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cladking
Open mind Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "surrounded on all sides by a wall at least 25' > high." > > I was talking about this earlier. How do we know > that height? I posted an image of an idea that > the wall was just above the original entrance. > Do we have any actual evidence of any idea of the > height? N
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Today
cladking
Corpuscles Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I won't persist. But will comment on your next > post, as it seems Manu has abandoned you to be > polite? Perhaps he has a better understanding of why a language plots out as a curve and is simply perplexed why this one would not. It does this because the language, the vocabulary, is almost all nou
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Today
cladking
cladking Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > A few people seem not to be able to see this. The first graph clearly shows two straight lines one with an r^2 of ~.8 and the other a ~.9 This is about as close to certainty as you can get in the real world. I wish I could have gotten such clear cut results in my work as that but rare
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Today
cladking
Corpuscles Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Well, then you will have no trouble presenting > your word count. The whole lot! You've either lost the thread here or never had it. I could review and show you but if you didn't have it before then you won't get it in a review. It is not necessary to present my word count or to again explain how I did
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Yesterday
cladking
Corpuscles Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You did not count the words to determine, both the > rank and the frequency. Yes. I did. How do you think I knew it broke Zipf's law if I didn't count the words. I counted the words in the English translation and could see that the same few words were used over and over and over. Egyptologists didn't s
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Yesterday
cladking
Well, that's odd. I tried inserting the address in a different way and the post didn't even show up as having been edited. The only way I could see the picture was to copy and paste the address and put it in the address bar. You can see the pyramid is sitting right on top of the pavement and this pavement was surrounded on all sides by a wall at least 25' high. All parts still vis
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Yesterday
cladking
Trevorjjj Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Stage one I suspect has zero to do with Pyramids - > it's simply an attempt to accumulate water and > make it accessible at the surface or Grotto. This > can be achieved before a single Pyramid block was > placed, providing they could fill the bedrock > passages and SC. This is where the water so
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Yesterday
cladking
cladking Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think you've lost count of both me and > Egyptology. It's me one, and Egyptologists > hundreds of thousands. It's even more lopsided > when you consider scholarship and expertise; it's > me zero and Egyptology tens of thousands. ...As it concerns Zipf's Law it's me one, Egyptologists zero.
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Yesterday
cladking
cladking Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If it really does obey Zipf's Law and you've made > a good case for it the fact remains there is no > reason to presuppose this is indicative of it > being in any other way like modern languages. Just to be clear here, the fact that Ancient Language does not obey Zipf's Law is no proof or even solid
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Yesterday
cladking
Agni Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > One of the things people seem to discount so > heavily in their translations and conceptions of > egyptian thought are the various technical > concepts and understandings presented in the > systems of their religio-magical thought. There > is no possible way to approach such technical > understandi
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Yesterday
cladking
Corpuscles Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Would you mind advising: > > How you propose to "check" the utterances ? I will read them and count the words that are used as "poetry" or "wall decoration" and those used to create meaning. These are from the "Rituals of Ascension" so ofttimes words are repeat
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Yesterday
cladking
Manu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The wall I analyzed to whose data you refer is in > the ante-chamber on the south side, PT 260-263, > 267-271. > The utterances you cite are in the sarcophagus > chamber on the east wall. From this list of utterances it appears that only several words are dramatically affected and the overall resul
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2 days ago
cladking
Manu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is this a harmless mistake on your part or is it > an intenionally deceitful statement to win a > debate you cannot win on evidence? > > The wall I analyzed to whose data you refer is in > the ante-chamber on the south side, PT 260-263, > 267-271. > The utterances you cite are in the sarcopha
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2 days ago
cladking
Manu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > To obey the law the line must form a sweeping curve that is a straight line on a logarithmic scale; Indeed, because of the specific utterances used to create Manu's graph the lines are forced to slightly more approximate a curve. The problem is especially number 219 but #222 and #208 also contribute sample b
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2 days ago
cladking
No! You misunderstand me. Manu's results show my contention as I expected; It produces two lines rather than a curve; When natural human language (Ancient Language) began it may or may not have obeyed Zipf's Law. I believe it would approximate it a little better but it would not obey it. There were so few words at this time that the sweeping curve would have been impossible in any case
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2 days ago
cladking
Manu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I made a couple logical errors in the interpretation of your data. I still haven't had time to review the relevant rituals because I was distracted by reading the "Incomplete Pyramids". Great book by the way, thanks. The author is much kinder to Egyptologists than I was even fifteen years ago. Mebbe he
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2 days ago
cladking
seasmith Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Manu wrote: > > " ... I have also looked at Stephen Brabin's > excellent Incomplete Pyramids. Here is an example. > This is a large png file so you can zoom in to see > the annotations I made. It is pain-staking, but > the results are incredible. " > > > >>> &g
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3 days ago
cladking
Corpuscles Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ...I wonder if you could advise what is the > most frequent , second, and third most frequent > word in the Pyramid Texts? > I am wondering if you could post your graph and > the statistical analysis of such.... > You did of course do this first didn't you?... > > Anyway post your &
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3 days ago
cladking
Manu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The fundamental assumption of your entire theory > can thus be easily falsified. This makes me > wonder, if you ever did the experiment. You say > you did, but I do not believe you any longer. Look > how much time you wasted arguing something for > which you had no basis, instead of just putting in &
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3 days ago
cladking
Manu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Here are the data for the adjacent > south wall of the ante-chamber. > > The total count of words and conjugations: 1255 > > Words and conjugations used once: 202 > Words and conjugations used twice: 104 > Words and conjugations used thrice: 46 > > 4 and up with rank and frequency: 90
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5 days ago
cladking
Corpuscles Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > 1. Do you think the AE who inscribed the PTs from > Unas right through the 6th Dynasty KNEW and > understood what the utterances meant? Yes? or No? > Maybe? For the main part, yes. The texts were already being amended to remove the living atum which was a living water source and replace him wit
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5 days ago
cladking
"What is missing in this passage is the word stone, jnr, which is what you claim is being lifted. In terms of logic, you must falsify the competing model that emerges from the passage and relief: This is a limbless torso that must be lifted into the sky by virtue of a boat." It is that they need a boat that shows it is being lifted. The 3nw-boat serves no function other than to lift
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5 days ago
cladking
"First of, I ask, if this is the key piece to the riddle of how the pyramids were made, then why isn't it mentioned in every single version of the Pyramid Texts? Why not in Unas and Teti, for example?" It is. It is mentioned many times directly and obliquely in the PT. Remember though, the PT isn't magic but neither is it a manual for building pyramids. It is the rituals read at t
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5 days ago
cladking
Manu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Your job is to back up all of these responses with > the actual primary evidence line by line. I have > never see you do this. This entire post is > worthless in your quest. It does not help you to > convince a reasonable audience of those you wish > to bring over to your side, only people who are &g
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5 days ago
cladking
Manu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > 1) You have created, out of thin air, the > pejorative, modern concept of superstition and > then applied this standard against the idea that > the ancient Egyptians believed that inanimate > objects could be alive and worshiped, and that > verbal magic could be use to animate them. In > actuality
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5 days ago
cladking
Corpuscles Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Challenge : If you just dropped the obstinance and > studied everything (writing) you can find about > Unas and all 6th Dynasty kings (Teti right through > to the wives of Pepi II) . Things like what they > did, what the ate, dressed like, their > expeditions, what they valued what annoyed them
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5 days ago
cladking
I don't have time right now to give your post the response it deserves but... Manu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ...and > you mean to tell me that you have studied "more > than enough Egyptology?" > > Excuse me very much, but that is an insult You are equating Egyptological beliefs and the reality of ancient Egypt. Ancient
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5 days ago
cladking
"Then, you use this conjured up idea to falsify your limited, incompletely studied impression of how the Pyramid Texts have been translated in order to make the claim that they concretely tell the reader how the pyramids were built." I've studied more than enough Egyptology to know that from the very beginning the Pyramid Texts were translated and interpreted in terms of the "bo
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5 days ago
cladking
"Then, you use this conjured up idea to falsify your limited, incompletely studied impression of how the Pyramid Texts have been translated in order to make the claim that they concretely tell the reader how the pyramids were built." Really!?! It just doesn't matter then that they said things like, "and how shall he be assembled? Then let this copper be brought ------ the ḥnw
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6 days ago
cladking
Manu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This is circuitous logic. You assume what you wish > to conclude. No, absolutely not. I'm merely trying to communicate with tautologies, not to think or reason. > In the process, you leave the > impression that your tautologies are proven facts, > but they aren't. I'm perfectly willing to de
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