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lobo-hotei wrote:

>
> Again, saying circles drawn on distorted pictures is evidence
> of how the AE DID it doesn't wash. Feet and inches were
> "definitely" used due to number crunching ISN'T evidence. Those
> are wishful "possibles" until some real cultural evidence is
> put forth.
> I have seen many "experts" make claims and then resort to their
> claim as "proof/evidence" of the claim being real. Those
> usually don't last at a place that wants evidence instead of
> special pleading or Sesame Street(play nice and everyone gets a
> trophy) mindset.
>
> Thanks for proving a point. Special pleading to "win" points. I
> used to post here lots more then I do now. Got tired of no
> evidence and lots of blind-faith beliefs passed off as evidence
> and any who didn't agree with it being attacked and/or banned
> for not "playing nice".
>

Evidence, evidence, evidence... you demand evidence for alternative theories yet provide - or ask - none for the accepted orthodox theory. That is your HOM upbringing at play there. Double standards.

Personally - this is absolutely the truth - I like my history with its feet on the ground. No aliens, no powerplants, no super-advanced Atlantis which managed to get conveniently completely lost. Pelloponnisian War Athens and Rome under the Julio-Claudians is my comfort zone - documented, corroborated, tangible. Post 4th Dynasty Egypt (or what we call 4th Dynasty) I bow to your orthodoxy; the tombs are tombs, the civilisation is as we know it. Fascinating, stable, culturally rich over centuries.

But Giza is different. It doesn't fit. The recieved wisdom is to look at it as a necropolis because - looking back through history with its many tombs - it's easy to squeeze the physical evidence into an assumed cultural narrative. But an assumed cultural narrative is not evidence, it is a refracting lens. If someone could convince me that the Giza pyramids were built when orthodoxy say they were built, as tombs - that's all I would need, some convincing evidence, not the polluted view tainted by what certainly came later - then I would not even bother with forums like this. I am not interested in aliens, or supposed lost technologies, or even ushering in the great Age of Aquarius and universal human love and enlightenment,

Gary and Scott's new theory actually fits the limited available evidence in many ways better than the increasingly threadbare tombs theory.

Thankfully, I'm allowed to say that on here, and no fussing, tutting Moderator will remove my post for uttering this "heresy".

As a HOM stalwart, I respect fully your right to rubbish my views, but - again - at least we engage on a level playing field here. I am in no doubt you can hold your own in both arenas.

Not all HOM's veterans adapt so well. The chicken coop of orthodoxy might be great as a comfort zone, but it gradually deadens the ability to debate and meeting the real, outside world head on without the aid of Mother Hem can come as a bit of a shock. As the saying goes: one day you're cock of the walk, the next you're a feather duster.



Lonely Angel


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The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 654 Scott Creighton 03-Feb-12 15:43
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 296 Gary Osborn 03-Feb-12 17:08
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 254 Ahatmose 03-Feb-12 17:47
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 278 Scott Creighton 04-Feb-12 00:17
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 351 Ahatmose 04-Feb-12 05:39
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 234 Scott Creighton 04-Feb-12 10:18
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 268 drew 04-Feb-12 14:14
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 320 Gary Osborn 03-Feb-12 18:00
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 343 Spiros 03-Feb-12 18:15
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 337 Scott Creighton 03-Feb-12 19:05
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 330 Spiros 03-Feb-12 19:41
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 342 Scott Creighton 03-Feb-12 22:56
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 195 Spiros 04-Feb-12 17:08
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 254 Ahatmose 04-Feb-12 17:52
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 258 Dr. Troglodyte 04-Feb-12 19:43
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 336 Ahatmose 04-Feb-12 20:33
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 270 Dr. Troglodyte 04-Feb-12 20:48
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 314 Ahatmose 04-Feb-12 21:10
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 372 Spiros 04-Feb-12 21:23
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 303 Ahatmose 04-Feb-12 21:31
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 335 Spiros 04-Feb-12 21:38
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 306 Dr. Troglodyte 04-Feb-12 21:27
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 351 Ahatmose 04-Feb-12 21:45
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 299 Dr. Troglodyte 04-Feb-12 22:03
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 260 Scott Creighton 04-Feb-12 18:00
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 289 Ahatmose 04-Feb-12 18:08
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 257 Spiros 06-Feb-12 21:57
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 267 Scott Creighton 06-Feb-12 23:58
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 245 Spiros 07-Feb-12 07:04
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 288 Scott Creighton 08-Feb-12 12:00
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 273 Ahatmose 08-Feb-12 14:04
Addendum 266 Ahatmose 08-Feb-12 15:12
Re: Addendum 313 Scott Creighton 08-Feb-12 15:27
Re: Addendum 254 Ahatmose 08-Feb-12 16:10
Re: Addendum 227 Scott Creighton 08-Feb-12 16:28
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 241 Spiros 08-Feb-12 14:19
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 268 Morten 08-Feb-12 18:37
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 318 Spiros 08-Feb-12 19:08
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 282 Scott Creighton 09-Feb-12 14:05
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 281 Morten 09-Feb-12 16:03
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 272 Scott Creighton 09-Feb-12 16:41
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 208 Morten 09-Feb-12 21:44
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 399 Scott Creighton 09-Feb-12 23:48
Weighing the arguments 380 Morten 10-Feb-12 08:31
Re: Weighing the arguments 325 LonelyAngel 10-Feb-12 20:12
Re: Weighing the arguments 315 Ahatmose 10-Feb-12 20:19
Re: Sacred Chicken Day : ) 346 Thunderbird 11-Feb-12 03:42
Re: Sacred Chicken Day : ) 325 LonelyAngel 13-Feb-12 22:04
Re: Sacred Chicken Day : ) 351 lobo-hotei 14-Feb-12 03:59
Re: Sacred Chicken Day : ) 275 LonelyAngel 14-Feb-12 21:04
Re: Sacred Chicken Day : ) 254 Ahatmose 14-Feb-12 23:48
Re: Sacred Chicken Day : ) 322 lobo-hotei 15-Feb-12 15:28
Re: circles drawn on distorted pictures is evidence 309 Thunderbird 15-Feb-12 18:21
Re: Sacred Chicken Day : ) 367 LonelyAngel 15-Feb-12 22:07
Re: Weighing the arguments 271 lobo-hotei 14-Feb-12 04:04
Re: Weighing the arguments 397 LonelyAngel 16-Feb-12 20:01
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 330 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-12 23:55
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 382 Spiros 08-Feb-12 16:00
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 329 Scott Creighton 08-Feb-12 16:41
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 282 Spiros 08-Feb-12 18:23
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 312 Morten 08-Feb-12 19:30
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 345 Spiros 08-Feb-12 20:17
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 311 Ahatmose 03-Feb-12 18:10
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 381 Nick L 03-Feb-12 20:27
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 369 Laird Scranton 03-Feb-12 21:28
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 292 Ahatmose 03-Feb-12 21:34
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 275 Gary Osborn 04-Feb-12 00:08
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 321 Morten 04-Feb-12 06:03
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 275 Scott Creighton 04-Feb-12 10:08
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 344 Gary Osborn 04-Feb-12 00:04
GIZA THOERIES - COMPARING ACCURACY 368 Spiros 04-Feb-12 15:21
Re: GIZA THOERIES - COMPARING ACCURACY 176 Ahatmose 04-Feb-12 17:52
Re: GIZA THOERIES - COMPARING ACCURACY 348 Spiros 04-Feb-12 18:09
Re: GIZA THOERIES - COMPARING ACCURACY 325 Ahatmose 04-Feb-12 18:16
Re: GIZA THOERIES - COMPARING ACCURACY 367 Spiros 04-Feb-12 19:06
Re: GIZA THOERIES - COMPARING ACCURACY 297 Ahatmose 04-Feb-12 20:33
Re: GIZA THOERIES - COMPARING ACCURACY 293 Spiros 04-Feb-12 21:28
Re: GIZA THOERIES - COMPARING ACCURACY 306 Ahatmose 04-Feb-12 21:49
Re: GIZA THOERIES - COMPARING ACCURACY 286 Spiros 04-Feb-12 22:00
Re: GIZA THOERIES - COMPARING ACCURACY 251 Ahatmose 04-Feb-12 22:37
Re: GIZA THOERIES - COMPARING ACCURACY 421 Spiros 04-Feb-12 22:42
Re: GIZA THOERIES - COMPARING ACCURACY 276 Ahatmose 04-Feb-12 22:47
Re: GIZA THOERIES - COMPARING ACCURACY 284 Spiros 04-Feb-12 22:59
Re: GIZA THOERIES - COMPARING ACCURACY 348 Ahatmose 04-Feb-12 23:50
sorry 275 Spiros 04-Feb-12 20:07
correction 276 Spiros 09-Feb-12 08:47
Re: A question 26.5/23.5 417 Thunderbird 04-Feb-12 22:48
Re: A question 26.5/23.5 371 Spiros 04-Feb-12 23:22
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 295 Ahatmose 09-Feb-12 15:50
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 308 Scott Creighton 09-Feb-12 16:53
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 271 Ahatmose 09-Feb-12 16:57
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 292 Scott Creighton 09-Feb-12 17:11
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 266 Ahatmose 09-Feb-12 17:14
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 306 Scott Creighton 09-Feb-12 17:25
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 317 lobo-hotei 14-Feb-12 04:06
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 283 Spiros 09-Feb-12 20:24
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 325 Ahatmose 09-Feb-12 21:00
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 353 Spiros 10-Feb-12 20:43
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 184 Ahatmose 10-Feb-12 21:00
The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint is smudged 425 Ahatmose 10-Feb-12 04:09
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint is smudged 272 Scott Creighton 10-Feb-12 11:13
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint is smudged 280 Ahatmose 10-Feb-12 14:51
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint is smudged 281 Scott Creighton 10-Feb-12 15:03
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint is smudged 306 Ahatmose 10-Feb-12 15:18
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint is smudged 300 Scott Creighton 10-Feb-12 16:08
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint is smudged 206 Ahatmose 10-Feb-12 16:15
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint is smudged 284 Ahatmose 10-Feb-12 15:52
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Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 377 Gary Osborn 10-Feb-12 17:56
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 301 Ahatmose 10-Feb-12 18:01
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 328 Gary Osborn 10-Feb-12 18:09
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 290 Ahatmose 10-Feb-12 18:14
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 355 Gary Osborn 10-Feb-12 18:36
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 296 Gary Osborn 10-Feb-12 19:30
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 327 Gary Osborn 10-Feb-12 19:39
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 318 Ahatmose 10-Feb-12 19:58
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 342 Gary Osborn 10-Feb-12 20:27
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 287 Ahatmose 10-Feb-12 20:32
Mod Caution > Ahatmose 363 lukehancock 11-Feb-12 16:40
Re: The Shemsu Hor 766 Thunderbird 11-Feb-12 04:20
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 309 Ahatmose 10-Feb-12 18:18
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Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 302 Ahatmose 10-Feb-12 20:59
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 286 Scott Creighton 12-Feb-12 12:51
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 257 Glanymor1948 12-Feb-12 13:04
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 282 Scott Creighton 12-Feb-12 13:06
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Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 264 Scott Creighton 13-Feb-12 17:32
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 301 Ahatmose 13-Feb-12 17:44
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 330 Scott Creighton 13-Feb-12 17:53
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 285 LonelyAngel 13-Feb-12 20:02
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 271 Scott Creighton 14-Feb-12 00:55
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 265 Ahatmose 14-Feb-12 03:33
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 261 Scott Creighton 14-Feb-12 11:38
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 241 Ahatmose 14-Feb-12 13:16
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 417 Scott Creighton 14-Feb-12 13:39
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 287 Spiros 14-Feb-12 17:36
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 286 Scott Creighton 14-Feb-12 17:50
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 287 Spiros 14-Feb-12 18:04
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 294 Spiros 14-Feb-12 18:47
Re: Ogy/Don 364 Thunderbird 14-Feb-12 20:51
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 274 Scott Creighton 14-Feb-12 23:23
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 312 Ahatmose 15-Feb-12 05:51
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 287 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-12 11:32
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 251 Ahatmose 15-Feb-12 14:26
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 366 lobo-hotei 15-Feb-12 15:37
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 282 lobo-hotei 15-Feb-12 15:35
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 331 Spiros 15-Feb-12 09:04
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 274 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-12 12:34
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 292 Spiros 15-Feb-12 14:22
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 296 Ahatmose 15-Feb-12 14:50
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 268 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-12 15:07
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 312 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-12 15:11
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 345 lobo-hotei 15-Feb-12 15:30
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 267 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-12 15:45
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 261 LonelyAngel 14-Feb-12 21:14
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 359 Ahatmose 15-Feb-12 00:04
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 299 LonelyAngel 15-Feb-12 21:40
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 379 Ahatmose 15-Feb-12 22:01
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 310 Ahatmose 15-Feb-12 23:32
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 293 LonelyAngel 16-Feb-12 20:08
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 363 Ahatmose 17-Feb-12 02:13
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 335 Ahatmose 17-Feb-12 03:15
Re: Question Don 309 Thunderbird 17-Feb-12 18:28
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Fabulous Flying Khufus :-) 279 Audrey 18-Feb-12 03:53
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Re: Fabulous Flying Khufus :-) 272 Audrey 19-Feb-12 21:49
Re: Fabulous Flying Khufus :-) 126 Thunderbird 21-Feb-12 03:52
Re: Question Don 277 Ahatmose 18-Feb-12 04:29
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 339 Spiros 14-Feb-12 11:36
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 283 Scott Creighton 14-Feb-12 11:48
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint Removed 259 Ahatmose 14-Feb-12 03:30
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Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 268 Ahatmose 15-Feb-12 15:03
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 288 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-12 15:32
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 300 Ahatmose 15-Feb-12 15:53
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 280 Spiros 15-Feb-12 15:58
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 202 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-12 16:13
Re: The Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint 386 Ahatmose 15-Feb-12 16:33
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