands.

Where were the lands? Who came from them? The Egyptian Books contain several accounts of ancestors arriving in Egypt looking for refuge, bringing with them treasures and advanced knowledge from their shattered civilisations after catastrophic events had destroyed their own homelands.

These days, opinions concerning Egypt’s origins tend to be polarised between, on the one hand, a staunch Egyptians-have-always-been-in-Egypt perspective and an alternative view which sees legendary Atlantis lurking behind every pyramid. But according to the Kolbrin, Egyptian origins were far more complex.

The First Lost Land
Kelathi – Indian Ocean

The first land on Earth wherein men dwelt was not Kahemu, it was a land out beyond the salt waters…’  writes the scribe Thotis in the Egyptian books. None knows in truth the Old Motherland or where it was, there are tales, but they disagree. The Nine Bows6 say it was Southward, the learned priests are not united in thought, some say towards the West where the sun now sets, while others say towards the East where the sun rises…’7

Elsewhere in the Book of Manuscripts, a scribe writes, ‘My land is old… Four times the stars have moved to new positions and twice the sun has changed the direction of his journey8– in other words, the Earth’s axis has dramatically changed several times. This sounds incredible, but the Greek historian Herodotus (c 484 –25 BC) was told the same when he was in Egypt9; so too was the Roman geographer Pomponius10 11.

The Kolbrin also says that ‘in the early days Egypt was bounded in the West by the green bitter waters,’12 and that the earliest refugees of an advanced civilization arrived ‘from the ‘the place where now the sun goes down; in the days when the Western wilderness was green and sand had not replaced the waters; when the outlands nourished cattle and sheep fed where now there is nought but rock and stone.’13 The Earth’s poles and its climate are said to have changed so dramatically in distant times that by the 8th century BC five days had to be added to the solar year14 15, so it is no wonder that the locations of all three lost lands proved elusive.

Thotis scans the lands around Egypt searching for Kelathi and dismisses them one by one – for how, he asked, could such unproductive places have been ‘the fertile pastures and ploughlands well watered from the sky river, where men lived in peaceful content?’16

The sky river

‘Sky river’ sounds like something from ancient Egyptian mythology, but it isn’t. In our own time the term ‘atmospheric river’ or ‘sky river’ was coined in the early 1990s by Reginald Newell and Yong Zhu at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology to describe a system of atmospheric waterways made up of masses of air filled with water vapour, often accompanied by clouds and propelled by the winds.17 Big sky river streams are found over the Indian Ocean, west and south Asia, the West Pacific and the Amazon Basin. The ancient Egyptians undoubtedly knew about the atmospheric river system. ‘Well watered from the sky river’ also suggests a calm climate where humankind lived ‘in peaceful content’, while ‘fertile pastures and ploughlands’ implies a knowledge of animal husbandry and agriculture early on in human existence.

Sky rivers over the Earth
NASA Visible Earth (PD0)

The text continues: ‘In the old books it is said that the Old Motherland was ruled by the Queen of Light18 who was supreme above all. The temple tales tell that the lesser gods came to dwell among mortals, when the Mistress of Brightness ruled in Kelathi; that they were sheltered in temples and priests appointed to minister unto them. … It is said that Kelathi lay within the borders of Kahemu, but could it not have been the land of similar sounding name outward from Pontas beyond Godsland? Is it not said of both that they were engulfed in fire and water?’19

‘Queen of Light … Mistress of Brightness’… We are not told who this ruler was, but Kelathi is referred to elsewhere as ‘mountain-girt’. ‘Temple’ is used here with its original meaning of a house in which the gods lived.


Where was mountain-girt Kelathi’? Try looking it up online and the nearest you’ll find is ‘keluthi’, meaning ‘catfish’, ‘Kalithogai’, a classical poetic work of Sangam literature, and ‘Kalathi Rose Milk shop’ in Mylapore, Tamil Nadu. A haphazard collection – but surprisingly, they do have one thing in common: the words all come from the Tamil culture. The Tamils, who speak the oldest of Dravidian languages, live in southern India and make up most of Tamil Nadu’s population, with a diaspora extending to the West Indies, Madagascar, South Africa and across south-east Asia. Their classical Sangam literature, ‘the poetry of the noble ones’, is the earliest known literature of South India and they carry a firmly-held tradition of having lived on a now-lost continent, Kumari Kandam, in the Indian Ocean.20

It is said’, writes Thotis, ‘that Kelathi lay within the borders of Kahemu, but could it not have been the land of similar sounding name outward from Pontas beyond Godsland?21

This needs a bit of unpicking.

‘Kahemu’ is a skewed version of ‘Kemet’ or ‘Black Land’, an ancient name for Egypt.

‘Pontas’ is the legendary land of Punt located in Somalia on the Horn of Africa


‘Beyond Godsland’. According to the 19th-century historian John Henry Breasted, Ta netjer, the ‘Land of the God’, is another name for Punt22. So ‘outward from Pontas beyond Godsland’ seems to be saying ‘outward from Punt – but far beyond Punt’. If you take a map, imagine you’re in Egypt and look outward beyond Somalia, you see the Indian Ocean. Here, suggests the scribe, was the land with a name sounding like ‘Kelathi’.

How likely is this? Frank Joseph notes that in 2001 hundreds of artifacts were dredged up by oceanographers from the bottom of the Gulf of Cambay off the coast of Gujarat in north-western India. Underwater researchers mapped out a submerged city 5×2 miles wide and 120 feet down, with streets laid out in grid patterns similar to Indus Valley centres at Harappa and Mohenjo Daro. Evidence indicated that the site was overwhelmed by a natural catastrophe circa 6200 BC23.

Kumari Kandam

In his book Underworld, Graham Hancock devotes several chapters to land lost to sea inundation around southern India24. When he discussed the lost land of Kumari Kandam with Dr T.N.P. Haran, Professor of Tamil Studies at the American College in Madurai, Haran said, ‘It was the most ancient continent in the whole world… And it belongs to Tamils’.25 The Tamils equate their lost land with Lemuria, a fabled lost continent proposed by the biologist Ernst Heickel and the theosophist Helen Blavatsky.26

Kumarikandam indicated on a bathymetric map of the Indian Ocean

Putting all this together, could the Indian Ocean have been ‘the first land on Earth wherein men dwelt’? If marine archaeology finds evidence of mountain ranges in this area, then ‘mountain-girt’ Kelathi may indeed be there in the depths.

King Catfish

One last thought on the ‘similar sounding name’ to Kelathi. The Narmer Palette, an Egyptian engraving which shows First Dynasty King Narmer conquering enemies and uniting Upper and Lower Egypt, features some of the earliest hieroglyphics found in Egypt (3200-3000 BC). King Narmer’s hieroglyphic name has always puzzled translators27. Is it possible that Narmer’s ancestors came from Kelathi/Keluthi, and that he used the catfish motif to pun on his name?

Narmer Palette (obverse) (PD0)

Detail showing Keluthi/catfish. Narmer Palette (verso) (PD0)

The End of Kelathi

The Kolbrin has little to add. ‘Is it not said of both [the Old Motherland and Kelathi] that they were engulfed in fire and water?28

The Second Lost Land
Ramukui – Pacific Ocean

The Kolbrin’s scroll of Emod begins:

‘Men talk of the land of Oben29, from whence they came. Not from Oben towards the South came men, for the great land of Ramakui first felt his step. Out by the encircling waters, over at the rim it lay.

‘There were mighty men in those days, and of their land the First Book speaks thus: Their dwelling places were set in the swamplands from whence no mountains rose, in the land of many waters slow-flowing to the sea. In the shallow lakelands, among the mud, out beyond the Great Plain of Reeds. At the place of many flowers bedecking plant and tree. Where trees grew beards and had branches like ropes, which bound them together, for the ground would not support them. There were butterflies like birds and spiders as large as the outstretched arms of a man. The birds of the air and fishes of the waters had hues which dazzled the eyes, they lured men to destruction. Even insects fed on the flesh of men. There were elephants in great numbers, with mighty curved tusks.’30

What are we to make of these mighty men in muddy swamplands bedecked with bearded trees, rainbow flowers and flesh-eating insects? It sounds tropical. This was Ramakui, a place mentioned no less than nine times in the Kolbrin’s Egyptian books: ‘Ramakui of the seven cities’, ‘Land of Copper’, ‘the Land of the Golden Light’, the home of ‘the People of the Light’, and the ‘great land of Ramakui’ – implying that the land was vast.

Land of Copper

Where could this lost Land of Copper have been? To track it down, you have to follow the copper. The island of Cyprus, meaning ‘copper’, can be discounted on the ground that Ra-Mu-Kui was a much, much bigger landmass. It is known that industrial-scale copper mining went on around the turn of the fourth millennium BC’31 in Upper Mid-West America, but Kolbrin scribes write that age-old Ramakui disappeared long before the Egyptian civilisation arose.32

The rocks from which copper is extracted form under large volcanoes. Most of these are located under the Ring of Fire around the Pacific Plate.’33 This belt of volcanoes curves up the western side of America, around south Alaska, down alongside the islands of Japan and the Philippines, then through the islands of Indonesia and around eastern Australia to New Zealand.

Pacific Ring of Fire (PD0)

The Edfu Building Texts

Ramakui, Land of Copper, lay ‘out beyond the Great Plain of Reeds’34. The term ‘Plain of Reeds’ would have been instantly familiar to ancient Egyptians, for when death came, they hoped to live eternally in the paradise of their ancestors known as the Field of Reeds35. This article of faith can be seen inscribed on the walls of the Temple of Edfu, a Ptolemaic temple on the west bank of the Nile not far from Aswan, in writings now known as the Building Texts.

Edfu Temple inner courtyard
Gérard Ducher, (CCBYSA2.5)

Robert Bauval and Graham Hancock point out that scholars regard the Building Texts as ‘the only surviving fragments of a much more ancient, much larger, and much more coherent body of cosmogonical literature – now long lost – that once incorporated a complete “mythical history” of Egypt, of its gods and of the temples built to honour them’.36

One of those scholars was the late Eve A.E. Reymond. Her in-depth study of the Building Texts – The Mythical Origin of the Egyptian Temple37 – describes how ‘a primaeval island emerged from the primaeval waters. This island, in a way and for reasons unknown, disappeared. When it re-emerged and its life was renewed, new land began to form along its margins…’

Reading Eve Reymond’s book is rather like watching shadow puppets through a glass darkly: the story they act out is partially opaque and filled with strange phenomena: ‘the Falcon’ (obviously not a bird)… ‘perch’ (clearly not a bird’s perch)… ‘Island of Trampling’… ‘djed-pillar’… ‘Great Primaeval Mound’… ‘pay-lands’… ‘Earth-Maker’… ‘Sound Eye’ – curiosities that leave the reader baffled. It is possible that when the present Edfu Temple was built (237-57 BC) these texts, transferred time after time from older documents, were so ossified that no-one knew precisely what they meant.

Yet despite the perplexities, a scenario emerges. In The Missing Lands: Uncovering Earth’s Pre-Flood Civilisation, Freddy Silva writes that to read Reymond’s study ‘is to travel to a bygone era of high civilisation, of survival and new hope, to place yourself front and center of a rebuilding project that attempted to revive a destroyed wonderworld. One can almost taste the bittersweet endeavor as the texts describe… the Early Primeval Age of the Gods, in which we find the ancestors of the ancient Egyptians arriving from the Home of the Primeval Ones, a sacred island amidst a great ocean where “the earliest mansions of the gods were founded”.’

These gods were accomplished sailors. ‘When a meteorite and a flood destroyed their island, only a few “companies of gods … at sea survived… Upon sailing back to see what remained of their homeland, all the gods saw were reeds and mud that made the sea impassable… Reluctantly the group wandered the world as the “crew of the Falcon” in search of suitable locations where they might recreate their former home.’38

The Plain or Field of Reeds

Edfu’s Building Texts describe not only a vast ‘field of reeds’ but also a ‘netherworld’. The Kolbrin records ‘swamplands … in the shallow lakelands, among the mud, out beyond the Great Plain of Reeds’; it also tells us something not apparent in the Building Texts: this was a place ‘where trees grew beards and had branches like ropes, which bound them together, for the ground would not support them.’39 In other words, the land was so heavily waterlogged that the settlers had to reclaim it from the sea.

The American anthropologist Frank Hamilton Cushing (1857–1900), famous for his study of Zuni Indian culture, wrote that among this indigenous people’s traditions is the memory of a time when the earth was dark (‘like twilight’) and wet after some kind of global flood: ‘The world had been covered with water. It was damp and unstable. Earthquakes disturbed its surface. Strange beings rose up through it, monsters and animals of prey.40 As upon an island in the middle of a great water, the children of men were led forth… [and] saw that the earth must be dried and hardened, for wherever the foot touched the soil water gathered.’41

Reclaiming land from the drowned Earth

The Building Texts frequently refer to a ‘pillar’ made of reeds grown, split and manipulated to support the weight of the person working in the boggy region. Were the settlers cutting and training a tough species of reed to make a foundation ground of living plants, using a species that flourishes in water? ‘Pillar’ can mean supportive structures made up of multiple columns/shafts fixed together. If ‘reeds’ were a species of water-loving bamboo or yucca-like42 plants split, trained and pressed down to make a platform and soil-binder; if the ‘perch’ was an elevated, secure place where a ‘mighty man’43 could sit and work without sinking; if the ‘Island of Trampling’ was a region in the midst of a sodden planet where the ground had to be literally pressed down to create solid ground – then the primaeval land of the Building Texts starts to make sense as a vast area of heavy marshland which settlers tried to reclaim from their flooded world.

The Building Texts speak of ‘a magical rite’ by which the Shebtiw (sages or wise men44 on Ramukui) did something at the ‘Place-in-which-the-things-of-the-earth-were-filled-with-power’, ‘endowing the substances with power’, ‘magnifying the substances’ and making the water recede from the edges of the existing land. Reymond speculates that they were drying out the muddy area. We are talking drainage on a vast scale here, and mechanical pumps would have been needed.

The ancient Egyptians knew about pumps. The first records of a water screw or screw pump in Egypt were made before the 3rd century BC. The Egyptian screw, used to lift water from the Nile, was made of tubes wound round a cylinder; as the user turned the handle, the unit rotated and water was taken up the spiral tube to the higher level. The screw pump was later introduced from Egypt to Greece and its invention attributed to Archimedes by Diodorus Siculus – but Archimedes himself never claimed credit for it. Where did the Egyptians learn the principle of pumping? Could it have come from the Motherland of Ramukui?

Archimedes-screw two-screw-threads 3D-view animated by Silberwolf, (CCBYSA2.5)

The Land of the Golden Light

With a name like this, it is tempting to think of Ramukui as bathed in perpetual sunlight – but was it? It is clear from the Kolbrin that each time the Earth was hit by a cataclysm, clouds and darkness obscured the sun for long afterwards, often years. After the Earth’s early near-destruction by fire, the Kolbrin states that ‘the sun was not as it had been and a moon had been taken away’; and the Zuni tradition speaks of a time when the earth was dark ‘like twilight’.

The Zuni also tell of ‘an island in the middle of a great water’, and the Building Texts speak of a great mound in the primaeval land; they say that when the land was inundated, a second ‘Great Primaeval Mound’ emerged from the sea and was named ‘the Territory of the Circuit … the Great Place’ and ‘subsequently the meadow grew radiant’. Reymond says it is not known how this radiance came about: the Building Texts merely speak of ‘the power which dispelled the darkness and brought out the light again’… ‘the primaeval water grew radiant’.

‘Territory of the circuit’… ‘power which dispelled the darkness and brought out the light again’… ‘the meadow grew radiant’… ‘the water grew radiant’all this suggests that technology was involved and brings us to the mystery of the djed pillar45. The writer R.T. Rundle Clark offers this explanation of the pillar: ‘The idea of the Djed Column is that it stands firmly upright… When the Djed is upright it implies that life will go on in the world.’46. Could the prototype djed pillar have conveyed energy in the land of Ramukui? Its iconic shape bears more than a passing resemblance to a modern electric pylon.

Djed pillar Amulet. MET DP109385 (PD0)

Maintenance work on electricity pylons, Gaius Cornelius (CCBYSA4.0)

The light that shines without being lit

Over the centuries, authors have written about ever-burning lights: Plutarch, Pausanius, Numa Pompilius, St Augustine and others saw, heard about and recorded the phenomenon47. In the Hebrew flood narrative, Noah’s ark ‘was illuminated by a precious stone, the light of which was more brilliant by night than by day, so enabling Noah to distinguish between day and night’.48 And ‘when the Spaniards first arrived in the Americas they were told of bright cities, lit by stars, hung from the roofs, that never went out… Among the ruined cities of the Maya, many large buildings have been found which are completely windowless but show no sign of blackening by torches, fires, or lamps.’49 The same was said about Egyptian temples such as Abu Simbel.

The Kolbrin records this particular technology arriving in Egypt: ‘From Ramakui of the seven cities, Land of Copper, came the People of the Light and they brought with them, out of their transparent temples, the light that shines, when darkness falls, without being lit.’50

Transparent temples

As well as meaning ‘see-through’, ‘transparent’ has an old meaning of admitting the passage of light through intervening spaces. It sounds as though this is what ‘transparent’ originally meant. Reymond writes, ‘It is said that the temple [on the primaeval island] stood in a vast enclosure surrounding another inner enclosure which was the real temple.’ The Kolbrin says much the same: They raised up temples to the sunlight and worshipped inside many pillars, but within the temples were inner temples where greater things were known.51

James Churchward (more on him later) writes that ‘Great carved stone temples without roofs, sometimes called “transparent” temples, adorned the cities; the rooflessness being to permit the rays of Ra to fall on the heads of those in supplication and prayer, a symbol of acknowledgment by the Deity.’52 Roofless temples are referred to in the Kolbrin’s Celtic Book of Origins. Describing an immigrant people to Britain known as the First Faith (probably druids), a scribe writes, ‘They hold one day in seven holy to the Creating God whom they worship in a transparent temple where the sun falls upon the heads of the worshippers.’53

The Sound Eye/Sacred Eye

Yet another puzzling object. Reymond writes: ‘Both of the early domains were destroyed and … the Sound Eye fell. The function of the Sound Eye is… not clear here… The Sound Eye might… have been the name of the centre of the light which caused the fall of the Sound Eye, with the result that complete darkness fell on the sacred domain of the Creator. In this darkness, the island was found when a new period of creation dawned.’ From this, it sounds as if the Sound Eye was a light source illuminating a vast area.

The Kolbrin’s Book of Manuscripts also mentions an important object called the Sacred Eye. A song of praise to the Great One (Osiris) listing his deeds ends with the line: ‘Who brought the Sacred Eye from the distant land and the Stone of Light made of water, by which men see God, and the firestone which gathers the light of the sun before the Great Shrine?54 Sound Eye – Sacred Eye: they are surely one and the same. And like the djed pillar, the Sound/Sacred Eye also seems to have become ossified into a talisman later on – the Eye of Ra.

The Eye of Ra, Kom Ombo Temple, Egypt
‘Kom Ombo’ by René Hourdry, (CCBY-SA4.0)

The Stone of Light

The ‘Stone of Light made of water, by which men see God’ might have been a see-through crystal object of the kind traditionally used by psychics, similar to the flawless, fabulous crystal sphere of obscure Chinese provenance which entrances visitors to the Penn Museum in Philadelphia USA.

Chinese crystal sphere, Penn Museum by Suraj, (CC BY-SA 3.0)

The Firestone

The firestone referred to in the Kolbrin, ‘which gathers the light of the sun before the Great Shrine’ is also described by the 20th-century ‘sleeping prophet’ and psychic Edgar Cayce during trance sessions he gave on the lost kingdom of Atlantis in 1923 – not the most solid of sources, admittedly, but worth a mention. He described the Firestone/Great Crystal as housed in an oval building lined with non-conducting material, topped by a dome that could be rolled back to expose the crystal to the sun, moon and stars. It was huge, cylindrical in length and cut as a six-sided prism, gathering planetary, Earth and elemental energies and concentrating these at a specific point between the top of the crystal and the bottom of a moveable capstone above it, directing currents to wherever needed. Early on, the energy was used as a spiritual tool by initiates. Later it was employed to rejuvenate the bodies of elderly Atlanteans. Later still, currents of energy were transmitted like radio waves to power crafts and vehicles across the land, through the sky and under the sea at the speed of sound, to transmit the human voice and images over distances (rather like television or the bulletins beamed out in the sky-dome during The Hunger Games), and to direct heat and light to buildings and arenas.55

An afterword in the Kolbrin says, ‘The Stone of Light and the firestone were stolen in the days of disaster and none now knows their resting-place, therefore the land is empty…56 ’When once again the Sacred Things rest in the Old Land from whence they came, the days of disturbance will cease, and once again men will live in peace.’57


The people of Ramukui were brilliant craftsmen, ‘cunning workers in stone and in wood and in ivory. They made instruments from firestone and pottery in many colours… The priests… had circlets of gold and beads of silver, and there was a spiral of blackstones at their waist…’ The Egyptian books say ‘there were stones of saka which men cut for ornaments, stones which became molten for cunning work.’58

What was ‘saka’, and how did they make it molten? Looking at the megalithic walls of Sacsayhuaman in Peru, Graham Hancock has suggested that ‘the technology of a lost civilization might have been up to the challenge of softening rock so that it could be worked like butter. Perhaps heat was involved? An intriguing study by the Institute of Tectonics and Geophysics of the Russian Academy of Sciences, working in cooperation with Peru’s Ministry of Culture, produced evidence that the limestone of the Sacsayhuaman megaliths was at some point subjected to temperature in excess of 900 degrees centigrade and possibly as high as 1100 degrees centigrade.’59 Could stone-melting have been a skill taken to Peru by survivors from Ramukui?

Air travel

The Edfu Building Texts mention ‘the Great Foundation Ground of the Ruler of the Wing’ … ‘the Lord of the Wing arrived in the island’ … ‘the Ka arrived in the capacity of the Flying Ba’. Could these advanced people have used powered flight? The Kolbrin’s Egyptian books contain no references to ancient air travel , but ‘sky chariots’ are mentioned in the Celtic records.60

James Churchward

The maverick writer whose findings link with the Edfu Building Texts and the Kolbrin is the inventor and engineer James Churchward (1851–1936). Wikipedia describes him as an ‘occult’ writer, but this term hardly describes the author of The Lost Continent of Mu: Motherland of Man and three more books on the lost land of Mu – a land which he claimed had once extended over six thousand miles across the Pacific Ocean.

James Churchward (PD0)

‘This continent,’ he wrote, ‘was a vast stretch of rolling country, extending from north of Hawaii down towards the south. A line between Easter Island and the Fijis formed its southern boundary. It was over 5000 miles from east to west, and over 3000 miles from north to south. The continent consisted of three areas of land, divided from each other by narrow channels or seas.’61

James Churchward’s map of Mu (PD0)

Florid and over-confident his style may be; lacking accessible sources, certainly; but Churchward was down-to-earth rather than occult.62 These days his books, much-read in their time, are viewed by scholars with suspicion; it is known that the translation he used of the ancient Troano Manuscript (in the British Museum) was based on a version of the Mayan alphabet now regarded as conceptually flawed.63 However, a few writers are beginning to take James Churchward seriously. One clear-eyed view comes from Freddy Silva. He points out, ‘regardless how much of Churchward’s work is pure research or conjecture, the fact remains that just about every Pacific culture validates the existence of this land’64.

Churchward’s goddaughter Joan T. Griffith has set out the gradually-growing evidence for Churchward’s claims65 while his great-grandson Jack Churchward has made heroic efforts to investigate Churchward’s sources66 on the website, republishing his books with expanded notes and airing an unpublished manuscript67.

The Naacal Tablets

Aside from the Troano Manuscript, James Churchward’s main sources were the Naacal Tablets and the Valley of Mexico tablets. He claimed to have discovered the Naacal tablets while doing relief work during a famine in India alongside the high priest of a college temple: the priest taught Churchward Naacal in order to read the temple’s hidden archive of stone tablets said to have been written by the Naacals in Mu or Burma when they were sent from the motherland to disseminate their knowledge. Reading them, Churchward became convinced that the Naacals’ 50,000-year-old civilisation of Mu had been technologically advanced and that the ancient civilisations of India, Babylon, Persia, Egypt and the Mayas were all remnants of Naacal colonies.

The problem is, no-one has come forward to back up Churchward’s interpretations of the Valley of Mexico tablets, and to this day no-one has seen or heard of the Naacal tablets, though claims have been made.68

Ramukui and Ramakui

What has all this to do with the Kolbrin? A great deal, as it happens, for Churchward’s books refer to the land of Ramakui by name. In The Lost Continent of Mu he writes: ‘According to records, inscriptions and traditions, man’s advent on earth was in the land of Mu and on this account the name “land of Kui” was added to that of Mu’… Many generations before, the people had selected a king and added the prefix Ra to his name. He then became the hieratical head and emperor under the name “Ra Mu”.’69 And in The Children of Mu Churchward says: ‘Ra Mu is to be distinguished from Ra Ma. Ra Mu was the Emperor and Hieratic Head of Mu, The Empire of the Sun. Ra Ma was the first Emperor of the Naga Empire of India.’70

So according to Churchward, Ra-Mu-Kui was the Land of Emperor Ra of Mu. Ra-Ma-Kui was the Land of Emperor Ra of the Naga Empire of India. Taken in isolation, the names are odd and forgettable; but when ‘Ra-ma-kui’ also makes several appearances in the Kolbrin, they deserve more serious attention.71

To this day, the name ‘Kui’ lingers on as the language of the Khond/Kui people in Odisha, eastern India,72 as the name of the Kuy people in south-east Asia73, and gods’ names in Maori mythology74 – all lands where Ramukui survivors might have gone to make a new life after its destruction.

Evidence exists that Ramukui had a colony in India. Valmiki writes in his 5th-century BC epic The Ramayana: ‘The Maya adepts, the Naacals, starting from the land of their birth in the east, as missionaries of religion and learning went first to Burma and there taught the Nagas. From Burma they went to the Deccan in India, whence they carried their religion and learning to Babylonia and to Egypt.’ James Talboys Wheeler’s History of India says, ‘The traditions of the Nagas… point… to an ancient Maya or Naga Empire in the Deccan where the modern city of Nagpoor stands… Tradition says that the Naga Empire commenced more than 35,000 years ago. An empire followed the Naga and lasted 10,000 years… temple records say that this empire ended about 3000 BC, or 5000 years ago.’75 In 1784 the historian W. Robertson wrote, ‘The Brahmins… borrowed their system of cosmogony and acquired the knowledge of astronomy, as well as all other sciences of civilization, from the highly civilized Nagas… It is… for those very remote ages… that their astronomy is most accurate…’76

The Kolbrin records a people travelling from India to Egypt: ‘In olden times… there came the Great One… From the West77, from beyond Mandi, came the Great One arrayed in robes of black linen and wearing a head-dress of red.’78 ‘Mandi’ looks to be a skewed version of ‘Manahadi/Mahanadi’ – an eastern region of ancient India beyond which lay the Deccan.


The Kolbrin speaks of the coming of ‘the Great One’ into Egypt: ‘Osireh came… with seven strangers from a land far East of the Sea of Death79, a land not as old as Egypt but long since dead and forgotten80…’81

Osiris/Osireh is given no fewer than 25 different titles in the Egyptian books; his most frequently-used honorifics are ‘Golden One’, ‘Son of the Sun’, ‘Servant of the Sun’, ‘Lightbearer’ (was this because he brought the Sound Eye/Sacred Eye to Egypt?) and ‘Great One’. At one point he is called ‘Harekta’: ‘In this fertile black land there are those who… tell many tales about the coming of the Sun People and of the land from whence they came… In the days before Harekta came, all was barren and desolate.’82 The name Harakhte/Re-Harakhte also appears in the Building Texts. They refer to ‘the Foundation of the Great Seat of Harakhte’, saying that Harakhte invited the deities to settle in the Mansion known as the Domain-of-the-Gods. The Building Texts also speak of sacred domains being prepared in a secondary land where there had been a battle83 – and Re-Harakhte appears there too. So the name Harakhte/Harekta links Osiris with the land of Ramukui and the secondary land of Ramakui – the Deccan in southern India.

Bronze statuette of Osiris, Penn Museum, Mary Harrsch (CC BY-SA 4.0)

The sleeping beast Poseidon

The High God was worshipped with strange light in places of great silences. They [also] paid homage to the huge sleeping beast in the depths of the sea, believing it to bear the Earth on its back; they believed its stirrings plunged lands to destruction. Some said it burrowed beneath them.’84

This Kolbrin description of Ramukui’s religious belief refers to a ‘huge sleeping beast in the depths of the sea’. It sounds like an early incarnation of Poseidon, god of the sea and earthquakes.

Ramukui’s technology

In Ramakui,’ says the Kolbrin, ‘there was a great city with roads and waterways, and the fields were bounded with walls of stone and channels. In the centre of the land was the great flat-topped Mountain of God. The city had walls of stone and was decorated with stones of red and black, white shells and feathers. There were heavy green stones in the land and stones patterned in green, black and brown… They built walls of black glass and bound them with glass by fire. They used strange fire from the Netherworld which was but slightly separated from them, and foul air from the breath of the damned rose in their midst. They made eye reflectors of glass stone, which cured the ills of men. They purified men with a strange metal and purged them of evil spirits in flowing fire.’85

Molten stone, black glass walls shaped and bound by fire; spectacles and telescopic glass, purification with metal, treatment by fire’ – here was an advanced civilization whose ways would have seemed like magic to the more primitive men living among them.

Freddy Silva writes: ‘… in Central America… the Tula leader Tezcatilpoca is said to have had at his disposal a kind of smoking mirror which enabled him to see the activities of men and gods from afar, much like a cross between closed-circuit television and radar… made from a stone called Tezcat, and from it, other mirrors were manufactured to be used by magicians trained in the art of divination.86… Legends state how these gods – called Atlantes – armed themselves with xiuhcoatl (fire serpents) which emitted burning rays capable of piercing and dismembering a human body.’87 Were these near-magical objects and abilities brought to South America by survivors of Ramukui?

Energy from the Netherworld

Where did Ramukui get its artificial power? According to the Kolbrin, they ‘used strange fire from the Netherworld which was but slightly separated from them, and foul air from the breath of the damned rose in their midst.’Rites which awakened the dead were rife among the carnal-minded and ignorant, while those who remained steadfast on the harder road of spiritual development had fixed their eyes on the light ahead, ignoring the pitfalls at their feet… There were openings in the land from which evil vapours poured forth as a mist…’88

Something strange was undoubtedly going on here, but whether the ‘breath of the damned’ was sulphur or something more sinister, who knows. What we can say for sure is that the people of Ramukui utilised underground (volcanic?) fire in some way.

The Edfu Building Texts say that Amon, one of the Shebtiw (Wise Ones) was responsible for a number of marvels, including the ‘Mound of the Radiant One’ and ‘the Oil-tree’. Could the Oil-tree have been an oil-drilling system with its roots deep underground? Why would settlers choose to build on ground that eventually gives way, then come back to rebuild, when there had been such a bad outcome the first time round? There must have been something there they needed in order to exist.

Oil and gas drill, Mudgineer, Tosaka (CCBY3.0)

Where Edfu, the Kolbrin and the Naacal Tablets meet

The Kolbrin’s Ramukui records and James Churchward’s Naacal Tablet-based descriptions of Mu share so many similarities that they are must be referring to the same place. One speaks of the great Pacific Ocean where now lie only water and sky; the other says ‘out by the encircling waters, over at the rim it lay’. The Kolbrin speaks of ‘Ramakui of the seven cities’ while Churchward writes ‘seven great or principal cities’.89. Both Churchward and the Kolbrin describe vast plains, fertile plains and shallow muddy lakelands of unstable ground; a land with no mountains; a huge area intersected by broad waterways slow-flowing to the sea; jewel-coloured tropical flowers growing on trees with rope-like branches binding them together; great gaudy butterflies, birds and fishes; herds of mastodons and elephants, predatory insects. Both mention precious stones, transparent temples, a first partial destruction by earthquakes and volcanoes, ruins rebuilt, and finally a land which broke up and fell into an abyss of fire. The two accounts finish by saying that men were driven mad, forced into cannibalism and resorted to keeping warm in animal skins.

Both the Edfu Building Texts and the Kolbrin describe a company of godlike men, a vast field of reeds, marshy ground that had to be tamped down, pillars that proved unstable during a terrible destruction, then a second phase of existence, a stone of light, a Sound/Sacred Eye, Sages/Wise Ones, a leader called Harakhte/Harekta; and both make much of the underworld that lay beneath the fragile land.

The End of Ramukui

The Kolbrin records two destructions:

‘The evil grew in greatness, until the land could no longer contain it and had to be purged clean. Therefore, the revenging dragon was called up out of the heavenly abyss [see article with its description of ‘the Destroyer’, a phenomenon also mentioned by Plato90] and it lashed the land with fire and thunder. The whole land was filled with its smoky breath and men choked to death. The land was split apart between the city and the mountain and the sea rolled in upon it, so that the city was destroyed. The valleys of the mountain were filled with dead men and animals and with trees.’91


The pillars of the Netherworld were unstable. In a great night of destruction the land fell into an abyss and was lost forever.’92

Churchward writes:

‘While this great land was… at its zenith, center of the earth’s civilization… rumblings from the bowels of the earth… earthquakes and volcanic outbursts, shook up her southern parts… great… waves rolled in… and many fair cities went down to destruction. The volcanoes belched out their fire, smoke and lava. The country being flat, the lava did not run, but piled up, forming cones which subsequently became igneous rocks, and are to be seen today on some of the southern islands. Eventually the volcanic workings … died out… The ruined cities were rebuilt and trade and commerce … resumed.

‘Many generations after… Mu again became the victim of earthquakes. The whole continent heaved and rolled… Temples and palaces came crashing to the ground… the fires… underneath burst forth, piercing the clouds in… flames three miles in diameter… met by lightning shafts… A thick black pall of smoke overshadowed the land… During the night Mu was torn… to pieces. With thunderous roarings the doomed land sank. Down, down, down, she went, into… a tank of fire… As the broken land fell into that great abyss of fire, flames shot up around and enveloped her… From all sides the huge waves came rolling in… where once was the center of the land… they seethed and boiled.

‘Points of land here and there remained above water… the waters rested… and these waters are the Pacific Ocean.‘93

The Third Lost Land
Poseida, Atlantis empire – Aegean Sea

The story of Atlantis

The Encyclopaedia Britannica sums up what is known: ‘Atlantis… a legendary island in the Atlantic Ocean, lying west of the Strait of Gibraltar. The principal sources for the legend are two of Plato’s dialogues, Timaeus and Critias… Plato describes how Egyptian priests, in conversation with the Athenian lawgiver Solon, described Atlantis as an island larger than Asia Minor and Libya combined, and situated just beyond the Pillars of Hercules (the Strait of Gibraltar). About 9,000 years before the birth of Solon [8,500 BC]… Atlantis was a rich island whose powerful princes conquered many of the lands of the Mediterranean until they were finally defeated by the Athenians… The Atlantians eventually became wicked… and their island was swallowed up by the sea as a result of earthquakes.’94

Wikipedia waxes metaphorical about Atlantis, describing it as ‘a fictional island mentioned in an allegory on the hubris of nations…where it represents the antagonist naval power that besieges “Ancient Athens”, the pseudo-historic embodiment of Plato’s ideal state in The Republic.’95 National Geographic reinforces this: ‘The cataclysmic destruction of the ancient civilization of Atlantis—is almost certainly false.’96

The empire of Atlantis according to Plato

The Athenian philosopher Plato (c.428-347 BC) himself writes: ‘Now in this island of Atlantis there was a great and wonderful empire which had rule over the whole island and several others, and over parts of the continent [America?], and… subjected the parts of Libya [Africa] within the columns of Heracles as far as Egypt, and of Europe as far as Tyrrhenia [in Italy]… the men of Atlantis… endeavoured to subdue… the whole of the region within the straits; and then [Greece]… defeated… the invaders… and generously liberated all the rest of us who dwell within the pillars.’97 In other words, the Atlantis empire once sprawled over part of America and a vast swathe of the Mediterranean with designs on the remainder, before being defeated by the Greeks.

Plato, marble copy of portrait made by Silanion c. 370 BC for the Academia in Athens. From the sacred area in Largo Argentina. (PD0)

But afterwards, writes Plato, ‘there occurred violent earthquakes and floods; and in a single day and night of misfortune all your warlike men [the Greek army] in a body sank into the earth, and the island of Atlantis in like manner disappeared in the depths of the sea. For which reason the sea in those parts is impassable and impenetrable, because there is a shoal of mud in the way; and this was caused by the subsidence of the island.’98


More information comes a generation later from Proclus Lycius (412–485 AD), one of the last great Greek Neoplatonist philosophers of his age, who studied in Alexandria, then Athens until pagan teaching was outlawed by the Emperor Justinian in 529 BC. Commenting on Plato’s Timaeus, he writes:

‘That an island of such nature and size once existed is evident from what is said by certain authors who investigated the things around the outer sea. For according to them, there were seven islands in that sea in their time, sacred to Persephone, and also three others of enormous size, one of which was sacred to Hades, another to Ammon, and another one between them to Poseidon, the extent of which was a thousand stadia99 [200 kilometres]; and the inhabitants of it—they add—preserved the remembrance from their ancestors of the immeasurably large island of Atlantis which had really existed there and which for many ages had reigned over all islands in the Atlantic sea and which itself had like-wise been sacred to Poseidon. Now, these things Marcellus has written in his Aethiopica [work now lost].100

This tally of islands is ambiguous. It is not absolutely clear from the words ‘and also three others of enormous size’ that these others were situated in the outer sea along with the seven islands sacred to Persephone. Also, Proclus does not mention the two islands sacred to Poseidon (Atlantis and the 200-kilometre island) together, as he does the Persephone islands. What is clear, however, is that the 200-kilometre island sacred to Poseidon existed long after Atlantis had been destroyed. So the question hovering over Proclus’ commentary is: were the 200-kilometre island and the two other islands of Pluto and Ammon together with the other islands in the Atlantic Ocean, or could they have been somewhere else?

Where once broad sea-girt Posidma reigned

What has this to do with the Kolbrin? The Book of the Sons of Fire records a voyage through the Mediterranean from Tyre made by the metalworking Sons of Fire. They went ‘by way of Hawnibo and Mesilonas, where there are many temples. The ships made one harvest towards the Land of Trees, where the great river flows to the West. Their leader, Hoskiah, has left his sons ‘in Tyre, that they might receive instruction in the household of Lokus’.

The record continues: ‘The chief among the men of the sea was skilled in the notched stick called “thumb of the night”’, which guided him across the widths of the sea. We brought up against Keftor, where Nebam departed, for they were troublesome. Men of Melkat came who had been wrecked, and we took a score who were men of valour. We passed many lands by the sea, where once broad sea-girt Posidma reigned, before blown apart by underworld fires. By the lands of Hogburim, we went over the wide sea to the gate of Athiesan and beyond it across the sea of Tapuim.’101

Posidma and the eastern Mediterranean were clearly significant to these voyagers. Ignatius Donnelly102 quotes from John D. Baldwin’s Pre-historic Nations, ‘There was a time when Berut or Berytus, with its Poseidon and Cabiri worship, was the great city, and the principal starting-point for commercial and colonial enterprise… Poseidon-worship seems to have been a peculiarity of all the colonies previous to the time of Sidon.’103

The voyage can be roughly dated because it says later that as they sail northward, the Sons of Fire encounter ships of armed ‘Ilopinos’ – men of Ilium/Troy. The unnamed commander of the Trojans is ‘a warrior who, while hunting, had slain his own father and so had to flee his own land’.104 This can be none other than Brutus, the great-grandson of Aeneas, one of twenty warriors who join the Sons of Fire and sail to Britain. Troy is thought to have fallen 1260–1180 BC so this voyage would have taken place four generations later: c.1000 BC.

The voyage seems to have been difficult because the Sons of Fire needed navigational help and came across wrecked sailors who were taken aboard. There is a sense of disturbance. Elsewhere the text says they were guided by ‘Red men’ – experienced Phoenician sailors.105

The text is full of unfamiliar names, but some can be identified:

‘Hawnibo’, a skewed form of ‘Haunebu’ (it also appears in the Kolbrin as ‘Henbua’), is a ‘very ancient name of inhabitants of the Mediterranean, later the Ionians’106 Ionia was in the centre of what is now Turkey’s western coast, extending north-south for 100 miles/160 km including nearby islands. Some scholars identify the Haunebu with the ‘Sea People’ who wreaked havoc on the Mediterranean c.1200–900 BC107. Ancient Egyptian references to Haunebu or ‘Nine Bows’ (enemies of Egypt) first appeared during the 18th Dynasty.

‘Keftor’ is a skewed form of ‘Keftu’/’Keftiu’, the ancient Egyptian name for Crete.108 (Capthor is its Old Testament name.)

‘Nebam’ refers to the Nebu, defined as ‘the “lords of the north” – inhabitants of the northern sea-coast and islands of the Mediterranean, Greeks’.109

‘Melqart’ was the Phoenician god of Tyre110; the wrecked men might have been Tyrians.

‘Hog Bur’ is a Turkish family name recorded in 18th-century Magnesia, an Ionian region of the Turkish coast; this might once have been the ‘lands of Hogburim’.111

‘The gate of Athiesan’ might have been the Acharnian, the Dipylon or the Sacred Gate – one of the ancient entrances to the city of Athens.112

‘Tapuim’. ‘Tapu’ is an ancient Turkish and Polynesian word meaning sacred or forbidden. Was this sea ‘forbidden’ because it was difficult to navigate, impassable – perhaps full of mud?

But the name which really leaps out is ‘Posidma’. ‘Broad sea-girt Posidma’ is clearly a place and sounds like a skewed version of ‘Poseida’. Elsewhere in the Kolbrin’s Egyptian books ‘Zaidor’ is mentioned three times and sounds like a skewed, orally transmitted version of ‘Poseida’: Poseida-Zaidor.

A land in the Aegean Sea

The Kolbrin has another earlier reference to the part of the Mediterranean described by the later Sons of Fire: ‘This was the land out in the green waters where the sun sets beyond Keftu [Crete], near the lands of the Henbua [Ionia, west coast of Turkey, Aegean island-dwellers].”113

This indicates a location somewhere in the Aegean Sea/Sea of Crete. It could be argued that ‘where the sun sets beyond Keftu’ is much further west, but that would place it far away from ‘the lands of the Henbua’. The other topographical pointers are when the Sons of Fire sail past ‘many lands by the sea’, ‘by the lands of Hogburim’ (Ionia) to ‘the gate of Athiesan’ (Athens). Ionia and Athens were located to the west and east of the Aegean Sea.

So, says the Kolbrin, an area in the Aegean was where once ‘broad sea-girt Poseida’ reigned before being ‘blown apart by underworld fires’; and the once-broad bulk of Poseida is contrasted with the ‘many lands by the sea’ which the seafarers are passing.

Bathymetric/Topographical map of the Aegean area indicating Athens and Ionia during an Ionian revolt c.500 BC.
‘Ionian Revolt Campaign Map’ by Eric Gaba (CC BY-SA 3.0)

The End of Poseida

Below is Thotis’ record of the destruction of Poseida in the Kolbrin’s Egyptian books, which would have been copied from earlier records.

‘This was the aspect of the disaster, as written in the Book of Beginnings: “There were openings in the land from which evil vapours poured forth as a mist; descending upon the people like a mantle it spread out and covered the whole face of the land. The tongues of the people were stopped and they became dumb with fear. The ground trembled beneath them and great tongues of flame shot up. The whole land heaved and rocked like an ocean wave. As it rose and fell, groaned and shook, the fires which strove beneath burst forth, to be met with shafts of lightning striking down from Heaven.

‘A thick black cloud of smoke filled the land and men were smothered in dust. As the setting sun rested on the horizon it could be but dimly seen beneath the cloud as a fiery red ball. When it had gone a grey, dense darkness prevailed, lit only by great sheets of lightning. The waters broke heavily over the land, sweeping it clean. The plains and cities were covered and new shores formed around the mountains. The waters mounted up until all that moved and lived was covered, the land was submerged. Mountain tops alone remained above the rush of uplifted torrent. Whirlwinds blew and brought cold winds which cleared away the dust and debris. Mudbanks were formed and a mountain mouth remained open to spew forth vile vapours. During one long awful night the doomed land was torn apart, and southward sank out of sight forever.

‘A wise man has written, “This was not mountain-girt Kelathi, or age-old Ramakui. This was the land out in the green waters where the sun sets beyond Keftu, near the lands of the Henbua.”’114

The Aegean Sea from the Temple of Poseidon at Cape Sounion (PD0)

As Thotis points out, anyone would be forgiven for thinking this account refers to the destruction of Kelathi or Ramakui. With the hindsight of Plato, it might refer to Atlantis. But it does not: it refers to Poseida.

What was this land ‘where once broad sea-girt Posidma reigned’? The only other references to Poseida/Poseidia appear in the trance sessions of Edgar Cayce. When asked to describe one of the large cities of Atlantis at the height of its prosperity, Cayce named Poseida/Poseidia and spoke of it as a hill city overlooking the waters of Parfa with self-purifying pools, ducts and canals, tiers of buildings, temples divided into outer and inner courts, pillars of semi-precious stones and sacred fires.

The Cyclades Plateau

Could there be a large submerged landmass in the Aegean Sea where the Kolbrin indicates? Indeed there is, and it has been proposed by Christos A. Djonis as a contender for the lost land of Atlantis. He points out that if you lower the Mediterranean Sea by 400 feet – the level it would have been during the tenth millennium BC before geological mayhem transformed the Mediterranean – many islands merge, including the Cyclades Islands which are connected by a flat terrain known today as the Cyclades Plateau. This submerged plateau once made up the body of a substantial island with the present-day Cyclades islands forming rows of mountains. Djonis compares this now-submerged island of the tenth millennium BC – its dimensions, topography, geology, volcanoes, flora and fauna (including dwarf elephants), archaeological Neolithic remnants and DNA evidence – with Plato’s description of Atlantis, and finds a match – see his books Uchronia: Atlantis Revealed (Page Publishing Inc. 2014), Atlantis: the find of a lifetime (publication 2021) and Youtube video

Christos A. Djonis’ map of the Cycladean Plateau landmass using Plato’s description. Courtesy C.A. Djonis. See also Uchronia: Atlantis Revealed (Page Publishing Inc. 2014), Atlantis: the find of a lifetime (publication 2021) and Youtube video


Slope distribution (in degrees) of the Cyclades Plateau based on bathymetric data. Dotted line represents the paleo-shoreline of 20,000 BC.

By Plato’s time (c.428-c.347 BC) this region would have been so transformed by earthquakes, sea inundation and time itself that Plato may well have been referring to the Aegean islands when he wrote, ‘In comparison of what then was, there are remaining in small islands only the bones of the wasted body … the mere skeleton of the country being left.’115

Last gasp of the Atlantis empire?

Graham Hancock writes that during the long span of the Ice Age meltdown, in addition to countless episodes of smaller-scale flooding, three global superfloods have been dated: 13,000-12,000 BC, 10,000-9,000 BC and 6000-5000 BC.116 Paleogeographic reconstructions of the Cyclades Plateau between 20,000 BC and 2000 BC (below) indicate particularly dramatic changes to the Aegean between 14,000 and 6,000 BC. 117

Paleogeographic reconstruction of Cyclades Plateau during: (A) 20,000 BC (B) 18,000 BC (C) 14,000 BC (D) 12,000 (source)


Paleogeographic reconstruction of Cyclades Plateau during: (E) 10,000 BC (F) 8,000 BC (G) 6,000 BC and (H) 2,000 BC (source)

The questions start to mount

  • Was Poseida Atlantis? If so, then it was not where Plato said it was. Bearing in mind how much the Kolbrin scribes knew about the other big civilisations lost in the distant past (they were writing roughly 1300-1200 BC118, hundreds of years before Plato), it seems odd that they wouldn’t have known about a giant landmass like Atlantis. So Poseida might have been the original name of Atlantis. However, it seems more likely that the great island was strategically located in the Atlantic Ocean (see Paul Wallis’ video ‘The Lost City of Atlantis 2020’119, attracting traders from all parts of the globe, as Plato describes. Egyptian ships would have gone there to find luxuries such as tobacco and cocaine from south of the vast continent beyond (later called America), taking them back to satisfy the tastes of pharaohs and rich Egyptians.120
  • Were the landmass of Poseida and the 200-km island described by Proclus one and the same? If they were, and the inhabitants of Poseida ‘preserved the remembrance from their ancestors of Atlantis which for many ages had reigned over all islands in the Atlantic sea’, then Plato’s destruction date of 9,600 BC, passed down to him from his ancestor Solon’s informant the priest Solchis of Sais, was wrong. Paleogeographic reconstructions of the Cyclades Plateau combined with what Proclus says indicate that Atlantis would have been destroyed many generations before Poseida vanished.
  • Was ‘Poseida/Poseidia’ the name not only of Atlantis’s capital city but also of a later colony in the Aegean? Could this explain how memories became confused? Edgar Cayce says in his own strange way that, ‘In a period as remote as the destructive influences in that land called Atlantis, or in Poseidia, there is oft a confusion in the interpretations of the records – as to whether Poseidia was the land or Atlantis was the land.’121

What is certain, is that the Kolbrin refers twice to a big landmass in the Aegean Sea between present-day Greece and Turkey where the Cyclades Plateau now lies submerged: this was ‘where once broad, sea-girt Posidma reigned’ and it was destroyed in a day and a night. Until such time as divers excavate this plateau, we must make do with the knowledge that earthquakes and sea inundation transformed the Mediterranean, ushering in a dark age of several thousand years before civilisation began again.122

Wisdom came from Zaidor

What do we know about the people from Poseida/Zaidor? The Kolbrin says that those ‘who came with Nadhi [a Sanscrit name meaning ‘bent plant stalk’ or ‘river’] were wise in the ways of the seasons and in the wisdom of the stars. They read the Book of Heaven with understanding… They covered their dead with potter’s clay and hardened it, for it was not their custom to place their dead in boxes.’123 ‘We [the Egyptians] dwell in a land of three peoples, but those who came from Ramakui and Zaidor were fewer in numbers. It was the men of Zaidor who built the Great Guardian whichever watches, looking towards the awakening place of God. The day He comes not its voice will be heard.’124

I have identified this ‘Great Guardian’ as the Sphinx (see article; the text indicates that the Sphinx was built by none other than the men from Poseida/Zaidor.


This mysterious metal recorded by Plato is translated in the Loeb edition of the Critias as ‘mountain copper’125, so Ramukui’s copper might have been orichalcum. Plato writes that the entire circuit of the outermost wall of the city in Atlantis was covered with a coating of brass, the circuit of the next wall with tin, and the third, encompassing the citadel, ‘flashed with the red light of orichalcum.’

The Kolbrin suggests how this now-unknown metal might have been used later in Egypt: ‘Now the Great House of the Hidden Places [which I identify in as the present-day Sphinx Temple] stands in Kahemu. It is built to last forever and stands up strongly towards Heaven, high above the heads of men… and above it is topped with copper. It is not the copper of men, but the copper of God.’126

In 2015 a group of divers exploring a 2,600-year-old shipwreck off the coast of Sicily discovered ingots of an unknown metal which some speculate could be orichalcum.127

Living dangerously

James Churchward writes that beneath the land of Ramukui there once lay an underground gas belt, one of several on the planet.128 Reymond states that the people of the primaeval island possessed a wonder called ‘the Oil-tree’. The Kolbrin says,‘They used strange fire from the Netherworld which was but slightly separated from them, and foul air from the breath of the damned rose in their midst.’129 Even Edgar Cayce speaks of ‘explosives that might be carried about… [leading to] destructive forces…’130

Did these advanced peoples knowingly build their civilizations on top of oil/gas sources in order to provide the power they needed? This would explain the suggestions of technological tinkering on Ramukui and Atlantis. Freddy Silva takes it further: ‘The central argument in many texts and myths maintains that the events which shook the Earth 11,000 years ago resulted from the abuse of power and the careless sharing of inappropriate technology with comparatively immature humans.’131

The mortal admixture

These lost civilisations included an advanced people known as ‘gods’ and more primitive ‘mortal creatures’ – in other words, people at different levels of civilisation. Plato writes: ‘In the days of old the gods had the whole earth distributed among them by allotment… They… peopled their own districts; and when they had peopled them they tended us, their nurselings and possessions, as shepherds tend their flocks, excepting only that they did not use blows or bodily force, as shepherds do, but governed us like pilots from the stern of the vessel, which is an easy way of guiding animals, holding our souls by the rudder of persuasion according to their own pleasure; thus did they guide all mortal creatures.’132

But ‘when the divine portion began to fade away, and became diluted too often and too much with the mortal admixture, and the human nature got the upper hand, they [human beings] then, being unable to bear their fortune, behaved unseemly, and… grew visibly debased… full of avarice and unrighteous power.’133 In other words, the ‘divine’ element in human beings dwindled as the ‘mortal admixture’ increased. This mortal admixture – what results when an ingredient is added to an existing mixture – almost certainly refers to a change in human DNA; Sumerian and Kolbrin texts say that our DNA was originally a balanced mix of advanced and primitive genes, which gradually changed as human beings interbred with more primitive hominids – see As time went on and human beings became more primitive and aggressive, they pursued wealth for its own sake, developed destructive technology and adopted superstitious beliefs. ‘False priesthoods flourished,’ says the Kolbrin. ‘They pandered to the carnal desires of the undeveloped and exploited the weaknesses of the ignorant. Their iniquity built up a vast weight of evil in the Netherworld, which projected itself into the material of Earth, so that the powers which upheld it became unstable. This caused all the southern part of the Old Land to sink down into heaving waters.’134 Kolbrin records also say, “The disaster was brought about through the ascendance of evil. Rites which awakened the dead were rife among the carnal-minded and ignorant.135

Elsewhere the Egyptian books tell how Ramukui deteriorated (text slightly abridged):

In the Land of Copper… the Land of The Golden Light, one man in twelve was a priest… priestesses… took care of them and watched over the sacred elements within the temples. The headdresses of the priests were red and they wore feathers and cloaks of black. They had circlets of gold and beads of silver, and there was a spiral of blackstones at their waist.

There was war between those who lived within the city and those who lived beyond its limits. Those… within the city grew all kinds of things and clothed themselves with the labour of their hands. Those who lived outside… were hairy hunters clad in the skin of wild animals.

Outside the city… was a holy mountain and priests lived within it. The men of the city brought them herbs and fruit with bread and wine. The men… not of the city brought them sheep and goats and beasts of the chase.

The men of the city loved wealth… and were less generous than those who gained their food by strength and hunting… and caused the priests to look upon them less kindly. When the great day of the sun came and the High Priest gave his blessing of fruitfulness, he withheld it from the city dwellers and gave it only to the hunters and herdsmen. That night, when those who had received the blessings were rejoicing… the city dwellers fell upon them and slew many. This was the cause of a great war in which many men died.

Men… also ravaged women and children. The evil grew in greatness, until the land could no longer contain it and had to be purged clean. Therefore, the revenging dragon was called up out of the heavenly abyss [this was the Destroyer – see ] and it lashed the land with fire and thunder. The whole land was filled with its smoky breath and men choked to death. The land was split apart between the city and the mountain and the sea rolled in upon it, so that the city was destroyed. The valleys of the mountain were filled with dead men and animals and with trees.136


Unanswerable questions muddy our understanding of these distant times. Was Ramukui a legacy of Kelathi? Was Atlantis a legacy of Ramukui? Was Poseida a legacy of Atlantis? Did they overlap, or did they exist simultaneously? Among the lands of the Atlantis empire, Proclus names an island sacred to Ammon: could this island have commemorated Amon, the Shebtiw mastermind of power on Ramukui mentioned in the Building Texts?

The Kolbrin’s Egyptian Books, the Edfu Building Texts, Plato, Proclus, James Churchward’s Naacal tablets, Edgar Cayce’s utterances and countless myths weave together an astonishing saga: of Kelathi in the Indian Ocean, ringed by mountains and ruled by a glittering Queen of Light whose priests served the lesser gods in great temples before the land vanished; of age-old Ramukui which shone out in the post-cataclysmic dusk of the Pacific, partially sank, was rebuilt, and disappeared into a fiery abyss; and of Poseida in the Aegean Sea, land of the wise men, obliterated by earthquakes, fire and flood. These, say the Kolbrin, were the lost Motherlands whose combined legacy137 was to transform the land of Egypt into one of the greatest civilisations of all time.

The Scottish Field of Reeds

The name ‘Glasgow’ has always been a mystery. In 1883, Dr William George Black suggested to the Glasgow Archaeological Society that the first syllable Glas might mean ‘grey-green’ in Gaelic, while ‘gow’ or ‘gu’ could be a phonetic rendering of achadh, a Gaelic word meaning field. So: ‘Field of Grey-Green’.

Then in 1939, the archaeologist Ludovic Maclellan Mann published the pamphlet Earliest Glasgow: A Temple of the Moon138, investigating an area of Glasgow called ‘Temple’ – another name with source unknown.

The Kolbrin’s Book of the Sons of Fire records how the persecuted Egyptian followers of the Old Religion went into exile taking with them a copy of the Great Book of Egypt. They fled to the ‘twin cities’ (Tyre and Sidon), and their descendants, metalworkers called the Sons of Fire, made their way north to Britain guided by Phoenician traders, eventually left some of their convoy in Devon (Brutus) and Cornwall (Korin/Corineus) and sailed to a place populated by ‘Wictas’ (Picts?), where a brave barbarian leader called Cluth was killed fighting at a river crossing, afterwards named ‘Cluthradrodwin’. (‘Cluth’ is an ancient form of ‘Clyde’.) The newcomers rebuilt Cluth’s fortress ‘on high ground rising out of the waters, surrounded by a high wall of logs… Men came in ships, with cloth and pottery, with things of metal and shells and beads. The barbarians gave much for cloth dyed scarlet, for their tree blue is not fast in cloth. Scarlet is made nowhere except in the land of the Sons of Fire, where a white fish turns scarlet under the warmth of the sun.’139

But the new trading centre proved too worldly for the followers of the Old Religion; they moved on ‘by the waters of Glaith not far distant where we may dwell by ourselves’. They called it ‘the Valley of Reeds’, and they built ‘a temple within the city raised up on logs. Beside it was the Place of Instruction and just before it was the Place of Exchanging’. It was ‘a sanctuary and a centre for those who seek the light. In its keeping are the records [Egypt’s Sacred Records] of the Children of Light who are the Children of the Written Word.’140

Unlikely as it seems, this record may have some foundation. In ancient times Strathclyde was inhabited, not by Gaelic-speaking Picts, but by a Brythonic-speaking tribe141 whose name, Damnonii, is remarkably similar to that of the Dumnonii of Devon and Cornwall.

Was the Clyde an ancient valley of reeds? It seems so. Even today… ‘the extensive mudflats… of the Clyde estuary are important sites for wintering and migratory birds… Coastal grasslands and saltmarshes occur… along both tidal banks to the west of Glasgow… near Dumbarton and about the Erskine Bridge.’142

Dumbarton Castle and Rock from across the River Clyde
Dave Hitchborne, CC BY-SA 2.0

Back to the name ‘Glasgow’. Glas meaning ‘grey-green’ is not the only contender for the ‘Glas’ part of Glas-gow; there is also a Gaelic word gleus, meaning ‘reed’ – used to make the traditional reed pipe which originated in ancient Egypt and is still played today. An alternate origin for the name Glasgow might be gleus-gow/gu – ‘Field of Reeds’ – the ancient Egyptian Paradise – a name inherited from the early immigrants to that area. If so, then the ripples of Glasgow stretch far, far back to age-old Ramukui and the motherlands of Egypt.

Pair of reed pipes, Fayum, Egypt, Islamic Period No. UC7945, courtesy of Petrie Museum, University College London

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Kolbrin text courtesy of The Culdian Trust.


1 Kolbrin, Manuscripts 1:7

2 Kolbrin, Manuscripts 1:12

3 Kolbrin, Manuscripts 31:12

4 Ibid.

5 Ibid.

6 An ancient term referring to the enemies of Ancient Egypt, later identified with the Haunebu or islanders of the Aegean

7 Kolbrin, Manuscripts 31:6 7

8 Kolbrin, Manuscripts 31:5

9 Herodotus, The Persian Wars, Book II:142, Loeb Classical Library

11 Chorographia 1:59

12 Kolbrin, Manuscripts 33:11

13 Kolbrin, Scrolls 33:3

14 Then came the year of the great flood of waters, though some say it was before these days, when the salt seas rose upon the East and covered the land. Men were warned beforehand by the shortening of the days of the years, and the five days now added to the days of the year are days of sorrow for the alteration of things. Kolbrin Manuscripts 34, The Annexed Scroll 2.

15 For an overall view of this period of time, see Freddy Silva’s The Missing Lands: uncovering Earth’s pre-Flood civilization (www,, 2019) pp 260-261

16 Kolbrin, Manuscripts 31:6

18 The earliest Queen of Light was Anunitu, an Akkadian light goddess. The Sumerian goddess Inanna in her aspect as Anunītu was associated with the eastern fish of the last of the zodiacal constellations, Pisces.

19 Kolbrin, Manuscripts 31:7

20 See The Lost Land of Lemuria: Fabulous Geographies, Catastrophic Histories, Sumathi Ramaswamy (University of California Press, 2004)

21 Kolbrin, Manuscripts 31:7

22 Ancient Records of Egypt: Historical Documents from the Earliest Times to the Persian Conquest, p.433, vol.1

23 Before Atlantis: 20 million years of human and pre-human cultures, Frank Joseph (Bear & Co., 2013)

24 Underworld, Graham Hancock (Michael Joseph, 2002), chapters on India (1) and (2)

25 Ibid., p.258


27 What a King Is This: Narmer and the Concept of the Ruler’, Toby A. H. Wilkinson

The Journal of Egyptian Archaeology, Vol. 86 (2000), pp. 23-32, Sage Publications Ltd

28 Kolbrin, Manuscripts 31:8

29 The Kolbrin’s Celtic Book of Origins has a lot to say about the Oben in Britain. The Oben might have been the earliest indigenous people. Kolbrin, Book of Origins 2: 2-22

30 Kolbrin, Manuscripts 1:6-21, , Scroll of Thotis

31 Before Atlantis: 20 million years of human and pre-human cultures, Frank Joseph (Bear and Company. 2013)

32 See ‘Guide to the Kolbrin’,


34 Kolbrin, Manuscripts 1:7

36 Keeper of Genesis: A Quest for the Hidden Legacy of Mankind, Robert Bauval and Graham Hancock (William Heinemann Ltd, 1996)

37 The Mythical Origin of the Egyptian Temple. E.A.E. Reymond (Manchester University Press, 1969). Reymond’s study is currently the nearest we have to an English translation. Much of the scholarship on Ptolemaic inscriptions such as these is in French or German, including the standard grammar (Einführung ins Ptolemäische: Eine Grammatik mit Zeichenliste und Übungsstücken).

38 The Missing Lands: Uncovering Earth’s Pre-flood Civilization, Freddy Silva (, 2019), p.268. For a more in-depth summary of Eve Reymond’s study, see Gods of Eden: Egypt’s Lost Legacy and the Genesis of Civilisation, Andrew Collins (Headline Book Publishing, 1998), pages 173-8, ‘Island of the Gods’ for a precis of Reymond’s book.

39 Kolbrin, Manuscripts 1:7

40 The Kolbrin also says there have been monsters on Earth at the same time as men.

41 Zuñi Fetiches, Frank Hamilton Cushing

42 Cushing goes on to say that ‘men were black then’ (the Kolbrin’s Book of Gleanings says ‘Once all men were dark and hairy’, Gleanings 1:2), ‘like the caves they came from, and naked, save for a covering at the loins of rush, like yucca fiber, and sandals of the same.’

43 ‘Mighty men’ are referred to elsewhere in the Kolbrin as the hybrid offspring of Children of God and Children of Men. They may well have been physically much bigger than average human beings.

44 A long-abandoned Temple of the Seven Enlightened Ones’ – probably these sages – is mentioned several times in the Kolblrin’s Hurmanetar/Gilgamesh story in the Book of Gleanings. It had been built ‘in the days of Sisuda’ (Ziusudra) and the Kolbrin says that ’the Great Key, the Key of Life’, was given here into the keeping of Hurmanetar/Gilgamesh.

46 Myth and Symbol in Ancient Egypt, Robert Thomas Rundle Clark (Thames and Hudson, 1978)


48 The Legends of the Jews, Louis Ginsberg, (The Jewish Publication society of America, Philadelphia, 1988) Vol 1, page 162

49 Colony: Earth, Richard Mooney (Souvenir Press, 1974).

50 Kolbrin, Scrolls 33:3

51 Kolbrin, Sons of Fire 13:4

52 The Lost Continent of Mu, James Churchward (Neville Spearman, 1961)

53 Kolbrin, Origins 8:6

54 Kolbrin, Manuscripts 1:31

55 Atlantis, Edgar Cayce (A.R.E. Press, Virginia Beach, Virginia, 2009)

56 Kolbrin, Manuscripts 1:34

57 Kolbrin, Manuscripts 31:15

58 Kolbrin, Manuscripts 1:17

59 Magicians of the Gods, Graham Hancock (Coronet, 2015)

60 Mentions of air travel appear in the Kolbrin’s Celtic Books: The son of Gatuma was Gatumugna the Skyfighter, whose son was Tuwait, the Townfounder and Metalmaster, who married Amerith, the Skychief’s daughter. Their sons were Nodinos the first earthling, and Magilmish the Wanderer, in whose days the sky chariots came’. It is told how, in the glowering dawntime of the world, Amerith flew on swift wings of the spirit from her kingdom in the West to consult with Tuwait the Eastern Father, son of Gatumugna.’

61 The Lost Continent of Mu: Motherland of Man, James Churchward

62 Born in England, James Churchward (1851-1936) worked as a tea planter in Sri Lanka and travelled widely. He patented NCV Steel, armour plating to protect ships at war and other steel alloys. In the 1890s he went to the US where he met Augustus Le Plongeon and his wife Alice Dixon, the first people to systematically excavate and photograph the Maya sites of Chichén Itzá and Uxmal and to interpret Maya culture. In 1914 Churchward retired to Lakeville, Connecticut and in 1936 he published The Lost Continent of Mu: Motherland of Man, which he claimed proved the existence of a lost continent called Mu in the Pacific Ocean.

63 The alphabet was formulated by Bishop Diego De Landa (1524–79). It is now known from extant Mayan texts that they are not formed with alphabets but are logosyllabic. Landa’s alphabet translation was used in turn by the Mesoamerican historian Abbé Charles-Étienne Brasseur de Bourbourg (1814–74) and by Churchward’s friend Augustus Le Plongeon. But despite its inaccuracies, Landa’s research proved crucial to the mid-20th century breakthrough in deciphering the Maya script, starting with the work of the Soviet epigrapher and Mayanist Yuri Knorozov in the early 1950s.

64 The Missing Lands: Uncovering Earth’s Pre-Flood Civlisation, Freddy Silva (, 2019)

67 The Lost Continent of Mu: the Motherland of Men, The Children of Mu, The Sacred Symbols of Mu, The Cosmic Forces of Mu. His great-grandson Jack Churchward has also published his manuscript Copies of Stone Tablets found by William Niven at Santiago Ahuizoctla Near Mexico City (1927) as The Stone Tablets of Mu as well as an edition of The Lost Continent of Mu with expanded notes – both published by Ozark Mountain Publishing.

69 The Lost Continent of Mu, James Churchward (Neville Spearman, 1961) page 49. Churchward uses as a reference the Troano Manuscript and ‘inscriptions’ which he doesn’t detail.

70 The Children of Mu, page 63.

71 Why does the Kolbrin speak of ‘Ra-ma-kui’ (India) and not ‘Ra-mu-kui’ (Pacific) when referring to the great Pacific land of Ramukui ? Probably whoever edited the Kolbrin thought that the two names Ramukui and Ramakui were so similar that one must be a misspelling, and so made the spelling consistent throughout.

75 The History of India: Hindu, Buddhist, Brahmanical Revival, Volume III, James Talboys Wheeler, (London: Trübner & Co., 1874).

76 W. Robertson, An Historical Disquisition, India (1794)

77 See earlier text and note on changes in the Earth’s axis.

78 Kolbrin, Manuscripts 1:21

79 The Dead Sea?

80 Babylon, as mentioned in The Ramayana?

81 Kolbrin, Manuscripts 33:28

82 Kolbrin, Manuscripts 2:3

83 India?

84 Kolbrin, Manuscripts 1:15

85 Kolbrin, Manuscripts 1:19

86 Clifford Mahooty, personal communication

87 The Missing Lands, Freddy Silva

88 Kolbrin, Manuscripts 31:10

89 For an exhaustive hunt for the seven cities, see Andrew Collins’s Gateway to Atlantis, pp 175-185 (Caroll & Graf, 2000)

90 Plato writes: ‘just when you and other nations are beginning to be provided with letters and the other requisites of civilized life, after the usual interval, the stream from heaven, like a pestilence, comes pouring down, and leaves only those of you who are destitute of letters and education; and so you have to begin all over again like children, and know nothing of what happened in ancient times, either among us or among yourselves.’ Timaeus

91 Kolbrin, Sons of Fire 13:10

92 Kolbrin, Manuscripts 1:8

93 The Lost Continent of Mu, James Churchward (Neville Spearman, 1961), pp. 50-52

97 Timaeus, Plato

98 Ibid.

99 The stade, an ancient Greek unit of measurement, was the distance covered in the original Greek foot races (about 600 feet [180 metres]).

100 Commentaries of Proclus on the Timaeus of Plato, in five books, translated from the Greek, Thomas Taylor, Vol.1 (London, 1820)

101 Kolbrin, Sons of Fire 8:4

102 Atlantis: the Antediluvian World, Ignatius Donnelly (CreateSpace Independent Publishing Platform, 2008)

104 Kolbrin, Sons of Fire 12:5

105The Kolbrin speaks elsewhere of ‘the Red Men with us who knew the way of the waters’. These seem to be Phoenicians.

106 An Egyptian Hieroglyphic Dictionary, Wallis Budge

109 An Egyptian Hieroglyphic Dictionary, Wallis Budge, page 361B

111 See Jackson’s Oxford Journal, November 15, 1766

113 Kolbrin, Manuscripts 31:12

114 Ibid.

115 Critias, Plato

116 Underworld, Graham Hancock (Michael Joseph, 2002)

118 See ‘Guide to the Kolbrin’,


120 The giant continent west of Gibraltar was known to the Egyptians before 6th century BC when Plato was writing, because they used cocaine and tobacco – as far as we know, only found in South America

121 Atlantis, Edgar Cayce (A.R.E. Press, 2009) chapter 3, Text of Reading 877-26 M 46


123 Cf The Ancient Giants who ruled America: the missing skeletons and the great Smithsonian cover-up, Alan J. Dewhurst (Bear & Co, 2013). The Syracuse Daily Standard, July 23, 1897 reported not only the finding of … a nine-foot skeleton embalmed in some kind of dried cement. The journalist added, ‘Archaeologists believe that at some prehistoric time the country surrounding Mora was densely inhabited by a race of people who were much further advanced in civilization than the Indians.’ The El Paso Herald, April 19, 1915, reported that an eight-foot skeleton found near Silver City had been found encased in baked mud, ‘indicating that encasing the corpse in mud and baking it was the mode of embalming.’

124 Kolbrin, Manuscripts 1:20

125 Timaeus, Critias, Cleitophon, Mexenus, Epistles, Plato, transl. R.G.Bury (Loeb Classical Library, Harvard University Press, 1929)

126 Kolbrin, Manuscripts 31:16

128 The Lost Continent of Mu, James Churchward (Neville Spearman, 1961)

129 Kolbrin, Manuscripts 1:18

130Atlantis, Edgar Cayce (A.R.E. Press, 2009

131 The Missing Lands: Uncovering Earth’s Pre-Flood Civlisation, Freddy Silva (, 2019)

132 Critias, Plato

133 Ibid.

134 Kolbrin, Manuscripts 31:8

135 Kolbrin, Manuscripts 31:9

136 Kolbrin, Sons of Fire 13:6-12

137 In his book Serpent in the Sky: The High Wisdom of Ancient Egypt, John

Anthony West, the author and proponent of the Sphinx water erosion hypothesis, maintains that the Egyptian civilisation was a legacy from elsewhere.

139 Kolbrin, Sons of Fire 14:18

140 Kolbrin, Sons of Fire 14:1

141 The Scots: a genetic journey, Alistair Moffat and James F. Wilson (Birlinn, 2012).

142 ‘(Glasgow and the Clyde Valley landscape assessment Land Use Consultants in association with Glasgow University Archaeological Research Division 1, 1999).

Yvonne Whiteman is of Welsh, English and Scottish descent with distant Armenian ancestry. Leaving Oxford with an MA in English, she studied at St Martin’s School of Art in London. After several years as a freelance journalist and film critic, she spent two decades creating and editing religious, fine art and children’s classics at Frances Lincoln Publishing. Investigating the Kolbrin is now her quest and her articles on the Kolbrin have been published on

20 thoughts on “The Three Lost Motherlands of Egypt”

  1. Kennan says:

    Fascinating. Thank you for sharing!

  2. Susan+Bowen says:

    Very interesting. Thanks again Von for a scholarly and entertaining article.

  3. hayden says:

    Into the solitude of timelessness came Divine Loneliness and from this arose the desire to create… He took thought and brought into being within Himself the Universal Womb of Creation containing the everlasting essence…

    any creator of any kind must be total a monster, it creates clones of itself that then feed on each other mate with each other yet its all one. sounds like incest of a consciousness level, think about it, it creates its first being, which then it mates with its own first being thus producing a variety of clones of itself.
    Thats just like adam and eve storey if they had children then there children’s had children then its all incest both spiritually and materially.

    makes no sense at all there being a creator which creates suffering of all types for its clones of itself it so called children. Have you seen how animals act rape,domination food chain look at prey mantis black widow spider they eat there male counterparts yet this all comes from the thought of a god, Man this god is a monster.

  4. hayden says:

    looks like the creator creates like mad scientist and then lets its variety of clones run around causing muck, tell me did this god foresee the chaos of sexual perversion that would prevail through this world, little kids manipulated etc destroys and creates whole universes at a thought, well would seem this god being has no feelings for what ever happens within its own mental case thought construct creations.

  5. hayden says:

    “Sumerian and Kolbrin texts say that our DNA was originally a balanced mix of advanced and primitive genes, which gradually changed as human beings interbred with more primitive hominids”

    Could it be possible that the Australian aboriginals people still be this balanced mix?

  6. Yvonne Whiteman says:

    Anything is possible, Hayden.

  7. Chris says:

    I am very grateful for your detailed, diligent work. It’s brought new thinking to me. Riveting, fascinating are good adjectives. As a side note about what could have caused the earth axis to rotate, I am beginning to think that if/when a meteor hit the North American icecap, the volume of water that must have rushed into the sea possibly would have been enough mass to cause the axis to change. The Three Gorges Dam appears to be slowing down the earth’s rotation ever so slightly but is enough mass to result in an observable effect. I can image that the displaced mass of so much ice into the oceans would have had a much, much greater effect. I am a geologist and paleontologist by background. I want to thank you again for your work.

    1. Yvonne Whiteman says:

      Thank you, Chris. The more geologists and paleotontologists weigh in with evidence to support past cataclysms in the Earth’s past, the better. It helps counteract the centuries of the Christian Church’s maintaining that the cosmic history of our planet had always been smooth and uneventful, with nothing ever dropping from the skies – a belief that still holds sway. The alternative is too terrifying for most of us.

  8. Lucia says:

    Hello Yvonne,

    I had my “first reading” of your article, which means it will need many more to really understand everything! 🙂 What stood out for me though, was your inclusion of J. Churchward’s work. I came across his work on Mu last year, as I was searching for possible reasons for the similarities between the ancient Chinese and Mesoamerican art, symbols and the pyramid style. It just struck me how these 2 seemingly disconnected cultures could have these similarities in their cultures. Now of course, a massive continent that would connect these two parts of the world in the distant past, and in that way enable these connections would offer an answer, even though Mu existed so far back in time that I am not sure if these similarities could be only because of that, even if it was true. Nevertheless, I really felt a lot of sincerity in J. Churchward’s writing and research, and also find him to be quite down to earth. So I am happy that the in-depth researchers like you started delving into his work – how amazing you found the connections between Mu and Ra-Ma/Mu-Kui! Makes a lot of sense.

    1. Yvonne Whiteman says:

      I came across Churchward a few years ago, but had a struggle with his writing – too confident, too madcap – before I saw what he wrote about Ra-mu-kui and Ra-ma-kui in The Children of Mu. Then I caved in and started pulling together all the similarities between his writing and what is dotted throughout the Egyptian books of the Kolbrin. But it is worrying that no-one has located the Naacal tablets. I find myself comparing two sets of writing neither of which has provenance. How crazy is that?

  9. Edmond+Furter says:

    Lucia, south and central America was populated across the Pacific, explaining the stylistic similarities. The weather and population density at the time allowed a mixture of hunting, gathering and industrial agriculture. No need for a lost continent. The core similarities are much larger than the stylistic options, and require no motherland contact or allegiance to start or sustain. All people everywhere, in all ages, express the same culture at different phases of population density. If you look beyond styling ,which is inherently meaningless, you will find the core meaning to be identical. Cultural diffusion is a distraction from the study of culture.
    Mu continent may have existed in geological time, probably before the human age, certainly long before the American age. I enjoy the Kolbrin articles partly for revealing that popular anthropology ideas are universal.

    1. Yvonne Whiteman says:

      Thank you for this, Edmond. I I can only write what I find, and it emerges from the Kolbrin text that the lands from which the ancient Egyptians’ ancestors came were no longer in existence. Most people choose to adapt what the Kolbrin says to fit their belief systems; I prefer to see it as it stands, no matter how outlandish it seems in the context of today’s thinking.

      1. Edmond+Furter says:

        Yvonne, the attested civilisation that disappeared is the Aegean Islands headquarters of the Phoenicians on Thera /Santorini. I cite the New Chronology (NC) dating of David Rohl for that event, in Stoneprint Journal 7. That eruption had significant effects on the Nile Delta part of Egypt, at Tanis and Avaris. In the currently still canonical or accepted version of Mediterranean history, Greeks ‘disappeared’ for several hundred years, but the Greek ‘Dark Age’ is a fiction born of Egyptian chronology problems from Manetho, who strung together dynasties that actually co-ruled. Perhaps the NC could resolve some of the problems of dating the Kolbrin.

  10. Yvonne Whiteman says:

    Edmond, I am writing about an unattested civilisation which, according to the Egyptian books of the Kolbrin, disappeared much, much earlier. The paleogeographic reconstructions of the Cyclades Plateau reproduced above indicate that it was inundated 14,000-6,000 BC. Thera, which lies south of the Cyclades Plateau, is thought to have erupted c. 1600 BC – later if you follow David Rohl’s dating.

  11. Edmond+Furter says:

    All cultures assume predecessors more glorious and more ancient than history. Every culture has an Atlantis, probably mythical, or projected onto any meager ruins. Greek semi-legendary history proved be closer to truth. They told of their predecessors enemies as Amazonian archers led by women, probably Asian nomads with metals who were hard to supplant. And their predecessors friends as indigenous centaurs or ruffians. The Kolbrin is intriguing since it seems to redact several sources, and via probably two or three translations. Perhaps Greek, Arabic, and Roman Italian? Or Kurdish? And since it does not seem attested in any classical source. I would rather err on the side of assuming late redaction, and overstated age, than on the side of assuming geological ‘history’.
    There is good evidence for Gobekli monumental buildings dating to BC 6000, over earlier soil. Civilisation at the time was probably centered in the Mideast foothills. Yet even there Sumerian history is obscured by layers of Babylonian, Assyrian, Persian, Iranian, Muslim and mob layers, each with political distortions, despite a century of intensive research breakthroughs. The Kolbrin should probably be read as late myth, not ancient history?

  12. Yvonne Whiteman says:

    Could it be that the term ‘myth’ is a relatively recent paradigm in need of a rethink? If our present civilisation were to be virtually destroyed by climate-change or world war, survivors a thousand years hence would almost certainly describe the Internet as myth.

  13. Edmond+Furter says:

    Yvonne, I agree the the cultural record of places, events and notable people change over time. But the repertoire and paradigm of those changes is archetypal, fixed, and predictable. Cultures and civilisations mature, merge, and decline, but that repertoire is also archetypal, fixed and predictable. Our current unprecedented density played out on a smaller scale on Easter Island /Rapa Nui, except that we have unprecedented technology. Still nothing could change our innate patterns of behaviour. Since the last Ice Age, the general trend was better weather, denser population, and more diverse technology. The Ice Age was very long and we were few. The civilisations, migrations and diffusions of history, legend, and myth, all started about BC 7000. Recurrent features in myths worldwide are archetypal, unlikely to be historic.
    Perhaps the sources of the Kolbrin could be found, as the source of the Voynich Manuscript, the Phaistos Disc, the Biblical Creation myth, and similar apparently enigmatic and unique documents and artefacts.

  14. Yvonne Whiteman says:

    Thank you for this, Edmond.

  15. ArtDeco says:

    I realize this is an older post, but your commentary seems to be the only thing related to the Kolbrin on line other than a download of the book.
    I read it and it seems much like I would expect from your description of the backstory of any document that survived in obscurity for over a 1000 years.
    Incomplete, unverifiable, and infuriating like many myths that seem like garbled memories of real events. Therefore quite possibly as genuine as the author could make it..
    I read all your posts on here and wonder if you have written more elsewhere? Or have any links to others you could share?
    Thank you.

  16. Nicholas Michael Buck says:

    Hi Yvonne, reading through your works now and would really like to know if you have read “The Only Planet of Choice”? I have been trying to tie pieces together and recently revisited the Kolbrin Bible after a 15 year hiatus and it is revolutionizing my research. Would love to compare notes and share along the journey.

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