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Hi Scott

Scott Creighton wrote:

>
> SC: We are discussing Recovery Vaults which typically would be
> quite different from a normal granary in that many other useful
> items would be stored e.g. vases, pots, plates, tools, weapons,
> important texts etc, etc. And seeds, of course.
>
The descriptions here can equally be applied to the Ziggurats of Babylon. The Babylonian Ziggurats housed 'vases, pots, plates, tools, weapons, important texts etc, etc. And seeds, of course.'. Even if we look to the Temples of Ra, which were huge solid constructs they were known to have stored seeds/grain and plenty of other garb from your list.

> SC: A typical ancient granary would not match the colossal size
> of the Pyramid Recovery Vaults. The Recovery Vaults had to be
> made highly visible in a barren landscape so that they could be
> easily found. Their internal storage chambers would require to
> be sealed with considerable security/blocking measures to
> deter/prevent casual looting. You would not find such heavy
> security measures in a typical granary.

The Babylonian food storage and distribution centers were absolutely massive and very well fortified. Excepting the size of the three Giza pyramids, I guess the Zigs would be at least around the same scale as the rest. Most food storage has to be sealed otherwise it would not protect the produce from mould, rats or bugs. Defensive measures would be a wise precaution since the people turn to these stores in times of famine or crop failure.

You get why I am asking for distinguishing features. Are you trying to change the view of these other ancient massive food storage and distribution centers to RVs as well? Or do you think there was a dual purpose both for ongoing and in the event of a catastrophe?


> SC: There are numerous silos around Djoser’s pyramid complex.
> Also, there are vast storage galleries a short distance to the
> west of G2.
>
Ancient Egypt was the bread basket of the ancient world, this would require absolutely massive sets of storage facilities, surely?
>
> SC: The large cache of wheat and barley seed found under the
> Step Pyramid (Saqqara) seem to have been perfectly preserved
> i.e. there does not seem to have been any damage by water
> ingress. Perhaps this is why all the Recovery Vaults were
> placed on high plateaus to guard against the rising Nile. The
> tightly fitted casing stones would also have been protection
> against rising waters. There is also good evidence to suggest
> that the items stored in the GP were placed there from the top
> of the pyramid (i.e. before the KC ceiling was set in place.).
> The three granite blocking slabs in the Ante Chamber would
> essentially hermetically seal the Grand Gallery.
>
I think your case is strong for seed storage on the step structures, in particular ones with access. These also have a food processing aspect in their original forms. I think less so in the case of Cheops. For a start the KC had 'air vents'/shafts or are you suggesting these were hermetically sealed. It would prove a huge leap of faith (maybe thats what you are saying) 'for the AE's to build that structure, put seeds in it and never look again. There were not piles of seeds found within the GP structures anyway. I hope you are not going to point to looters walking off with vases of seeds.
According to most engineers that have looked at the GP pyramids water was somehow involved at least to the level of the QC. This would be a disaster for food storage. The tightly fitted casing stones would keep the water inside the structure since these engineers posit it came from the well shaft within. Cladking has it rising to 60-70ft above the plateau as you know.
Sealed or tightly fitting granite boxes would be excellent for this storage task. Are you not turning to those found below ground for support?

On the prophetic side, I guess you have not found a mechanic, but a series of structure alignments to dates. I hope the 3rd date is not wednesday week, I am busy that day, lol.

Regards

Chris



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Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 666 Scott Creighton 01-Feb-12 18:39
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 261 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 05:35
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 275 Scott Creighton 02-Feb-12 13:38
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 251 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 14:11
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 260 Scott Creighton 02-Feb-12 14:29
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 261 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 14:53
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 271 Scott Creighton 02-Feb-12 15:20
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 261 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 15:31
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 269 Scott Creighton 02-Feb-12 16:01
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 283 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 16:27
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 258 Scott Creighton 02-Feb-12 16:48
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 267 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 16:59
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 253 Scott Creighton 02-Feb-12 17:19
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 254 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 17:35
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 238 Scott Creighton 02-Feb-12 17:54
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 241 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 18:07
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 346 Scott Creighton 02-Feb-12 18:25
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 223 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 19:02
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 257 Gary Osborn 02-Feb-12 19:12
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 251 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 19:31
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 255 Gary Osborn 02-Feb-12 21:39
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 240 Scott Creighton 02-Feb-12 19:56
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 257 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 22:08
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 284 Scott Creighton 03-Feb-12 00:04
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 248 Ahatmose 03-Feb-12 00:14
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 242 Scott Creighton 03-Feb-12 00:25
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 262 Ahatmose 03-Feb-12 00:36
Re: Finding a starting point 262 Thunderbird 03-Feb-12 00:52
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 241 Audrey 03-Feb-12 02:41
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 205 Ahatmose 03-Feb-12 02:47
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 243 Ahatmose 03-Feb-12 02:54
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 216 Scott Creighton 03-Feb-12 10:02
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 275 Gary Osborn 02-Feb-12 16:57
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 186 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 17:43
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 232 Gary Osborn 02-Feb-12 18:13
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 257 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 18:20
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 247 Gary Osborn 02-Feb-12 18:28
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 270 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 19:11
BREAKING NEWS 242 Spiros 02-Feb-12 20:35
Re: BREAKING NEWS 249 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 22:12
Re: BREAKING NEWS 254 Spiros 02-Feb-12 22:40
Re: BREAKING NEWS 276 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 22:45
Re: BREAKING NEWS 270 Spiros 03-Feb-12 13:06
Re: BREAKING NEWS 265 Ahatmose 03-Feb-12 20:26
addendum 284 Ahatmose 03-Feb-12 21:13
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 253 cladking 03-Feb-12 00:52
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 271 Audrey 03-Feb-12 03:23
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 259 Ahatmose 03-Feb-12 03:37
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 271 Audrey 03-Feb-12 05:36
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 319 Spiros 02-Feb-12 15:13
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 280 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 15:50
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 262 Spiros 02-Feb-12 20:55
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 225 Ahatmose 02-Feb-12 15:53
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 279 Gary Osborn 02-Feb-12 16:01
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 247 Spiros 02-Feb-12 19:58
the 727 AD alignment 243 Spiros 02-Feb-12 20:17
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 374 NetWorkAngel 03-Feb-12 04:49
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 255 Audrey 03-Feb-12 05:44
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 384 NetWorkAngel 03-Feb-12 05:48
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 290 Scott Creighton 03-Feb-12 12:35
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 250 Chris Jordan 03-Feb-12 13:13
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 278 Scott Creighton 03-Feb-12 14:43
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 287 Chris Jordan 03-Feb-12 18:12
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 252 Scott Creighton 03-Feb-12 18:50
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 272 Chris Jordan 03-Feb-12 19:30
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 254 Chris Jordan 04-Feb-12 19:24
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 310 Lothur 03-Feb-12 19:50
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 282 PsycheDelia Smith 03-Feb-12 21:10
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 289 Lothur 04-Feb-12 01:22
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 286 Scott Creighton 04-Feb-12 15:14
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 295 Lothur 04-Feb-12 16:28
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 261 Audrey 04-Feb-12 06:39
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 263 Scott Creighton 04-Feb-12 12:06
Re: RVT vs Standard seed/grain storage. 318 Lothur 04-Feb-12 16:25
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 263 Morten 04-Feb-12 03:59
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 275 Scott Creighton 04-Feb-12 14:47
The Dialogue of Ipuur 251 Morten 04-Feb-12 18:25
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 249 Scott Creighton 04-Feb-12 18:34
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 268 Morten 04-Feb-12 19:05
Exploratory or argumentative? 272 drrayeye 04-Feb-12 22:46
Re: Exploratory or argumentative? 239 Morten 05-Feb-12 11:02
Re: Exploratory or argumentative? 278 drrayeye 05-Feb-12 13:28
Re: Exploratory or argumentative? 289 Thunderbird 05-Feb-12 18:27
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 261 Gary Osborn 04-Feb-12 23:31
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 269 magisterchessmutt 05-Feb-12 02:46
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 276 Gary Osborn 05-Feb-12 14:29
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 260 magisterchessmutt 05-Feb-12 17:46
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 363 Gary Osborn 05-Feb-12 17:52
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 218 Morten 05-Feb-12 10:39
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 301 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-12 14:48
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 256 Gary Osborn 05-Feb-12 16:07
Re: The Dialogue of Ipuur 475 cladking 05-Feb-12 16:59
Pocket Fisherman ... 301 jnisbet 04-Feb-12 08:38
Re: Pocket Fisherman ... 250 Scott Creighton 04-Feb-12 15:00
On second thought .... 251 Ahatmose 05-Feb-12 02:05
Re: On second thought .... 271 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-12 13:27
Re: On second thought .... 311 jnisbet 05-Feb-12 13:34
Re: On second thought .... 267 Ahatmose 05-Feb-12 13:45
Re: On second thought .... 271 jnisbet 05-Feb-12 14:33
Re: On second thought .... 246 Ahatmose 05-Feb-12 14:47
Re: On second thought .... 212 Scott Creighton 05-Feb-12 14:53
Re: On second thought .... 267 Ahatmose 05-Feb-12 15:38
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 257 LonelyAngel 05-Feb-12 16:39
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 259 Gary Osborn 05-Feb-12 17:30
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 272 Glanymor1948 05-Feb-12 20:30
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 281 Scott Creighton 06-Feb-12 11:17
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 254 Audrey 11-Feb-12 19:53
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 263 Gary Osborn 11-Feb-12 22:05
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 253 Ahatmose 11-Feb-12 23:48
Re: What if they were not Egyptians? 233 Thunderbird 12-Feb-12 02:46
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 240 Scott Creighton 13-Feb-12 00:02
Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 262 cladking 22-Feb-12 22:45
Re: Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 223 Scott Creighton 23-Feb-12 11:12
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 280 Drewski 23-Feb-12 10:48
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 279 Scott Creighton 23-Feb-12 23:58
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 235 Drewski 24-Feb-12 01:15
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 222 Scott Creighton 24-Feb-12 10:50
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 287 BethSwiss 24-Feb-12 11:16
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 252 Gary Osborn 24-Feb-12 12:15
Re: Introducing the Pyramid 'Recovery Vault Theory' (RVT) 277 BethSwiss 24-Feb-12 17:48
Form follows function, etc. ... 282 jnisbet 26-Feb-12 05:08


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