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Hi Lee,

Sorry if I seemed rude. You started off on the the blood being some type of pigment, and the C-14 date as making it an obvious fraud. I guess I was a little irritated that you had no basis but heresay for these claims. As you will see in other posts, the shroud underwent an extensive study in 1978. 50 scientists performed a battery of tests and found no pigments. The blood stains were verified to be real, and the image was shown not to be scorch marks or body oils. In fact, the only explanation for the image was that it might be from some type of radiation source, and they couldn't exactly explain that either. All this information is readily available and many research papers have been done. When the C-14 test was done in 1988, it showed an age of about 728 years, and most people dropped the issue as unimportant. But that still did not explain the image. In fact, the mystery of the shroud seems to deepen with time. It was discovered that iradiating the image with polarized light produced skeletal features. More recent developments in the C-14 testing of textiles has also put some doubt on the validity of the original test due to bacterial contamination.
( Old cloth develops a coating of accumulated bacteria that is not easy to clean off, which affects the C-14 test.)
So, what does it prove? It doesn't prove that Jesus lived or anything like that. I think it speaks quite eloquently for itself. The joke is on us! Paul

Lee McGiffen wrote:
>
> Paul Cochrane wrote:
> >
> > Gosh Lee,
> >
> > I am rather shocked that you so quickly brush off
> > scientific facts. But it is a free land and you can believe
> > whatever you want.
>
> Can you be more explicit? What specific scientific facts have
> I brushed off?
>
> > Are you a member of the flat earth society?
>
> No, are you?

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The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 1890 Paul Cochrane 27-Feb-04 06:28
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 517 Anne-Marie 27-Feb-04 07:13
Moderator Note 500 Jaimi 27-Feb-04 21:17
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 507 Lee McGiffen 27-Feb-04 12:32
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 568 Kboldt 27-Feb-04 14:00
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 506 fiascohoho 27-Feb-04 14:49
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 521 Lee McGiffen 27-Feb-04 15:10
D'Adamo... talk about synchronicity 579 ananda 27-Feb-04 16:33
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 479 fiascohoho 27-Feb-04 16:35
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 731 SunSword 27-Feb-04 18:36
Need source for your claim 537 ananda 27-Feb-04 18:57
Re: Need source for your claim 550 SunSword 27-Feb-04 22:19
No source or evidence? 565 ananda 27-Feb-04 22:44
Re: No source or evidence? 506 fiascohoho 28-Feb-04 00:10
Re: No source or evidence? 578 SunSword 28-Feb-04 00:40
Re: Need source for your claim 560 Zosimos 27-Feb-04 23:04
Re: Need source for your claim 539 ananda 28-Feb-04 00:44
Are you assuming... 454 ananda 29-Feb-04 20:15
Re: Are you assuming... 486 SunSword 01-Mar-04 14:39
Re: Are you assuming... 509 ArmchairObserver 01-Mar-04 15:50
Re: Are you assuming... 499 SunSword 01-Mar-04 17:23
Re: Need source for your claim 403 Paul Cochrane 28-Feb-04 04:26
Blood Types 538 jameske 28-Feb-04 15:51
Re: Blood Types 549 Lee McGiffen 29-Feb-04 12:30
Re: Blood Types 439 jameske 29-Feb-04 14:40
Re: Blood Types 555 ananda 29-Feb-04 15:36
Re: Blood Types 525 jameske 01-Mar-04 14:09
Re: Blood Types 533 SunSword 29-Feb-04 18:15
Re: Blood Types 534 jameske 01-Mar-04 14:03
Re: Blood Types 512 Paul Cochrane 01-Mar-04 03:16
Re: Blood Types 560 Lee McGiffen 01-Mar-04 11:32
Re: Blood Types 889 Paul Cochrane 03-Mar-04 01:09
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 502 ArmchairObserver 27-Feb-04 16:15
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 521 ananda 27-Feb-04 16:44
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 546 ArmchairObserver 27-Feb-04 17:40
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 525 Paul Cochrane 28-Feb-04 04:48
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 570 Paul Cochrane 28-Feb-04 04:43
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 531 Paul Cochrane 28-Feb-04 04:18
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 541 Mark Staab 27-Feb-04 16:48
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 541 Paul Cochrane 28-Feb-04 04:55
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 489 Mark Staab 28-Feb-04 05:43
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 534 Paul Cochrane 28-Feb-04 06:22
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 548 Zosimos 27-Feb-04 17:01
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 515 Mark Staab 27-Feb-04 17:17
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 549 Zosimos 27-Feb-04 18:25
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 604 Mark Staab 27-Feb-04 19:53
Mod remark 556 Kees 27-Feb-04 20:13
Re: Mod remark 569 Mark Staab 27-Feb-04 22:08
Re: Mod remark 491 Zosimos 27-Feb-04 22:36
Re: Mod remark 509 Mark Staab 27-Feb-04 23:27
Moderator note 534 Jaimi 28-Feb-04 04:29
Re: Moderator note 517 Mark Staab 28-Feb-04 05:46
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 543 Paul Cochrane 28-Feb-04 05:08
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 513 fisherman 27-Feb-04 17:41
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 528 Paul Cochrane 28-Feb-04 05:41
Belief, Proof and what does it matter 505 Elizabeth Newton 29-Feb-04 06:54
Re: Belief, Proof and what does it matter 493 fiascohoho 29-Feb-04 08:30
Re: Belief, Proof and what does it matter 520 Elizabeth Newton 29-Feb-04 11:52
Re: Belief, Proof and what does it matter 536 Elizabeth Newton 29-Feb-04 14:07
Re: Belief, Proof and what does it matter 533 fiascohoho 29-Feb-04 15:40
Re: Belief, Proof and what does it matter 543 Paul Cochrane 01-Mar-04 03:56
Re: Belief, Proof and what does it matter 501 Paul Cochrane 01-Mar-04 03:32
Re: Belief, Proof and what does it matter 535 Elizabeth Newton 01-Mar-04 15:00
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 528 Trygve Hogebol 29-Feb-04 18:37
Re: The shroud of Turin and synchronicity 455 Paul Cochrane 01-Mar-04 04:24


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