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You are passing judgements and making statements that you cannot support. When you have read my work...and not merely the Atlantis section but the reinforcing background that deals with the flood myth, in other words most of Deluge, then pass comment, because as it stands you are in no position to make any statement that refers to the validity or otherwise of the book.



You assume, wrongly, that i haven't already done so...




What, may I ask, do you mean by 'source background for Plato's world view' What was Plato's world view? How do you know what his view was? Why do you suppose that his Atlantis story relates to what is generally accepted as Greek mythology?



One compares Plato with other Greek writers to establish his world view, for example, from the Timaeus, one see's the sphere of Atlas described,



Wherefore he made the world in the form of a globe, round as from a lathe, having its extremes in every direction equidistant from the centre, the most perfect and the most like itself of all figures; for he considered that the like is infinitely fairer than the unlike. This he finished off, making the surface smooth all around for many reasons; in the first place, because the living being had no need of eyes when there was nothing remaining outside him to be seen; nor of ears when there was nothing to be heard; and there was no surrounding atmosphere to be breathed; nor would there have been any use of organs by the help of which he might receive his food or get rid of what he had already digested, since there was nothing which went from him or came into him: for there was nothing beside him. Of design he was created thus, his own waste providing his own food, and all that he did or suffered taking place in and by himself. For the Creator conceived that a being which was self-sufficient would be far more excellent than one which lacked anything; and, as he had no need to take anything or defend himself against any one, the Creator did not think it necessary to bestow upon him hands: nor had he any need of feet, nor of the whole apparatus of walking; but the movement suited to his spherical form was assigned to him, being of all the seven that which is most appropriate to mind and intelligence; and he was made to move in the same manner and on the same spot, within his own limits revolving in a circle. All the other six motions were taken away from him, and he was made not to partake of their deviations. And as this circular movement required no feet, the universe was created without legs and without feet.
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The world view of Plato was still thus that of the Heavenly sphere moving in a singular directional rotation from East to West where in mythological terms Atlas was held to rotate it thus.





In short you are apparently woefully lacking in knowledge of what Plato was getting at in his work and you are making assumptions with no foundation and presenting them as established fact.



There isn't any part of the Timaeus that hasn't been understood within the greater framework of Greek thought, what 'he was getting at' is a closed debate.




Come back when you understand my analysis and I shall debate it with you but until you can show me that you are aware of where I am coming from there is no point in dialogue that will go nowhere.




You'd be shocked at how well i know where you're coming from...




Morph

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dimensions of atlantis ? 280 michael seabrook 02-May-10 09:40
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 175 Harry Sivertsen 03-May-10 07:20
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 177 michael seabrook 03-May-10 09:25
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 184 Harry Sivertsen 03-May-10 10:16
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 354 Morph 03-May-10 13:15
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 165 Harry Sivertsen 03-May-10 14:05
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 308 Morph 03-May-10 15:19
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 192 Harry Sivertsen 03-May-10 15:35
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 295 Morph 03-May-10 16:43
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 149 Harry Sivertsen 03-May-10 16:48
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 295 Morph 03-May-10 17:19
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 178 Starchaser 03-May-10 17:25
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 156 Harry Sivertsen 03-May-10 17:41
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 179 Starchaser 03-May-10 17:58
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 147 Harry Sivertsen 03-May-10 18:43
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 294 Morph 03-May-10 17:50
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 137 Starchaser 03-May-10 18:13
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 151 Joe Atlantis 04-May-10 20:45
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 159 Harry Sivertsen 05-May-10 09:17
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 191 Joe Atlantis 05-May-10 18:46
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 181 Harry Sivertsen 06-May-10 10:44
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 151 Warwick 06-May-10 18:13
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 213 Harry Sivertsen 06-May-10 21:07
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 168 Warwick 07-May-10 00:47
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 166 Harry Sivertsen 07-May-10 09:46
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 157 Warwick 07-May-10 16:21
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 163 Harry Sivertsen 07-May-10 16:46
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 153 Warwick 07-May-10 17:30
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 175 Harry Sivertsen 07-May-10 18:21
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 163 Warwick 07-May-10 18:56
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 155 Harry Sivertsen 07-May-10 22:53
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 163 Warwick 07-May-10 23:29
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 165 Dr. Troglodyte 07-May-10 21:33
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 164 Warwick 07-May-10 21:59
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 161 Harry Sivertsen 07-May-10 23:57
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 178 Warwick 08-May-10 00:42
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 175 Harry Sivertsen 08-May-10 01:09
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 176 Warwick 08-May-10 02:01
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 158 Harry Sivertsen 08-May-10 12:59
as you insist 174 Warwick 08-May-10 17:26
Re: as you insist 178 Harry Sivertsen 09-May-10 08:28
Re: as you insist 112 Warwick 13-May-10 17:24
Re: as you insist 157 Harry Sivertsen 13-May-10 17:32
Re: as you insist 174 Warwick 13-May-10 17:46
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 156 JonnyMcA 08-May-10 21:38
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 143 Harry Sivertsen 09-May-10 10:05
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 129 JonnyMcA 09-May-10 10:26
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 157 Harry Sivertsen 09-May-10 13:18
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 128 Warwick 13-May-10 17:58
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 160 Glanymor1948 09-May-10 17:18
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 163 Harry Sivertsen 09-May-10 18:31
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 156 Harry Sivertsen 09-May-10 18:45
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 138 Glanymor1948 10-May-10 12:01
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 167 Harry Sivertsen 13-May-10 09:54
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 179 Harry Sivertsen 11-May-10 09:58
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 161 michael seabrook 11-May-10 10:15
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 157 Harry Sivertsen 11-May-10 12:41
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 114 michael seabrook 11-May-10 22:41
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 153 Harry Sivertsen 07-May-10 23:20
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 164 Joe Atlantis 07-May-10 20:34
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 166 Starchaser 06-May-10 19:40
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 168 Joe Atlantis 07-May-10 22:56
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 147 Harry Sivertsen 03-May-10 17:30
Engonasin 285 Morph 03-May-10 18:52
For what it's worth... 329 Morph 03-May-10 19:05
Re: For what it's worth... 149 Harry Sivertsen 03-May-10 19:18
Re: For what it's worth... 274 Morph 03-May-10 19:26
Re: For what it's worth... 155 Warwick 04-May-10 21:22
Re: For what it's worth... 275 Morph 05-May-10 12:13
Re: For what it's worth... 152 Warwick 05-May-10 15:51
Re: For what it's worth... 287 Morph 05-May-10 16:19
Re: For what it's worth... 182 Warwick 05-May-10 16:37
Re: Engonasin 189 Harry Sivertsen 03-May-10 22:35
Re: Engonasin 284 Morph 04-May-10 16:11
Re: Engonasin 189 Harry Sivertsen 04-May-10 17:50
Re: Engonasin 166 Warwick 04-May-10 21:18
Re: Engonasin 300 Morph 05-May-10 12:09
Re: Engonasin 166 Harry Sivertsen 05-May-10 13:30
Re: Engonasin 284 Morph 05-May-10 15:24
Re: Engonasin 168 Harry Sivertsen 05-May-10 15:50
Re: dimensions of at lantis ? 143 Lee Burton 03-May-10 16:43
Re: dimensions of at lantis ? 159 Harry Sivertsen 03-May-10 17:01
Mod Note 169 JonnyMcA 03-May-10 18:17
Re: Mod Note 148 Harry Sivertsen 03-May-10 19:16
Re: Mod Note 173 JonnyMcA 03-May-10 19:33
Re: Mod Note 126 Harry Sivertsen 03-May-10 21:01
Re: Mod Note 150 JonnyMcA 03-May-10 21:20
Re: Mod Note 157 Starchaser 03-May-10 21:40
Re: Mod Note 149 Harry Sivertsen 03-May-10 22:02
Re: Mod Note 163 JonnyMcA 03-May-10 22:05
Re: Mod Note 152 Harry Sivertsen 03-May-10 21:49
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 150 Harry Sivertsen 03-May-10 14:37
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 190 Absinthujone 03-May-10 18:03
Re: dimensions of atlantis ? 283 Morph 03-May-10 21:50


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