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7 weeks ago
Laird Scranton
Open mind wrote regarding the unreasonability of contact between far flung cultures in ancient times: It's only limiting if we imagine that inter-culture contacts were the primary mode of dissemination of the material. The perspective put forward by the Dogon is one of deliberate global instruction in deep concepts of science in ancient times. We understand that for anyone capable of corr
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7 weeks ago
Laird Scranton
T Bird - I agree. But beyond that what's described by groups like the Dogon and the Buddhists is a globally instructed tradition by a quite capable group of ancient teachers. Jung's conundrum was over matching archetype myths, symbols, and themes among far flung cultures who are not reasonably thought to have had contact or cross-migration with each other. Symbolic elements such as use of t
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7 weeks ago
Laird Scranton
As I originally posted, a Tipi/Teepee is a documented form of a Mongolian Yurt or Ger, indistinguishable from a traditional Native American teepee. Its structural elements, alignment, and symbolism as related in a range of Native American tribes - as well as in the Mongolian shamanist tradition - could qualify it as a portable aligned shrine in the tradition of a Buddhist stupa or a Dogon gran
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7 weeks ago
Laird Scranton
Adrian Snodgrass - a leading authority on Buddhist architecture and symbolism - describes the structure and symbolism of a Tipi/Teepee as it's known to the Sioux, in his book Architecture, Time, and Eternity. Virtually all of the symbolic elements go along with archaic symbolism of the cosmology. For instance, alignment is to the cardinal points of north, south, east and west. The leftward sid
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7 weeks ago
Laird Scranton
Regarding the evolution of the Ger or Yurt, Audrey asked: What's the source of that image? That particular image has since been replaced in the source I worked from in my 2014 book China's Cosmological Prehistory, verified at the time of publication by my editor at Inner Traditions. Similar linked images can be found online through a simple scan. Meanwhile, here's a link to a good o
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7 weeks ago
Laird Scranton
Audrey - I'd say we're past the point of productive discussion. Thanks for the comments, though. - Laird
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7 weeks ago
Laird Scranton
Audrey wrote:' A teepee is functional. It's a brilliant portable home and is nothing like a Mongolian yurt. It's not a shrine, it was a home not a symbol. I get the impression you don't have the tiniest bit of knowledge on the American Indian. Here are the four forms of a Ger or Yurt. The leftmost version is actually called a Teepee. Please try not to be so absolutist in your opinion regard
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7 weeks ago
Laird Scranton
Audrey wrote: Such as you posting this image as electricity or some such nonsense? You've managed to take your pics down for some reason. You praise Griaule & Dieterlen using their book and images, yet you reject what they report. Such as this photo which they say is a "Drawing of the knots that attach the rope of the ark". Had you actually followed the drawing you would
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7 weeks ago
Laird Scranton
Audrey wrote: When carving in rock with a stone, there's not a whole lot of designs you can use. First off, there's good reason to think that various Native American traditions came out of the same symbolic system the Dogon and Buddhists preserve. A teepee is a structural and symbolic match for a Mongolian yurt, and reasonably interpreted as a portable aligned shrined in the stupa tradition
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7 weeks ago
Laird Scranton
Audrey wrote: So me pointing out facts is a potshot. In essence; anyone who questions you is merely taking a potshot. You don't have to talk, there are many a reader here who will think for themselves even though they don't post. I'm putting out the info so the readers can see what the wizard has behind the curtain and come to their own conclusion. It has become obvious, or should be, that
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7 weeks ago
Laird Scranton
The Dogon cosmological phonetic for time or temporality is Ga. What's likely recreated with these incisions is an equivalent to the Egyptian shrine glyph, pictured here, which appears in archaic Egyptian hieroglyphic names of sanctuary sites and celebrations. Budge assigns it the phonetic of Ga. The cosmological phonetic for Sirius as an icon of nonmateriality is Si. In that context, we can inter
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7 weeks ago
Laird Scranton
Open Mind wrote: That's certainly the same design element. Are there any theories as to what any of those sources were meant to communicate? If I hadn't seen that common design, I'd likely dismiss it as a simple artistic composition separation element, but as such, it would be a specific unique artistic impression of the particular artist, which means it would be a failing of that intention to
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7 weeks ago
Laird Scranton
Audrey - If you'd like to discuss substantive aspects of what I've posted about, I'm happy to talk. I don't normally respond to potshots. - Laird
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7 weeks ago
Laird Scranton
Inscriptions on the leftmost pillar of a Dogon Togu Na meeting house in Diankabou, Mali (c. 1976), fairly well cinch a link to a very similar inscription found at the Skara Brae vilage on Orkney (c. 3200 BC) and on a pillar at Gobekli Tepe (c. 9000 BC).The entire continuum spans one long tradition. Dogon Togu Na from Diankabou Inscription from Skara Brae Village Gobekli
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7 weeks ago
Laird Scranton
To Seasmith - Griaule was widely considered the premiere European anthropologist of his day. Absolutely his preference was to film or photograph an artifact or symbol, or to reproduce what were often presented to him as sand drawings. In some cases, such as those involving the house of the high Arou priest in the most studiously remote of localities, no European was going to be allowed to go i
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2 months ago
Laird Scranton
Drew wrote: What do you reckon, Laird...to adequately understand the past, one must envision the future? The way I see things, understanding the past becomes a rudder for moving into the future. Not so much the other way around for me. - Laird
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2 months ago
Laird Scranton
Drew wrote: 'Unveiling unconventional magnetism at the surface of Sr2RuO4' Quite revolutionary and full of wonderful potential. Apologies for inability to provide direct link Thanks for this, Drew. I was able to find links to the paper. - Laird
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2 months ago
Laird Scranton
Drew wrote: On one point though... next generation computing will use a trinary code, which seems to be the essence of creation at its heart... there either is or there isn't but there's uncertainty until it's experienced. Imo, that's the other point to the mystical triplet in so many beliefs. The same is true with the Dogon system, and it comes down to a sensible circumstance. The first
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2 months ago
Laird Scranton
Dogon culture preserves societal elements that are consistent predictors of what's been documented in ancient Egypt at around 3000 BC. The Dogon granary shrine, which is arguably an archaic form of stupa, includes self-confirming math. The base plan is measured with a diameter of 20 cubits, rising to a square flat roof that measures 8 cubits per side. The 64 square-cubit area of the roof corre
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2 months ago
Laird Scranton
Drew wrote: But on a more serious note...do you recognise the essence of deep meditation affecting shamans etc, whether via psychotropic substances or sensory deprivation? Samkhya rests on the idea that universes form in pairs - a nonmaterial one that has perfect knowledge but an inability to take action, and a material one that has imperfect knowledge but full ability to act. Consequently
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2 months ago
Laird Scranton
corpuscles wrote: Dogon word definitions independently confirm Budge's view of the Egyptian hieroglyphic language. We have an entire dictionary of words, independently documented, that uphold Budge's view. Beyond that, we have agreement with languages of numerous North African tribes. It's the modern Egyptological view that's flawed. - Laird
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2 months ago
Laird Scranton
Warwick wrote: They like many social groups appreciate balance The AE s called it Ma'at The east have yin and yang The Sioux see life as a circle The Buddhists are one with everything Gods love is defined by the Devils hate. The Dogon recognized balance Cultural Anthropology 101 The Dogon and Buddhists credit those kinds of similarities of outlook to the very circu
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2 months ago
Laird Scranton
Open mind wrote: I'm curious why your posting here and not Thunderbolts forum? Your sure to have far more insight on these concepts there than here. While there's overlap between the Dogon and Electric Universe perspectives, it's far easier to present the Dogon material in a context where there's not a pre-existing perspective to be bucked on many of the same issues. "Here's a direct
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2 months ago
Laird Scranton
Dr. Troglodyte wrote: Hello Laird Scranton; above you wrote: ”Budge treats the word as a definition of time, but cosmologically it’s more than that. Substituting concepts for glyphs, the word reads “That which magnetism bends/shapes, followed by the time glyph. The broader outlook is that Einstein’s fabric of space/time, which he says is warped by gravity, is actually just time.” The s
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2 months ago
Laird Scranton
Open mind wrote: Interesting idea that time is related or effected or causes an effect on gravity, although I don't comprehend that. Einstein's famous formula E-MC2 necessitates that time slow as mass increases. We know with certainty that the ratio of mass to energy in the universe has been progressively increasing. Had time actually been progressively slowing, it would look to us as if th
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2 months ago
Laird Scranton
Open mind wrote: the Safire Project are attempting that, but as successful as they might be, their paradigm requires some very challenging abandonment's to embrace, like the following: No black holes No dark Energy No Dark matter gravity centric cosmology is flawed Large Hydron Collider is biggest waste of money Einstein's theories are flawed No Big Bang Etc. Its hard to imagine w
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2 months ago
Laird Scranton
27. Re: FYI
Warwick wrote: "Yes, but a more comprehensive dictionary entry includes other definitions, including the one I intended." That's a pretty good example of ARBITRARY deduction You're saying that citing a dictionary entry that supports the actual meaning I intended is somehow arbitrary? I was taught that was the entirely proper way to justify a disputed usage. Or are you sayi
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2 months ago
Laird Scranton
28. Re: FYI
Open mind wrote: "The Thai language came from Sanskrit(the original buddhist texts in India are in Sanskrit) which in it's self is thought to have come from ancient Egyptian as the roots (both represent nature and the stars)" Some of the translated words are discussed such as the following: Element Decoration Gravity Valleys Comet Meteorite Natural Machine Mummy Vines ac
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2 months ago
Laird Scranton
Open mind wrote: I realize you're not a fan, but the Safire Project has created matter transmuted on the annode of their plasma chamber. They've had it verified by their own, and independant spectroscopy results. Does this count? Seems like it's in the same ballpark. When we get down to the domain of virtual particles, to my way of thinking magnetism and electricity are pretty much the
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2 months ago
Laird Scranton
Corpuscles wrote It seems you are hinting that the aliens or whoever (???) did actually sit down with Ancient Egyptians with Dogon people present to explain the operation of a large Hadron collider! That is way above my pay grade, and definitely any primitive tribe , so I suppose it is no wonder their later doodlings on wooden doors, look nothing at all like it? I’ve encountered no referenc
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