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dmduncan wrote:

> Carol, so you want photographic evidence of our artifacts left
> on the moon before you believe we went there, and that all the
> mountains of evidence that we went are actually true?

As I said before, I've seen plenty of evidence that we went, but on the other hand, I've seen conflicting evidence too - an example being the video of the 'wires' supporting the astronauts, which as Scott says, may well be just NASA disinformation, and the video I linked to, from NASA itself, discussing the fact that they can't go to the moon or Mars until the radiation problem is solved. This wouldn't be an issue if they had gone there. They'd have solved the problem already.
>
> What will prevent doubts arising about the authenticity of the
> photographs you would accept, if not by you, then by someone
> else? How could you know that ANY photograph which was
> produced by ANY agency in the world was NOT also produced by
> someone who was "in" on the conspiracy.
>
> Further, how could you possibly justify believing these new
> photographs, but not all of the others produced by a genuine
> mission to the moon?
>
Again, we have what appears to be NASA disinformation, with the ongoing discussion of the 'original' and 'tampered' photo in the "What Lunar Structure?" thread. Why are there two versions of the same photo? What's the point of NASA's disinformation? If they went to the moon, great! Why leak disinformation to plant the seeds of doubt? What's the need for that?

> It seems to me that you would simply be stopping your
> skepticism somewhere arbitrary, without any regard for facts at
> all, because a new conspiracy could be imagined around ANY and
> ALL new evidence too, effectively rendering it impossible to
> "prove" that we went to the moon to anyone who really wanted to
> disbelieve it.

Yes, that's true. It's a very valid point, and one which I was thinking of, but didn't express when I wrote earlier. I really don't have a clear answer to that.

>
> So that if you, as a serious doubter, at any point start to
> believe we went to the moon, it is NOT because of any real fact
> which convinced you, but because you DECIDED to let go of your
> extreme skepticism and paranoia, so that facts could start to
> appear to you.

Paranoia? I'm not paranoid! I'm sceptical, that's all!
>
> Extreme skepticism, whether it is about moon landings, ghosts,
> flying saucers, or Atlantis, actually PREVENTS you from seeing
> facts, it doesn't help you to see them.
>
No, it prevents gullibility from taking over.

> It may be that there is no greater hurdle between a person and
> a fact than extreme skepticism, and its cousin defect, extreme
> gullibility.

There's nothing wrong with healthy scepticism. Gullibility is not on the same level as a healthy dose of scepticism.


Carol


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But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 453 Ahatmose 06-Dec-07 11:49
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 176 RichardHoagland 06-Dec-07 21:26
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 326 Scott Creighton 06-Dec-07 23:50
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Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 216 Scott Creighton 07-Dec-07 10:16
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Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 230 MALaclypse 13-Dec-07 03:03
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Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 221 Ahatmose 07-Dec-07 15:34
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Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 301 carolb 08-Dec-07 14:45
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Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 273 dmduncan 09-Dec-07 03:01
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Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 338 dmduncan 08-Dec-07 22:27
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Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 325 Hoppy 08-Dec-07 02:25
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The Bluffing Game 226 Scott Creighton 09-Dec-07 15:28
Re: The Bluffing Game 230 Ahatmose 09-Dec-07 15:37
Re: The Bluffing Game 279 Scott Creighton 09-Dec-07 15:54
Re: The Bluffing Game 224 Ahatmose 09-Dec-07 16:07
Re: The Bluffing Game 333 Scott Creighton 09-Dec-07 16:19
Re: The Bluffing Game 267 carolb 09-Dec-07 20:18
Re: The Bluffing Game 272 Scott Creighton 09-Dec-07 22:08
Re: The Bluffing Game 272 carolb 11-Dec-07 14:31
Re: The Bluffing Game 324 enigmaman 11-Dec-07 21:49
Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 209 quixote 09-Dec-07 15:39
Moon rocks too? 143 quixote 09-Dec-07 16:07
Re: Moon rocks too? 244 Ahatmose 09-Dec-07 16:09
Re: Moon rocks too? 134 quixote 09-Dec-07 16:21
Re: Moon rocks too? 268 Ahatmose 09-Dec-07 16:36
Re: Moon rocks too? 180 dmduncan 09-Dec-07 16:55
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Re: Moon rocks too? 216 Houcad 09-Dec-07 17:54
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Re: But Richard ... Did we really go to the moon ? 256 Richard Fusniak 11-Dec-07 02:34
Richard 195 quixote 11-Dec-07 03:11
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Re: Richard 198 SphinxGirl 11-Dec-07 16:55
Re: Richard 259 Ahatmose 11-Dec-07 17:06
Re: Richard 335 SphinxGirl 11-Dec-07 18:56
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