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But, Jim,

This debate is not over symbolism. I have no argument with you there. This debate is over whether or not The Founding Fathers recognized God in the Constitution. I advise you to read the Federalist Papers link on that site I gave you to get a better understanding of what the Founders were trying to establish and what they actually thought.

I agree that the Bible contains much symbolism and "figure of speech." If you read my posts you will see I promote the symbolism in the Bible.

But to state that the Bible is completely symbolic is just as frivilous as those who profess that the Bible should be taken in complete literal terms.

The Bible is a combination of literal historical events and symbolic and archetypal meanings. There are astrological and astronomical symbols as well as "figures of speech" with literal under and overtones. But to say that the people or events did not take place is to also ignore the historical and archaeological records of Ancient Egypt which are the same records as the first half of the Bible. (the names have been changed, but it is the record of the same people)

History becomes legend, legend becomes myth, then all together forgotten. When they are rediscovered, they are oftentimes hard to believe. But that doesn't mean they did not take place. So Moses faced "glowed". Are you denying the possibility of a "supernatural" event? Then you deny all things in nature that "glow". His face "shone" because he was exposed to something "supernatural" (that is, that which is beyond our understanding of natural). Why is this so hard to believe for you?

Did meteors fall to the earth back then? Of course they did. Look at the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. Natural events did take place, albeit, with the help of a Supreme Advanced Being whom we call God. And the stories in the Bible are the records of these events. I don't believe the earth was created in a literal six days. In six ages, maybe, but not six days.

You are free as always to believe what you want.

kind regards,
Kim

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Christians & the "End of Days" 537 SunSword 04-Apr-05 20:28
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 254 Paoputzu 04-Apr-05 23:36
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 249 Kboldt 05-Apr-05 17:18
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 274 Paoputzu 07-Apr-05 12:14
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 191 Jaimi2 05-Apr-05 16:30
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 204 whytebyrd 05-Apr-05 17:41
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 264 Kboldt 05-Apr-05 18:12
I would like to add... 272 Kboldt 06-Apr-05 14:24
And I would like to add... 246 Lee McGiffen 06-Apr-05 16:00
Re: And I would like to add... 250 Kboldt 06-Apr-05 18:06
Re: And I would like to add... 216 JimLewandowski 06-Apr-05 18:18
Re: And I would like to add... 262 Kboldt 06-Apr-05 18:47
Re: And I would like to add... 183 JimLewandowski 06-Apr-05 18:54
Re: And I would like to add... 258 SunSword 06-Apr-05 19:46
Re: And I would like to add... 185 JimLewandowski 06-Apr-05 19:55
Re: And I would like to add... 226 Cesar 06-Apr-05 22:44
more of a deistic take on things 201 JimLewandowski 07-Apr-05 15:22
Re: And I would like to add... 304 Briffits 09-Apr-05 10:26
Re: And I would like to add... 223 Lee McGiffen 12-Apr-05 11:45
Re: And I would like to add... 222 Kboldt 12-Apr-05 13:10
you can approach this "problem" in 3 ways 184 JimLewandowski 12-Apr-05 16:43
Re: you can approach this "problem" in 3 ways 244 Kboldt 12-Apr-05 17:00
Re: you can approach this "problem" in 3 ways 191 JimLewandowski 12-Apr-05 19:00
Re: you can approach this "problem" in 3 ways 243 Kboldt 12-Apr-05 19:56
Re: you can approach this "problem" in 3 ways 200 JimLewandowski 12-Apr-05 20:13
Re: you can approach this "problem" in 3 ways 200 Cesar 12-Apr-05 20:40
Re: you can approach this "problem" in 3 ways 246 Kboldt 12-Apr-05 20:44
I've always felt the phrase "all men are created equal" 196 JimLewandowski 12-Apr-05 23:07
Re: I've always felt the phrase "all men are created equal" 221 Cesar 13-Apr-05 09:45
Re: And I would like to add... 242 SunSword 12-Apr-05 14:06
Re: And I would like to add... 206 Lee McGiffen 13-Apr-05 10:55
then why would Jefferson CUT out of the bible 191 JimLewandowski 06-Apr-05 17:32
Re: then why would Jefferson CUT out of the bible 269 Kboldt 06-Apr-05 18:12
Re: then why would Jefferson CUT out of the bible 212 JimLewandowski 06-Apr-05 18:16
Re: then why would Jefferson CUT out of the bible 193 Joyeuse 09-Apr-05 02:21
forgot the link for information 176 Joyeuse 09-Apr-05 02:36
Re: then why would Jefferson CUT out of the bible 184 Farseeker 11-Apr-05 19:15
in the end, it's all geography 206 JimLewandowski 11-Apr-05 20:57
Re: in the end, it's all geography 184 Farseeker 11-Apr-05 21:28
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 190 Diomede 05-Apr-05 22:10
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 203 Gordon Strachan 07-Apr-05 16:13
No real percentage increase in Evangelical vote for Bush in 2004 259 SunSword 07-Apr-05 17:24
Re: No real percentage increase in Evangelical vote for Bush in 2004 200 Paoputzu 08-Apr-05 01:58
Re: No real percentage increase in Evangelical vote for Bush in 2004 233 SunSword 08-Apr-05 15:09
Re: No real percentage increase in Evangelical vote for Bush in 2004 178 Paoputzu 08-Apr-05 16:39
fundamentalism is on the rise around the globe 187 JimLewandowski 08-Apr-05 17:07
The End is coming... 216 Lee McGiffen 09-Apr-05 08:20
Re: The End is coming... 194 JamesH 09-Apr-05 14:37
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 196 Kattmanndoo 15-Apr-05 03:12
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 218 Cesar 15-Apr-05 07:36
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 177 Gordon Strachan 15-Apr-05 17:11
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 237 SunSword 15-Apr-05 17:20
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 254 Kboldt 15-Apr-05 18:05
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 190 Gordon Strachan 18-Apr-05 15:35
Neo-Cons & "Apocolyptic" Christians 235 SunSword 18-Apr-05 16:41
According to a Newsweek poll... 180 David L 18-Apr-05 22:54
Re: According to a Newsweek poll... 182 Joyeuse 19-Apr-05 00:32
Re: According to a Newsweek poll... 177 JimLewandowski 19-Apr-05 04:18
Re: According to a Newsweek poll... 173 Joyeuse 20-Apr-05 02:49
Re: According to a Newsweek poll... 240 SunSword 20-Apr-05 14:16
Re: According to a Newsweek poll... 188 Joyeuse 21-Apr-05 01:07
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 193 Gordon Strachan 21-Apr-05 15:08
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 237 Paoputzu 21-Apr-05 15:57
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 231 SunSword 21-Apr-05 16:10
Re: Christians & the "End of Days" 248 Gordon Strachan 26-Apr-05 14:52


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