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dmduncan wrote:

> Carol, so you want photographic evidence of our artifacts left
> on the moon before you believe we went there, and that all the
> mountains of evidence that we went are actually true?

As I said before, I've seen plenty of evidence that we went, but on the other hand, I've seen conflicting evidence too - an example being the video of the 'wires' supporting the astronauts, which as Scott says, may well be just NASA disinformation, and the video I linked to, from NASA itself, discussing the fact that they can't go to the moon or Mars until the radiation problem is solved. This wouldn't be an issue if they had gone there. They'd have solved the problem already.
>
> What will prevent doubts arising about the authenticity of the
> photographs you would accept, if not by you, then by someone
> else? How could you know that ANY photograph which was
> produced by ANY agency in the world was NOT also produced by
> someone who was "in" on the conspiracy.
>
> Further, how could you possibly justify believing these new
> photographs, but not all of the others produced by a genuine
> mission to the moon?
>
Again, we have what appears to be NASA disinformation, with the ongoing discussion of the 'original' and 'tampered' photo in the "What Lunar Structure?" thread. Why are there two versions of the same photo? What's the point of NASA's disinformation? If they went to the moon, great! Why leak disinformation to plant the seeds of doubt? What's the need for that?

> It seems to me that you would simply be stopping your
> skepticism somewhere arbitrary, without any regard for facts at
> all, because a new conspiracy could be imagined around ANY and
> ALL new evidence too, effectively rendering it impossible to
> "prove" that we went to the moon to anyone who really wanted to
> disbelieve it.

Yes, that's true. It's a very valid point, and one which I was thinking of, but didn't express when I wrote earlier. I really don't have a clear answer to that.

>
> So that if you, as a serious doubter, at any point start to
> believe we went to the moon, it is NOT because of any real fact
> which convinced you, but because you DECIDED to let go of your
> extreme skepticism and paranoia, so that facts could start to
> appear to you.

Paranoia? I'm not paranoid! I'm sceptical, that's all!
>
> Extreme skepticism, whether it is about moon landings, ghosts,
> flying saucers, or Atlantis, actually PREVENTS you from seeing
> facts, it doesn't help you to see them.
>
No, it prevents gullibility from taking over.

> It may be that there is no greater hurdle between a person and
> a fact than extreme skepticism, and its cousin defect, extreme
> gullibility.

There's nothing wrong with healthy scepticism. Gullibility is not on the same level as a healthy dose of scepticism.


Carol


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But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 431 Ahatmose 06-Dec-07 11:49
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 164 RichardHoagland 06-Dec-07 21:26
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 315 Scott Creighton 06-Dec-07 23:50
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 287 RichardHoagland 07-Dec-07 00:01
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 232 colt 07-Dec-07 00:51
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 203 Scott Creighton 07-Dec-07 10:16
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 203 Ahatmose 07-Dec-07 03:26
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 190 quixote 07-Dec-07 04:13
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 292 RichardHoagland 07-Dec-07 08:11
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 177 quixote 07-Dec-07 14:56
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 164 RichardHoagland 07-Dec-07 07:35
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 195 Ahatmose 07-Dec-07 16:38
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 219 MALaclypse 13-Dec-07 03:03
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 204 Ahatmose 13-Dec-07 12:14
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 318 SphinxGirl 13-Dec-07 13:54
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Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 252 SphinxGirl 07-Dec-07 06:59
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 209 Ahatmose 07-Dec-07 15:34
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 282 SphinxGirl 07-Dec-07 18:01
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 169 quixote 08-Dec-07 01:51
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 290 carolb 08-Dec-07 14:45
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 154 quixote 09-Dec-07 02:27
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 261 dmduncan 09-Dec-07 03:01
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 222 Ahatmose 09-Dec-07 13:39
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 277 dmduncan 09-Dec-07 16:42
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Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 214 carolb 09-Dec-07 20:09
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 139 quixote 12-Dec-07 01:27
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Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 217 Hoppy 12-Dec-07 21:28
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Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 197 dmduncan 12-Dec-07 23:25
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 276 carolb 13-Dec-07 00:57
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 328 dmduncan 08-Dec-07 22:27
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 124 quixote 09-Dec-07 00:40
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 284 dmduncan 09-Dec-07 02:37
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 268 MALaclypse 13-Dec-07 03:31
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 313 Hoppy 08-Dec-07 02:25
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Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 202 Ahatmose 08-Dec-07 03:17
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 133 quixote 09-Dec-07 02:43
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 148 Ahatmose 09-Dec-07 14:02
The Bluffing Game 212 Scott Creighton 09-Dec-07 15:28
Re: The Bluffing Game 219 Ahatmose 09-Dec-07 15:37
Re: The Bluffing Game 266 Scott Creighton 09-Dec-07 15:54
Re: The Bluffing Game 214 Ahatmose 09-Dec-07 16:07
Re: The Bluffing Game 321 Scott Creighton 09-Dec-07 16:19
Re: The Bluffing Game 256 carolb 09-Dec-07 20:18
Re: The Bluffing Game 260 Scott Creighton 09-Dec-07 22:08
Re: The Bluffing Game 260 carolb 11-Dec-07 14:31
Re: The Bluffing Game 307 enigmaman 11-Dec-07 21:49
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 185 quixote 09-Dec-07 15:39
Moon rocks too? 132 quixote 09-Dec-07 16:07
Re: Moon rocks too? 233 Ahatmose 09-Dec-07 16:09
Re: Moon rocks too? 121 quixote 09-Dec-07 16:21
Re: Moon rocks too? 258 Ahatmose 09-Dec-07 16:36
Re: Moon rocks too? 169 dmduncan 09-Dec-07 16:55
Re: Moon rocks too? 341 Ahatmose 09-Dec-07 17:48
Re: Moon rocks too? 206 Houcad 09-Dec-07 17:54
Re: Moon rocks too? 232 Ahatmose 09-Dec-07 18:05
Re: Moon rocks too? 271 Hoppy 09-Dec-07 18:52
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 316 SphinxGirl 09-Dec-07 15:17
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 245 Richard Fusniak 11-Dec-07 02:34
Richard 183 quixote 11-Dec-07 03:11
Re: Richard 211 carolb 11-Dec-07 14:32
Re: Richard 187 SphinxGirl 11-Dec-07 16:55
Re: Richard 247 Ahatmose 11-Dec-07 17:06
Re: Richard 323 SphinxGirl 11-Dec-07 18:56
Tech-Check: Non Topic 279 Hoppy 11-Dec-07 20:35


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