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Yes, language has changed everything for us in the evolution. Will there be enough chimpanses left to evolve too? We will probably wipe them out. But they use sign language, some of them, both with humans and other chimps.

When a human gets dementia or Alzheimers - I don't know the difference - do they lose their soul? An early death, but worse?

As said, I hope for 7 more good years, to support my little family. I myself am a bit tired of everything, have soon had enough. Not quite, though. Today I must find out where my big, old dog has found out to escape out onto the road, taught by my naughty smaller dog, also old. So, at 89 I am again fixing fences. But first cutting the tree branches hanging down and hindering me.
It looks like a nice day at last, we have had a lot of rain, and that does not normally bother me, as we are on tank water, but no more rain needed for me. Maybe a bit of real Spring will put a spring in my steps too? Pushing my stroller!

Would I like my soul to live on? Definitely! From what all those accounts from an afterlife, however they come to us, it sounds really fantastic, not the right word! Wonderful would be better.

I have a book called AN ATHEIST IN HEAVEN. By Paul Davids. I will stop here and come back and edit, so please will you come back and read me?
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Simon Prentis Wrote:
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> greengirl5 Wrote:
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> -----
> > My soul is what I am.
>
> Yes indeed, our souls are what we are. But what is
> 'we'? At the risk of banging my own drum, this is
> the conundrum I try to address in Chapter 4 of my
> book. As I have previously said, I believe all
> living things (and maybe even 'non-living') things
> have awareness, that comes with the territory.
> Like everything else, we act as we 'feel' on the
> basis of sensory input -- which may ultimately be
> no more than chemical reactions, though these too
> may be more profound than we realise.
>
> But language changes the game. Being able to tag
> our awareness with easily remembered sounds means
> we can become aware not only that we are aware,
> but that others are also aware -- and that alters
> our behaviour. It also creates the illusion of an
> abstract world separate from our direct
> sensations. Think of what's going on right now.
> We're having a conversation based entirely on the
> juggling of abstract words, which are simply
> 'digital' combinations of 26 letters (in the
> English language; others have more or less). Most
> of us have probably never met each other, but we
> nonetheless have a good sense of each other's
> personalities or 'souls' -- based entirely on that
> artificial exchange of patterns on a screen.
>
> That's the power of language. As I put it in my
> book, "The wings that language gives to thought
> induce a light airy feeling that seems quite
> independent of the heavy, meaty mess of our
> biology." And that's what gives us our sense of
> 'soul'. It doesn't mean we have one, in the sense
> of something that survives our physical death, or
> is otherwise somehow independent of our body. But
> it's a powerful illusion that has bewitched us all
> through history. It can be uncomfortable to think
> that you don't perhaps have a soul, that 'this' is
> all there is. But actually, it changes nothing.
> Whether or not there is an eternal soul, we are
> still miraculous vessels of awareness and
> wonderment. That's good enough for me!



Edited 6 time(s). Last edit at 09-Oct-21 22:15 by greengirl5.

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