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6 weeks ago
Susan Doris
QuoteTheology is an academic field. It's studied somewhat like literature, history, and philosophy--but at a graduate rather than an undergraduate level. The theology student, like any other graduate student must develop and defend an original contribution to knowledge. I'm actually advising a doctoral student in theology in preparation for his defense right now--as a methodologist.Does this doct
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6 weeks ago
Susan Doris
QuoteIf you really believe this, then why the post at all? Well, the answer to that is as I said in the OP - that this might be a very short topic! And I posted it because I had been following a discussion on SoF and thought one aspect of it might have different views here on GH.QuoteIn a way, this is one of the most arbitrary things you have ever said, and that is saying a lot. This is supposed
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6 weeks ago
Susan Doris
And yet again you have entirely failed to respond to the content of my last post which challenged you to explain exactly what you think an atheist is. Instead you write another disparaging post about me personally, claiming knowledge about me you do not have. Susan drrayeye Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Susan, > > I'm not quoting your respons
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6 weeks ago
Susan Doris
As you will see, I have responded to Ray's latest post, the contents of which manage to be another kind of back-handed compliment while at the same time can be read as yet another pat-on-the-head post! :D Susan Archaic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Nobody would ever be kicked out of class in an > academic setting for saying things that are > u
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6 weeks ago
Susan Doris
And I do not need you to talk about me in the third person to others. You have done far far too much of that and persistently so over the years. It is, I understand, against code of conduct on these boards, so please cease, desist and refrain from doing so. Susan drrayeye Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Pete, > > Susan has been posting here
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6 weeks ago
Susan Doris
QuoteIt was a good response. You clearly don't know what Theology is.If you are so sure of that, you could try telling me exactly what it is, bearing in mind that the first definition that comes up is that it is 'a study of the nature of God'. And I rpeat, how can you study something that does not exist except as an idea in human minds? Susan
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6 weeks ago
Susan Doris
QuoteDo you mind if I ask, in a post about “theology” what people are you talking about? Questions always welcome! The topic is Theology' and as I said in the OP, I think it is a non-subject. How can something, or the nature of that something, that does not exist be studied in the first place? QuoteTheology is an academic discipline. Okay, but what is it that all these people taking a degree in
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6 weeks ago
Susan Doris
QuoteTheology is what you failed to consider before dropping out of the Church of England. It's why you can't legitimately call yourself an atheist.And why do you think anyone should think that I should defer to your opinions about me instead of my own?! Do you have a response to the content of my OP? If not, perhaps it would be better if you stayed away from any topic I start. Susan
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6 weeks ago
Susan Doris
QuotePS, bringing up theology is talking about god, even if you pretend to know nothing about it or want to criticize it, etc. You are still talking about it!Well, I can't stop you interpreting it that way, but that is not what I am talking about. I can tell you yet again that I am always, always talking about people. Susan
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6 weeks ago
Susan Doris
Susan,Quote I've never intentionally put you down--ever. I have repeatedly reminded you that you have no grounding either in Science or Religion--mostly because you seem to suggest to others that you are qualified. In an academic setting, you'd be kicked out of the class for saying things that are unfounded. Ray No comment from me is necessary I think!! ?Susan
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6 weeks ago
Susan Doris
QuoteOur understanding of reality via religion or science is so infantile, it's unknowable. It's too beyond human comprehension. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try, but we're bottlenecked by our own hardware and frames of reference. Why should anything exist to begin with? The best we can come up with is "because it does". We know nothing.Thank you. Yes, that is all too true. Fortuna
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6 weeks ago
Susan Doris
QuoteThank you for bringing up another post about God. You talk about God more than anyone I know.That is totally, absolutely and completely wrong As far as I am concerned there is no God to talk about. I am always, always talking about people and about what and how we think. I shake my hed sadly at the thought that you have been interpreting what I say as talking about God.QuoteTo me everything
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6 weeks ago
Susan Doris
103. Theology
This is only a shortish topic, I should think, but you never know ,... ... Since theology is ' a study of the nature of God', it seems to me that it is a non-subject! What the thousands of theologists for the past thousand or so years have been studying and pulping thousands of trees in the process of writing about , exists only in the human imagination as I understand it, so I wonder if anyon
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6 weeks ago
Susan Doris
QuoteRay: Nah. It was just friendly banter . . . I have been considering whether to respond to this post and have decided, as you see, to do so. I do not accept 'friendly banter' from you. So many of your posts over the years have been attempted putdowns - failed every time""" - that I do not accept this one as 'friendly banter' either. Please, when responding to my posts, or o
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6 weeks ago
Susan Doris
Quoteand that's where you win big time, Susan.A sort of back-handed compliment , I suppose, but which misses the point! The idea of the words 'winning' or 'losing' entering into a discussion is completely absent from my thoughts. it's the discussion between the start and the tail-off of a topic that is always of interest. I have never been concerned about winning or losing anything. I wasn't u
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6 weeks ago
Susan Doris
QuoteI think I know what religions are for. They are for Susan to show off her atheisme! What would she do without them? One thing I have never been is a sho-off. One look in a mirror when I was around 9, straight hair, NHS glasses and a bar round sticking-out teeth was enough to let me know that I was no fairy-tale, beautiful princess!! Anyway, showing off and conceit is definitey not in my natu
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6 weeks ago
Susan Doris
QuoteWhere have you been? Well, this plus an empty post is meaningless unless you can provide a good explanation! Actually, I've just been to an appointment at a local optician to check a bit of a problem with my blind eye. The young man who saw me is just out of University and was interested in my case and he and his supervisor were able to solve it and confirm that it was not dangerous. I ne
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6 weeks ago
Susan Doris
QuoteThank you for your candour. And thank you for your very interesting post. I can't think of anything more to add at present, but I'l keep reading! susan
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6 weeks ago
Susan Doris
Super post for which many thanks. I wish such ideas and words had been around for me to read when I was younger as my belief in God would not have hung around as long as it did! Susan Archaic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > QuoteThank you for your interesting reply. That > needing of a sense of control over the elements is > something I certainl
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6 weeks ago
Susan Doris
QuoteScience and religion are the same thing. They're both attempts to know the unknown.Agree of course, but the words and faith beliefs associated with religion separate it almost completely from science I think, whereas the practical knowledge gained from science is independently checkable.QuoteThey're methodologies. Not "things". Science isn't a body of knowledge. It's a process.A
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6 weeks ago
Susan Doris
QuoteWhy are you attacking her? Basically, I think it is because he can't bear the thought that I might just be right!!! :D Susan
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7 weeks ago
Susan Doris
No, it is not the religion that is serving the purpose, but human beings, whether they believe in the dogma of a particular religion or not. Do you think the people doing the helping would not do so without their religious belief? Why? Instead of another one or two-liner, appreciated though they are, it would bemuch more interesting to hear you elaborate more. Susan Susan Wheeler Wrote:
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7 weeks ago
Susan Doris
QuoteIf I was dictator of the world, those huge empty church buildings would be open year round day in day out for people to sleep in at night and get cared for. If there was such a person as Jesus, I think he would have liked that idea. ?Agree of course - who couldn't. If only people, and of course with funds, were available - and willing - to organise that, plus have plenty of cleaning ma
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7 weeks ago
Susan Doris
QuoteWhat you should do is check to see where you can eat if you are homeless in your town and see how many locations are churches and how many are not. Why? And a superficial comment will not be anywhere near sufficient for a response to that question. How does it show what religion is for, rather than showing that humans, most of them anyway care for others naturally Susan
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7 weeks ago
Susan Doris
It sounded very much as if you were proposing that religion was a separate necessity for natural selection rather than just one of the ideas that humans come up with. Susan Eddie Larry Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > QuoteSusan queried > > Quote > > Maybe religions are functions of natural > selection. > I'd say a definite no to
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7 weeks ago
Susan Doris
QuoteCan nature just ever be plainly wrong? No, not by any logical, rational thinking, since such a judgement is of course back to being a human idea.QuoteMaybe religions are functions of natural selection.I'd say a definite no to that one.Can you think of a reason why it might be? Susan
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7 weeks ago
Susan Doris
QuoteReligion serves as a space for society to understand God. An introduction, spirituality 101 basically. And most religions probably have most of it wrong.I ask myself, do I understand God? The answer is that I think I understand well how the ideas of gods and, as Archaic said, the ideas that made people think they could control or appease the natural events that caused them danger. Otherwise
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7 weeks ago
Susan Doris
QuoteBut I do think that it will take some kind of change in the global consciousness or zeitgeist, to use a clumsy term, to get people around the world to buy in to saving the planet on the scale needed. What would you call that? A belief system? Faith that we can turn our destruction around?No, I'd call it a sensible, practical, scientifically-based, and vitally necessary, project. QuoteI thin
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7 weeks ago
Susan Doris
Thank you - I have just listened through the wikipedia ppage on that group of people. The language aspects and the way it works sounds fascinating and great credit to the man who has studied and written about it. It sounds as if the Brazilian Government are trying to provide the good aspects of modern life, education and medical facilities, and I think that must be essential, but to be able to d
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7 weeks ago
Susan Doris
QuoteIt is not such a bad idea to call our planet Gaia, or mother earth and be a tiny bit religious about healing her. Agree, but think 'a tiny bit more positive/caring' would be preferable to 'religious'!QuoteIf there is no faith at all that it can be done, we humans along with many other species might not last very long, but some viruses and insects might survive, and I don't want to be reinca
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