The Origin of Numbers and the Foundations of Civilisation

The Quadrivium

The Origin of Time

and the Great Sirius Observatory

We warmly welcome Hugh Evans, author of The Origin of Time, as our featured author this month. In his book series, The Origins, Hugh examines the Star Maps of Gwynedd —over 1,000,000 acres of star maps on the ground in North Wales. Hugh argues that the Star Maps of Gwynedd, composed of 88 constellations, were created by an ancient pre-Younger Dryas people who observed the heavens to understand their movements, and that these people designed and named the constellations to identify their movements over several precessional cycles. The Origin of Time explains the origins of the 88 constellations and the concepts of time they represent. Hugh asserts that these ancient people defined the heavens in the ancient language Welsh (Cymraeg) — a language that Hugh argues has remained unchanged in North Wales. Using this language, Hugh believes we can achieve a fuller understanding of the heavens above, as well as the concepts of time, our numbers, and shapes that Hugh argues were invented by the same ancient people.

In his article, Hugh introduces readers to advanced, encoded astronomical and mathematical knowledge revealed through this ancient language, pointing to a deep and rigorous understanding of the heavens in the distant past.

Interact with Hugh on our AoM forum here.


 

My September 2024 article began…

Extraordinary ancient knowledge of the cosmos, Earth’s place in the solar system, and understanding of precession of the equinoxes, tens of thousands of years before the Greeks, Egyptians and Babylonians, seems a reasonable deduction based on what we know. If only we could listen to that lost advanced ancient civilisation and hear what they had to say? Now we can.

Celestial motions, such as the precession of the equinoxes, occur over periods far longer than a human lifetime. Simply to recognise such motions, let alone predict them, requires continuity: continuity of observation, of reference points, of measurement, and continuity of communication: language. I present the ancient civilisation that understood and accurately predicted the movement of the heavens from the grand scale of precession to the intimate intricacies of passing moments, and who named the stars.

As Above, so Below

We now apply modern telescopes and computers and understand the precession of the equinoxes to be a c. 25,000-year repeating cycle. Our ancient ancestors only had their eyes and their wits to understand precession and then to name it correctly. This requires rigorous observation and monitoring for several cycles, perhaps 50 or 75 thousand years. The understanding and knowledge accumulated over millennia would need to be passed down through thousands of generations of observers and be embedded in cultural systems. This comprehension demands a robust numerical system, a grand holistic design and a fixed spatial and temporal frame of reference. Collectively, it must have been developed BEFORE and be used WHILST the monitoring takes place, not afterwards. The numerical system inspired by the heavens above was then employed on Earth below, as is evident in ancient structures on all continents.

At the same time, they developed their verbal language to explain their growing awareness of the celestial and terrestrial world around them. Only a modular verbal language would suffice; writing did not exist. The ancient language is Cymraeg, Welsh. The origin will never be known; I suspect it was a global language reflecting the global distribution of ancient structures, but it has remained intact in Cymru, Wales.

Llan– a people, a clan, an area (from lle – place, llu – throng, host and+an – to contain)

gweud– to speak. Llan-gweud – language – the speech of a people, area.

Language as a Measurement System

If knowledge is to survive across tens of thousands of years, it must be encoded in a form resistant to drift. Writing alone is insufficient; symbols can change meaning; writing can be distorted by a minority. A modular verbal system is required in which smaller units combine to form larger words, and in which changes propagate constraints throughout the system. Such verbal modular systems are incredibly resilient because change requires the whole population to change, or no change happens. Cymraeg, Welsh, exhibits precisely such properties and resilience. Words are composed of smaller phonetic and semantic units whose meanings are conserved across contexts. Root words derived from verbs with intrinsic meaning are modified by prefixes and suffixes, allowing users, if necessary, to reconstruct meaning as they speak or listen. Because components are shared system-wide, arbitrary alteration is effectively prevented. A demonstration of this is that loanwords from other cultures are rare; they would not fit into the system. Language here functions analogously to a measurement system: relational, constrained, and internally consistent.

Over three books of 900+ full colour pages, I provide thousands of worked examples, all repeatable, with references and links to all my resources, that demonstrate this wonderful, genius, verbal modular language and its employment in all matters, celestial and terrestrial. My work has been peer-reviewed by scientists with doctorates, by professionals and by many Welsh-speaking people.

Se-llestre; se – star, llestre – ‘matrix, vessel’, a star matrix and a vessel to hold and move in time: a beautiful and profound explanation! Llestre is from lle – place (as shown above) and ystre – a course. We get street from ystre. There is no intrinsic meaning of ‘celestial’ in Latin (or any other language); we are asked to believe the word spontaneously existed with no rational originii. Terrestrial is from the softly mutated daear, meaning Earth, from da, meaning ‘what is good’. Earth is also from d aer+(y)dd.

This ancient pre-Younger-Dryas language system was used to name the stars, the constellations, the planets, time in all its forms and scales, our numbers, our shapes, our measurement systems, mathematics, music, science and the elements of nature. This is the quadrivium, the four great scientific disciplines of arithmetic, astronomy, geometry and music, the ‘foundations of civilisation’ championed by the ancient Greeks and Romans: there is no intrinsic meaning in Latin or Greek.

Quadrivium(n.)iii

“Arithmetic, music, geometry, astronomy” (the four branches of mathematics, according to the Pythagoreans), from Latin quadrivium, which meant “place where four roads meet, crossroads,” from quadri- “four” (from PIE root *kwetwer- “four”) + via “way, road, channel, course”.

Four, 4, quad, and all their linguistic siblings originate from ped-war. Ped is a foot, hence pedestrian, le pied en Français, it is made of two smaller words, pe+ed, pe – what causes, +ed – aptitude, velocity: a foot is something that causes stance and movement, what a wonderful explanation! ‘-war is truncated from chwer, chwiw, chwyl, chwyr meaning ‘a whirl, a turn’. The four quwar-ters of a turn are the four fixed, bright, equally spaced ‘Royal’ stars on the ecliptic: Regulus, Aldebaran, Fomalhaut and Antares, through which our sun, the moon, and all the planets whirl.

Rhif [pronounced riv] means:   It is proved to be the origin because it is from a smaller word, rhi – what is specific, chief. Rhiol, royal, comes from rhi.

The Origin Series: Zodiac, Time & Numbers

My journey researching The Origin Series began when I rediscovered the origin of the Zodiac in Gwynedd, North Wales. An ancient star map set into the landscape that actually created the modern zodiac constellations above that we know today. This was explained in my previous article on Grahamhancock.comiv. The beginning of this journey of discovery was presented in my first book, The Origin of the Zodiac, which explained the where, what and how. The when, who, and, most importantly, why the Star Maps of Gwynedd were created remained unanswered. So, I began writing the companion and astronomical conclusion, The Origin of Time. As I attempted to explain the why, I came up against an increasing priority, the how. The how demanded a sufficiently robust numerical system for the whole to exist, a problem our ancient ancestors must have understood and overcome. The existing explanation of the origin of our numbers, that they originated from Brahmi numerals c.250BCE and migrated to Europe as ‘Arabic Numerals’v after the end of the Roman Empire, is woefully inadequate to withstand a simple test such as analysis of the measurement and geometry of Neolithic Stonehenge.

Figure 1: Earth sign. Observer at centre

My breakthrough was the number four, pedwar. Having determined the sign for Earth placed the observer at the centre of Earthly cardinal directions, with the external ring being the celestial equator, I realised that the number 4 demonstrated the same perspective. The cross represents the cardinal directions, each occupied by one of the four exceptionally bright, eternally still, equally spaced, Royal stars…

Figure 2: The number 4 and its celestial origins

and the slanting line connects the plane of the ecliptic with the polestar above. The observer is again at the centre. This creates a permanently fixed, rational, three-dimensional framework within which all other stars can be referred.

Al-de-bar-an: great – southern – pinnacle (bright star) – that contains (the ecliptic)

An-tarw-es: opposite – Taurus the bull (tarw – what breaks through, a bull)

All the ancient stars can be explained using this same system.

Perhaps a bull was chosen to represent this part of the heavens because of the Taurid meteor showers ‘breaking through’: quite a sight. This demonstrates that naming in the original language reflected observation.

The heavens could not be charted without having established this fixed three-dimensional framework anchored on bright, well-spaced stars about the ecliptic. This framework is not mythological in origin; it is operational. Without it, neither zodiacal division nor long-term stellar drift could be recognised.

In The Origin of Numbers, I show how all modern words for 4, including the English ‘four’, derive from the word ped-chwarvi. I perform this demonstration for all numbers, indicating the origin and extreme antiquity and disproving other explanations.

However, this framework needs a context within which to exist otherwise it is not anchored in time and space. The number that provides this contextual anchor has to be the first number — it can only be number 1— otherwise nothing works. The number one comes from un – ‘one, unique’ and an – to contain. The Sumerian creator god Anu, Uranus (Ouranos), Wodan (Odin), and Amun-Ra in Greek, Norse, and Egyptian mythology all derive from the root un/an. All these gods created and contained the universe.

The word Godde means ‘to design, intend’. Proto-Indo-European provides PIE *ghu-to- “poured,” from root *gheu- “to pour, pour a libation”vii

Figure 3: The number 1 and its celestial origins

The number 1 is designed to represent the universe. The upright line is the rotational axis of the universe, and the base is the plane of the celestial equator. The number 1 has a small nose; this is the prime longitude. We still use this system of charting the heavens today; it is called Right Ascension (the angle from the prime longitude around the celestial equator) and Declination (the angle above and negatively below the celestial equator). The brightest star in the heavens, the beautiful Sirius, is presently located at: Right Ascension 6hrs 45min 09sec, Declination -16o 42’ 58”viii.

Now the universe is defined with 1; the three-dimensional framework of 4 has a physical contextual anchor, but it cannot yet be employed to reference the stars without a contextual temporal anchor. This is provided by the number 2, which determines the physical operational movement of time from one moment to the next. Two, Tew, Dieu, Deus, all originally from dau/dwy meaning 2 and ‘a course, rule, order’ and the phonetically similar Dew/Duw/Dai, meaning ‘god’ from de meaning ‘the south, what is right’ and together implying the sun (god).

Now that the tick-tock movement of time has been defined by the sun with 2, the universe requires a holistic temporal frame: the number 3 creates the metaphysical planes of time: the PAST spirit-world of the preceding aeons, the PRESENT mortal world of our consciousness and the underworld, the FUTURE from our perspective, the last great journey back to the spirit-world: this brilliant metaphysical cycle of time repeats for eternity. The number 3 represents the journey of the soul, and the Milky Way; it is described and named as such in this ancient languageix. It implies that ancient people had a far more sophisticated understanding of themselves and the scales of time than we had given them credit. They believed the Milky Way was the repository of eternal spirit and that every star was an ancestor.

Now that the universe has been defined spatially in its entirety (1) and temporally by the constant momentary movement of time (2) and the aeons of time represented by (3), only now can the fixed framework of the heavens (4) be capable of measuring all the positions of the stars, completely anchored in space and time. Each number was created sequentially, relying on the accumulated definition of the previous numbers. 5 follows 4 and relies on 1, 2, 3, and 4 being predefined. This creates increasing explanation and sophistication in the celestial symphony. Once it is heard, it is like tuning away from the white noise of nothing to hear a great, all-encompassing orchestration. Once it is heard, it can’t be unheard.

Numbers are not merely abstractions or symbols, nor are they random or unrelated to each other; they are tools developed to solve specific problems. Each number adds a necessary dimension to understanding the universe.

One (1) establishes totality and orientation. Two (2) establishes movement and sequence. Three (3) establishes cyclical time and continuity beyond the present. Four (4) establishes spatial reference and division. Five (5) places the most obvious celestial objects in this framework, there being 5 visible planets. Only once these foundations exist can higher numbers operate coherently.

This sequential dependency is not mystical; it is functional. A fixed celestial framework cannot be used without time. Time cannot be tracked without sequence. Sequence cannot exist without distinction. The structure of a number reflects the structure of the cosmos as it was experienced.

Corroborative Domains: Geometry, Music, Science

Geometry, music, and the identification of natural elements are corroborative survivals of the same worldview. Each reflects an attempt to describe proportion, harmony, and structure using inherited conceptual tools that are common to and mutually dependent on one another. Change one, and all are changed; therefore, the complete system evolves to be resilient to change. Where later cultures recorded fragments of this knowledge, they often preserved results without preserving origins. The persistence of coherent naming and proportional relationships suggests continuity and inheritance by later cultures rather than rediscovery.

Geometry and Arithmetic

A+ rhif-me+tica+ prefix creating emphasis, similar to ‘very’x rhif – what divides, a number, me – an agent (mes -to measure), +tid suffix creating an abstract conceptxi.

Figure 4: Sphere defined by equal rays emanating from a centre

Etymonline.com states that sphere is “from Greek ‘sphaira’ globe, ball, a word of unknown origin.”xii It is no longer of unknown origin: cyrhaedd means sphere. There is no Greek Sph- sound in Welsh, and there is no Cyrh sound in Greek. Cyrhaedd (sphere) means ‘reach, extent’ and is made of components: cyrch, rhae, rhaedd. Cyrch is ‘a centre’, rhae is a ‘constraint’, and rhaidd is a ray.

A sphere is ‘the extent of rays from a centre’.

This is a beautiful, perfect explanation with intrinsic meaning and celestial origin: a star is a point that emanates rays from a centre. Sphere has no origin in any other language. The origin of all the classic shapes and their attributes, including square, cube, diagonal, ratio and the Platonic solids, are explained in The Origin of Numbers.

Figure 5: The mathematical constant Pi

Pi π and Phi ɸ ‘Golden Ratio’

These universal constants were known and employed in constructions from great antiquity on all continents: the premise that pi π and phi ϕ were first identified by the Greeks does not survive scrutiny.

Pae means ‘ a constraint’, paw – ‘what extends around’, appropriate for a circle.

Ffai means ‘an extremity, a turn’, ffain means ‘what is conical’: a perfect explanation of phi ϕ the Golden Ratio.

Ffai-bon-arch-i means ‘conical-base/lineage-superior’, leaving us to wonder whether the Italian mathematician Fibonacci, who ‘discovered’ the series, existed at all!

Measurement of the Earth

Measurement systems attributed to later historical periods display remarkable coherence when examined against the dimensions of the Earth itself. This coherence is difficult to explain as a coincidence or a late invention. It is more plausibly understood as a refinement of a far older system derived from terrestrial observation. Units such as feet, cubits, and larger measures form interrelated families rather than isolated conventions. The persistence of ancient measurement modules and their ubiquitous application implies intentional proportionality rather than accidental agreement.

The ancient people who accurately measured the Earth derived and named the measurement system using their modular language. Ffe means ‘what is outward’, this root word is modified with the ydd suffix creating an instrument or agent, and the compound suffix-fedd can be attached to any root word to denote a length measurementxiii. It is the origin of the foot and feet measurement module nomenclature. One second of arc of the Earth’s equatorial circumference is sublimely 100 feetxiv EXACTLY.

The Origin of Numbers explains the interrelation of all foot modules and their variables, and their derivation from the size of planet Earth, as well as the origins of other length measurement units, including the metre, cubit and megalithic yard, how they relate to the foot module, and related measurements of volume, fluid capacity, area and time.

Physics and Chemistry

Now, it is no surprise that, as ancient people surveyed and measured the night sky and the Earth to determine its nature, scale, and properties, the materials of ‘Earth’ were also identified and named. And so it is: the elements we know today are very ancient, or were named to reflect their properties in more modern times, using ancient nomenclature. The Origin of Numbers lists all elements and explains their naming origin, for example:

syl-ffw – sulphur – syl – earth, ffwr – burning (not Sanskrit गन्धकं gandhakam ‘smelly’)

ffodd-ffwr -phosphorus – ffos – splendour, bright, ffwr – burning.

Hydrogen was known to the Greeks, but it was likely isolated by a far more ancient people. Isolating hydrogen requires knowledge of acids and bases and/or electrolysis. Hei-dwr-gen means ‘quickly-water-makes’, which hydrogen makes quickly if isolated and ignited. The Greeks also understood basic electricity, referring to amber as electrum for its static electric properties, but electricity or electrum has no intrinsic meaning in Greek; the word simply exists. It is likely, therefore, that this knowledge was inherited from a previous civilisation that determined the physics of electricity and demonstrated that by naming it with intrinsic meaning. El spirit, ech ‘that yields, from, out of, that pervades and causes’, trech – superior passing, to overcome.

Figure 6: Silver dollar. Photo Windrain (CCBYSA4.0)

Ancient monies and precious metals were also named by these incredible ancient people. Let’s go straight to the sparkly stuff: gold. From gol, meaning covering, vesture and gole meaning splendour, with +ed suffix creating a noun. Gold is aur, eur the origin of all other languages. The origin of ‘Quid’, the British slang name for £1 sterling, is no longer uncertainxv: chwed-eg is 60, there are 60 silver groats to a pound sterling in old money. The Origin of Numbers explains the nomenclature of many ancient precious metals and monetary units from shekels to shillings, dollars to drachmas.

Music

Music is as old as self-consciousness. We were able to refer to ourselves from the earliest moments of language, and to associate existence with sound and music. It’s a wonderful thought that our ancestors were so aware, had so much capacity for thought, so long ago. The root word of music my also means ‘me’ in the language of first expression (and English today).

Conclusion: The Foundations of Civilisation, The Quadrivium and Trivium

We will not be able to reveal a lost civilisation in full detail. Instead, we can recover the structure of thought that made advanced ancient understanding possible. Fixed stars, long time, stable language, and coherent measurement together form a system capable of surviving catastrophe and forgetting. This is our inheritance; our ancient ancestors went to incredible effort to gift us this knowledge.

The Origin Series, Zodiac + Time (Astronomical) and Numbers demonstrate this ancient pre-Younger-Dryas people, and their legacy of the foundations of civilisation created over tens of thousands of years. This legacy was inherited by classical cultures such as the Mesopotamians, Egyptians, and Greeks, and recorded in writing for the first time, albeit in fragments.

The quadrivium represents complete understanding of the celestial and terrestrial worlds, and was achieved in one ancient language, represented today as Cymraeg, Welsh. This language represents the trivium, the three disciplines of grammar, rhetoric and logic: together being all seven ancient disciplines of the Quadrivium and Trivium.

References

ihttps://archive.org/details/pocketdictionary00rich/page/n181/mode/2up?q=gweud

iihttps://www.etymonline.com/word/celestial

iiihttps://www.etymonline.com/word/quadrivium

ivhttps://grahamhancock.com/evansh1/

vhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Hindu%E2%80%93Arabic_numeral_system

viThe Origin of Numbers by Hugh Evans, page 41 – 47

viihttps://www.etymonline.com/word/god

viiihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius

ixThe Origin of Numbers by Hugh Evans, page 34-40

xhttps://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/a-#Welsh

xihttps://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-tid#Welsh

xiihttps://www.etymonline.com/word/sphere

xiiihttps://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-fedd#Welsh

xivThe Origin of Numbers by Hugh Evans, page 125

xvhttps://www.etymonline.com/word/quid

The Origin of Numbers and the Foundations of Civilisation

The Quadrivium

The Origin of Time

and the Great Sirius Observatory

A life-long star gazer, Hugh studied Astrophysics at university before changing course and graduating with a Masters Degree in Aeronautical Engineering. After graduation, Hugh qualified as a Chartered Accountant and began a career in business finance.

Hugh discovered the Star Maps of Gwynedd when researching the landscape of North Wales in 2020. Referring to hundreds of books, thousands of videos and millions of words and now having made many visits to North Wales, Hugh has investigated the Star Maps of Gwynedd, applying his scientific training, engineering practicality and accounting prudence to present these hypotheses in three books. Hugh claims, ‘the Star Maps of Gwynedd is the most important artefact on Earth... because it connects us by language to the lost advanced antediluvian civilisation, that charted the heavens’.

25 thoughts on “Evidence for the Lost Advanced Ancient Civilisation”

  1. Martin F. says:

    Dear Mr. Evans this article is beautiful. What grips my attention is your description of the quadrivium of Pythagoras… My studies of the works of Proclus (450CE) who follows Pythagorean and platonic theology has reference. The pythagoreans hide their metaphysics under number and enigmas, as you may well know. Thus the Miraculous tetrad of Pythagoras, uncovered by Thomas Taylor, I found to be most fascinating. For this tetrad contains his 4-fold world forming movement and the planes of formation of the mind and the soul. The four sensible aspects of his tetrad is well known, as you indicate. Perhaps you might be interested in this additional and psychologically important perspective. Been following Grahams work for decades. Thanks for your great work.

    1. Hugh Evans says:

      Dear Martin F, thank you for your comment and expansion on my premise. Yes, the scope for re-understanding the Greek philosophers and mathematicians is great, and language provides one avenue. I have had to limit the cope of my work in order to bring it into a focus for all, otherwise the pagination would expand to thousands.

  2. Dave says:

    Excellent work

    1. Hugh Evans says:

      Thank you for your comment

  3. Augustus Frates says:

    This is brilliant research the way the information is presented and laid out. It’s very easy to understand. It’s as if the author has found a way to tune into the frequency of the ancient mind of man. Bravo Hugh Evans !! The world needs more people like you . Thank you to this page for sharing this wonderful research . Cheers

    1. Hugh Evans says:

      Thank you Mr Frates for your comment, I am humbled.

  4. richard grinter says:

    Dear Hugh, this book is full to the brim with startling revelations. I enjoyed every page immensely. Congratulations on an important piece of work.

    Richard

    1. Hugh Evans says:

      Thank you

  5. Richard Collins says:

    As always Hugh an excellent insight onto the void of missing knowledge. It is fascinating to see you join the dots in a way that conventional wisdom misses. We have to dig deep and appreciate that the human condition had been curious from the very beginning. Keep up the good work.

    1. Hugh Evans says:

      Thank you for your comment

  6. Phil says:

    I just finished Hugh’s Origin Of Time book last week. Fascinating, paradigm shifting research, well suited to fans of Graham and his work. Nice to see him recognised on this platform!

    1. Hugh Evans says:

      Thanks for your support Phil

  7. Jason Silver says:

    Hello, I would like to ask a question. Has anyone been able to find ancient energy Ley lines? I have come across something that most people would never understand. Has to do with my family blood line that dates back to Easter Islands statues. Which has something to do with the Appellation mountains. Not sure if I have spelled it right. I AM in NB Canada. Have come across some rocks. When I hold them I get an energy charge. Some of my family members can fell it. But is really strong with me. Everything is based off the moon and stars. Has something to do with the four elements of life. There is four of us that have special gifts.
    I would love to talk to someone about this.
    Thanks
    Jason

    1. Hugh Evans says:

      Hi Jason, thanks for your comment.
      You have raised several questions, I’m not sure who is the best person to answer them.
      There are Ley lines that are well known in Britain, but it is not my area of expertise.
      The changing energy is linked to the phases of the moon, and some rocks can become highly charged and then discharge. IO have measured this myself with a magnetometer.
      Hugh

    2. ken says:

      Hi Jason,
      These Canadians may be able to help you
      https://www.facebook.com/groups/1391523521216300

      Best wishes

  8. David Odell says:

    Hello Mr Evans, I really like what you said about sequence. As we observe the current iteration of the english language we type with, would that qualify in your eyes as a “self forming system” ?

    1. Hugh Evans says:

      Hello Mr Odell. My work is primarily about the stars and the quadrivium. I have navigated upstream historically the logic of language to find their origin. My speciality is not in downstream language evolution, although I employ and deconstruct thousands of examples in many languages over nearly 1000 pages in my three books, all using the same repeatable, scrutinisable rationale and process.
      Welsh evolved over tens of thousands of years when only a modular, logical, self-repairing, resilient, omniscient, developable verbal language was sufficient. It self-formed.
      English evolved from Welsh primarily because the evolution strictures of Welsh that were its ancient strength had become its weakness in the faster moving modern world of the middle first millennium CE. A written language had become the tool of the social elite to maintain internal authority and project power outwards. English has a lot of simplifications that were the cultural idiosyncratic ‘passport’ of Welsh, English employed loan words directly into the language fabric, this cannot be done with modular Welsh. English has become the common global language because of its power, much delivered by its Welsh origin. Therefore arguably, English is self-forming, it assimilates everything before it, Welsh does not.
      I hope that is useful. Diolch yn fawr, Hugh

      1. David Odell says:

        Thank you for the time and answer. The reason I ask, is that I have been searching for the existence of knowledge of the 20 day cycle globally for about 20 years. What I have found is that everywhere I find the 36 decans of the solar year, I also find it is accompanied by knowledge of the 20 day cycle. In the English alphabet, the 20 consonants strongly appear to have self formed in alignment of that cycle, by sequence and shape. The only two letters out of place are the T and P and by switching these the entire sequence falls into place. but, because it is self forming, as we agree, it cannot be taken as knowledge of the 20 day cycle, but perhaps a product of it.
        So, is there any sequence or set, of 20 or 22 characters or sounds in Welsh that stand out as foundational, or have you come across anything that might indicate knowledge of a 20 day cycle, or prominent (set of 20) anything ?

        So far, I have the Maya, who I started with, China, India, Japan, Egypt, and the Americas in general, but no European example.
        In that recently it was announced Stonehenge displayed knowledge of the 36 decans, I am theorizing that this should indicate the 20 day cycle was known by the same who built it.

        1. Hugh Evans says:

          Yes, Welsh was originally a 20 base system, eg 60 is trigain, literally 3 x 20. Modern Welsh is ten base.
          Put ‘Welsh numbers twenty base’ into google AI for a summary. I discuss this in my book, as well as the origin connected to the moon: 2 lunations = 60 phases inclusive. I also discuss the origin of vowels which are celestial in nature, but not consonants, so I look forward to your work. As a verbal language that evolved over aeons, the consonants would have evolved simultaneously with other forms of increasing self-awareness eg numeracy, astronomy, society generally (in my opinion). Many Welsh consonants are inter-replaceable eg c-g, p-b, m-f, t-d, and would be interesting as to how it fits into your hypothesis and may be part of your proof. I provide a brief explanation of consonants and diphthongs.

          1. David Odell says:

            Thank you , that is certainly a good enough clue to grab your books. In the places where I can definitively confirm the knowledge, I find descriptors or images or both, that are in the specific sequence of the others. For instance Rain or Thunderstorms are always in the 9 position, Sun is 10 etc etc. The most interesting part of the Egyptian I have so far, is that certain ones are verbatim, some with Chinese , and some with Maya. I am just now getting further into that culture having only started recently. The clue that led me to examine the OT was simply, 20 is called a score. So, the work will be to differentiate between a self forming system, and display of knowledge. It would be pretty exciting to find a northern example. Lemme chew on your books and I’ll let you know. Thanks again.

  9. Hugh Evans says:

    ys-cor/gor (score) represents the moon, 3 score is 2 lunations.

    1. David Odell says:

      That to me signals priority of 20 over 60 or 30.

      If the score is 20, then close attention is warranted. Not because of fingers and toes. Because it is a visible cycle globally, I think it is an underrated area of study, and it glares openly.

      Exodus 1- 20 follows the 20 days, by chapter. Quite explicitly and plainly.

      1. Hugh Evans says:

        I think the ancients used several bases simultaneously. There is evidence of foot based (12, 24, 60) measurement systems being used as well as metre based (10, 20, 100) systems at the same time depending on which was better to use in the circumstance.

        1. David Odell says:

          I specifically study the 20 day cycle followed by many ancient cultures. This is not rooted in math or astronomy, but rather a map of reality and consciousness. It can be used to track behavior and events. So far, everywhere I found it, it was paired with the 36 decans, which when used in tandem provides a useable forecast for decision making.
          The Maya did use the human body to teach it, but I have not seen that in Egypt or China, but there’s a lot I haven’t seen.
          I’m going to grab your books, because this is the best lead I have seen in that part of the world. Give me a few months to chew.

  10. Jon M says:

    Hi Hugh,
    I’ve been studying Welsh for a couple years for no other reason than to keep it alive for the next generation. I’m American but I have Welsh ancestry and I’m going to purchase your book as a companion piece for my studies! Thanks for putting in the good work, I found this article extremely fascinating. I wish you the best and look forward to reading more of your writing.
    -Jon

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