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M J Harper wrote:
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> 2. Science can more or less produce the same effect by brain
> stimulation.

> So when you are seeing a ghost you are mad. When you stop
> seeing the ghost, by the same token, you have returned to
> sanity.


So explain to me how going mad and being able to "more or less" reproduce these effects on a person who claims to see a ghost, also reproduce the same reactions in animals on location of the original ghost sighting?
I have had a cat(major attitude) and 90% wolf hybrid both react to ghost occurence. The wolf was very protective of the first child while in that house and would react to it at the same time the first daughter would react. Either by allowing it to happen, while on guard, or preventing anything near the baby, very defensively. The baby would react in the same manner either by cooing and giggling, in the direction of the wolf's stare, even reaching for what was there, or by crying and getting agitated at the same instants when the wolf would bare fangs and tense, as if to attack. The baby was in a solid bassinet unable to see the wolf yet react in like ways at the "appearances".

I have heard the walking then running of a heavy footfall and leap from bed and meet the noise at the end of hall only to meet empty air and have the baby wake doing one of the above mentioned reactions.
This wolf would go from deep sleep to instant alert with hair raised and teeth bared standing between baby and doorway to bedroom.
The wife had had incidents of feeling someone sit down on edge of bed before we became a couple in this house. And sometimes would feel the need to leave and stay gone out of this house and other times not be bothered by it at all.
I have walked thru enough cold spots in that house, near heaters or dead of Texas summer, to know there was something there, and then to have animals react to the same things just reinforces that it ain't all in our heads.
Our oldest daughter would let us know when the "friendly one" arrived by acting up, cheerfully, towards a doorway, or would find us quicker then the wolf could react to the "unfriendly one". In all these incidents I can not remember either of these apparitions actually moving past the doorways when sensed by anyone or anything, other then when baby did not have anyone between her and the "occurence" and when wife lived there alone.
As I have a family heritage going back to NA blood I have a strong connection to wolves and cats(big preferably) and know by older family members that cats are supposed to be able to sense them and that wolves are totem animals and I have been told that a wolf if family oriented and will protect it's family from all harm. The gentleman that told me of this stressed the word "ALL" and claimed his mother and grand-mother was of a special and rare kind of lady, I never did get the whole story on that last comment though. I was always told that humans would learn many times more knowledge if they just listened and watched nature! I think that is one of the truest statements I have ever heard!

If you would care to explain the total opposite twin ghosts and the human madness in relation to animals I am all ears.


Respectfully,
Lobo-hotei
lobo

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