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Thomas Brophy wrote:

> Interesting points cladking,
> Actually I had a laugh when I read your "Even "I think
> therefore, I am" is taken as a working hypothesis rather than
> "Truth" itself. " --I am now reading (and planning to use in a
> course) philosopher Roy Bhaskar's "Reflections on
> Meta-Reality". Bhaskar therein makes a very good case for a
> new philosophy of Reality in which "thinking" is not the
> ultimate ground of being...

I'm not familiar with Bhaskar but just read the Wiki.

This is pretty close to my understanding of the nature of the easiest way to understand my place in the world and nature itself from a personal standpoint. Essentially there's no real alternative to simply assuming that the world is exactly as we percieve it but we must always be on guard against misperception. Even if the assumption is wrong it's of no importance at all because the alternatives result in no gains in understanding the real world of nature or the real world of perception. It behooves us to always remember this particular assumption just as we should try to remember all the axioms and definitions we use to comprehend nature, cognition, and ourselves.

I believe that this kind of thinking will tend to lead to a general understanding of reality and that a generalist will always be more able to use his knowledge all at once than a specialist. It would be possible though to specilize from a genalist standpoint and, no doubt, some have. More to the point though and more on topic is that I believe this is exactly the same understanding and perspective that people had when zep tepi occurred (whatever exactly it was). Indeed, I believe ancient people all thought this way and had very little choice in the matter because language itself was metaphysics. Language arose from nature which was the nouns and verbs. The "gods" were actually aspects of nature, natural phenomena, rather than independent consciousnesses. Because our language is so different the ancient language has been opaque to our understanding.

I believe I understand the ancient writing but in no place is "zep tepi" actually defined or given enough defining characteristics by context to understand its intended meaning. All I have on the specific question is another hypothesis.

Perhaps, I should be looking for some of Roy Bhaskar's writing. Thanks.



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Zep Tepi 463 loveritas 07-Mar-13 11:01
Re: Zep Tepi 295 PB Bytes 08-Mar-13 15:17
Re: Zep Tepi 291 loveritas 08-Mar-13 20:31
Mostly offline next couple of days 325 Thomas Brophy 08-Mar-13 23:57
Re: Mostly offline next couple of days 265 loveritas 09-Mar-13 00:34
Re:the waves of which dashed in powerless fury against its base. 303 Thunderbird 10-Mar-13 20:18
Nice To See You're Back 327 loveritas 12-Mar-13 04:22
Re: Nice To See You're Back 305 Thomas Brophy 16-Mar-13 04:52
GHMB 'Decorum' and Other Issues 301 Dr. Lew Graham 16-Mar-13 14:03
Re: GHMB 'Decorum' and Other Issues 301 Thomas Brophy 16-Mar-13 20:18
High on Ego 272 loveritas 16-Mar-13 21:59
and self righteous arrogance 305 Sirius7237 16-Mar-13 22:18
Re: GHMB 'Decorum' and Other Issues 326 Bobajot 17-Mar-13 02:15
Re: GHMB 'Decorum' and Other Issues 303 Aine 17-Mar-13 22:04
Relying Upon One's Discernment 351 Dr. Lew Graham 18-Mar-13 01:35
Re: Relying Upon One's Discernment 829 cladking 18-Mar-13 20:58
Atrophy of Discernment 339 Dr. Lew Graham 18-Mar-13 21:34
Re: Atrophy of Discernment 341 cladking 18-Mar-13 21:59
A Miracle? 319 Dr. Lew Graham 18-Mar-13 23:42
Accidently hit "quote" instead of post and failed to correct 324 cladking 19-Mar-13 00:20
Miracles? 284 Dr. Lew Graham 19-Mar-13 00:30
Re: A Miracle? 217 PB Bytes 19-Mar-13 00:47
Typo 322 Dr. Lew Graham 19-Mar-13 01:00
Sarcasm? 298 Sirius7237 19-Mar-13 03:04
More Hypocrisy 301 loveritas 19-Mar-13 05:32
Re: Typo 280 PB Bytes 19-Mar-13 03:26
yes, maybe thinking is not ultimate ground of being 291 Thomas Brophy 18-Mar-13 23:03
Re: yes, maybe thinking is not ultimate ground of being 306 cladking 19-Mar-13 02:16
I addressed your question on Zep Tepi, no? 292 Thomas Brophy 18-Mar-13 04:41
Re: I addressed your question on Zep Tepi, no? 307 loveritas 18-Mar-13 06:07
Re: I addressed your question on Zep Tepi, no? 373 Thomas Brophy 18-Mar-13 22:30
Re: I addressed your question on Zep Tepi, no? 341 loveritas 18-Mar-13 22:38
I'll Rephrase the Question 317 loveritas 19-Mar-13 20:42
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 313 Aine 19-Mar-13 21:37
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 315 loveritas 20-Mar-13 11:54
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 323 Thomas Brophy 20-Mar-13 17:47
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 329 Thunderbird 20-Mar-13 18:29
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 308 loveritas 20-Mar-13 21:33
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 301 Spiros 20-Mar-13 22:13
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 338 Laird Scranton 21-Mar-13 16:50
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 344 Spiros 21-Mar-13 19:16
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 333 Audrey 24-Mar-13 04:25
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 300 Thomas Brophy 24-Mar-13 06:10
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 263 loveritas 24-Mar-13 06:54
Starry Night Pro calculation still not clarified 349 Thomas Brophy 29-Mar-13 22:02
Re: Starry Night Pro calculation still not clarified 324 loveritas 30-Mar-13 02:05
Re: What if?...... 288 Thunderbird 30-Mar-13 20:56
Re: What if?...... 284 loveritas 30-Mar-13 23:55
Re: Zawiyet el-Aryan meridian observation shaft/Water clock 535 Thunderbird 31-Mar-13 03:37
Re: Zawiyet el-Aryan meridian observation shaft/Water clock 316 loveritas 31-Mar-13 07:56
Bond of Heaven and Earth 474 loveritas 01-Apr-13 01:25
Djed-raising ropes? 322 Thomas Brophy 01-Apr-13 01:40
Re: Djed-raising ropes? 329 loveritas 01-Apr-13 05:18
Re: Djed-raising ropes? 300 Thomas Brophy 01-Apr-13 06:47
Re: Djed-raising ropes? 324 loveritas 01-Apr-13 06:58
Re: Djed-raising ropes? 309 Thomas Brophy 01-Apr-13 07:05
Re: Djed-raising ropes? 294 loveritas 01-Apr-13 07:11
Re: Djed-raising ropes? 316 Thomas Brophy 01-Apr-13 07:24
Re: Ability....and transitions of time. 315 Thunderbird 01-Apr-13 23:19
Re: Ability....and transitions of time. 290 loveritas 01-Apr-13 23:53
Re: King and Queen Ascending/Descending 380 Thunderbird 02-Apr-13 20:07
Re: King and Queen Ascending/Descending 283 loveritas 02-Apr-13 22:37
Re: Bond of Heaven and Earth 339 Thunderbird 01-Apr-13 03:55
Some basics... 324 Thomas Brophy 31-Mar-13 00:16
Re: Starry Night Pro calculation still not clarified 330 Spiros 30-Mar-13 06:30
Help ask Starry Night 303 Thomas Brophy 31-Mar-13 00:58
Re: Help ask Starry Night 384 Spiros 31-Mar-13 17:58
Starry Night Pro 'fesses up to precession calculation errors 882 Thomas Brophy 02-Apr-13 19:29
Re: Starry Night Pro 'fesses up to precession calculation errors 367 Spiros 02-Apr-13 20:59
Re: Starry Night Pro 'fesses up to precession calculation errors 301 Thomas Brophy 02-Apr-13 21:22
Starry Night Pro precession calculation fix delayed 372 Thomas Brophy 10-May-13 22:39
Re: Starry Night Pro precession calculation fix delayed 324 loveritas 11-May-13 01:22
Re: Starry Night Pro precession calculation fix delayed 310 Spiros 13-May-13 22:10
What is your culminating declination? 305 Thomas Brophy 13-May-13 22:49
Re: What is your culminating declination? 292 Spiros 13-May-13 23:27
Re: What is your culminating declination? 314 Thomas Brophy 14-May-13 00:13
Re: What is your culminating declination? 265 Spiros 19-May-13 01:31
Re: I'll Rephrase the Question 395 Thomas Brophy 21-Mar-13 04:20
Einstein Not Necessary 296 loveritas 21-Mar-13 06:37
Memory & Einstein 293 loveritas 24-Mar-13 23:10
Re: Memory & Einstein 332 Thomas Brophy 24-Mar-13 23:43
Re: Zep Tepi 301 Eddie Larry 14-May-13 03:45
Re: Zep Tepi 311 Sirfiroth 15-May-13 02:15
Re: Zep Tepi 272 Eddie Larry 15-May-13 03:02


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