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Angelis Wrote:
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> There is a third option: I believe there is a
> non-conscious mechanism inside us that changes our
> genes when we are experiencing intense emotions.
> Perhaps not the genes we are composed of, but the
> genes we pass to our descendants. Think about how
> many things our body does without our conscious
> mind coordinating. Even breathing, although we
> partially control it so we can stop it for a
> while, works when we sleep. Our body heals its
> wounds, it fights viruses, and we never know a
> thing.

Maybe I can help clear up some of how this works - at least from the mainstream perspective which you can take or leave as you desire. This goes back to my school days and I have forgotten so much in my dotage but I can give you a very brief description.

It is not so much that the genome is changed, it is that the genes being expressed can change due to environmental conditions. This works on very complex feedback loops that tell the cells genetic machinery what to express.

Let me give an example. Say the source of food in the environment changes or some extreme change in environmental toxins happens. After billions of years of evolution acquired genetic traits handed down will have some prior experience with those nutrient and toxins and will already have very complex gene systems in place to deal with the change.

So chemical changes in the environment will cause an increase in that chemical signal reaching cells and this will kick in a feedback loop to help the body adapt.

Typically all very complex gene systems have promoters at the start of the coding region that tell the cell machinery how much of that protein to express and where to start transcription copying. In multiple embedded gene systems there may be multiple promoters within a singe gene system that can be turned on or off depending on environmental conditions and genes that overlap each other with only partial expression of each depending on where transcription process starts.

So a signal from the environment comes into the cell and as it's molar concentration increases, it's very presence sends a signal to gene in question to either produce or stop producing whatever protein it makes in response. There are all kinds of ways to do this. It might mean phosphorylation of some of the key signals where some expression factor is emphasized or it might mean adding inert methyl groups to the actual promoter itself so that the polymerase enzymes simply physically cannot bind and attach to that genes promoter which shuts down expression.

Very, very complicated stuff but really responsive to what the cell needs in terms of it's environment through simple feedback mechanisms.

I mean, we have all kinds of DNA that we have no idea what it does. It may be that this is left over from all those billions years of evolution and is simply not needed in todays environment so whatever protein it is coding for is not needed or expressed any more. But if the environment changes, as it is now, these might become useful again so some chemical signal in the environment will de-methylize some promoter and bingo, you have some gene expression that appears to come out of nowhere because to us it appears the genome has changed within a generation or two from some intelligence when all that really had happened is a small change in the amount of a gene that is expressed in the already existing genome.

I don't know if that helps but that is my brief review from memory of genetics 101.

Here is a simple explanation of gene expression from "Nature" that may give further insight:

[www.nature.com]



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 14-Aug-21 10:55 by Sirius7237.

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Re: Love my Kindle! 139 Christine 12-Aug-21 12:40
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Ragnarok now 103 greengirl5 12-Aug-21 15:00
Re: Ragnarok now 90 Angelis 12-Aug-21 21:34
Re: Love my Kindle! 94 Angelis 12-Aug-21 21:23
What exactly is this"Nature"? 112 greengirl5 12-Aug-21 22:59
Re: What exactly is this"Nature"? 148 Angelis 13-Aug-21 06:40
Re: What exactly is this"Nature"? 112 Wheeler 13-Aug-21 10:14
Re: What exactly is this"Nature"? 105 Angelis 13-Aug-21 14:29
Re: What exactly is this"Nature"? 127 greengirl5 13-Aug-21 10:30
Re: What exactly is this"Nature"? 175 Sirius7237 13-Aug-21 16:26
Re: What exactly is this"Nature"? 101 Angelis 13-Aug-21 21:32
Organ transplants 109 greengirl5 13-Aug-21 22:48
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 134 Sirius7237 18-Aug-21 15:50
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 135 Angelis 18-Aug-21 20:23
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 99 Sirius7237 20-Aug-21 01:32
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 136 Angelis 20-Aug-21 21:23
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 126 greengirl5 18-Aug-21 22:17
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 158 Eddie Larry 19-Aug-21 14:51
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Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 184 Angelis 19-Aug-21 22:01
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 124 Angelis 19-Aug-21 21:43
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 131 greengirl5 19-Aug-21 22:53
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 152 Eddie Larry 19-Aug-21 23:35
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 130 greengirl5 20-Aug-21 04:18
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 159 Eddie Larry 20-Aug-21 16:47
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 87 Angelis 20-Aug-21 21:48
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 99 greengirl5 20-Aug-21 22:42
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 92 Angelis 20-Aug-21 21:35
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 151 Eddie Larry 20-Aug-21 21:53
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 82 Angelis 22-Aug-21 14:52
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 89 greengirl5 20-Aug-21 23:24
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 100 Angelis 21-Aug-21 15:06
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 112 Angelis 20-Aug-21 21:10
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 98 Eddie Larry 21-Aug-21 22:34
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 91 Angelis 22-Aug-21 14:17
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 133 cjcalleman 20-Aug-21 16:58
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 91 Angelis 20-Aug-21 22:09
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 97 greengirl5 20-Aug-21 23:48
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 96 Angelis 21-Aug-21 15:24
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 101 Susan Doris 21-Aug-21 05:20
Our own, independent, objective ideas about the universe! 96 greengirl5 21-Aug-21 07:50
Re: Our own, independent, objective ideas about the universe! 96 Susan Doris 22-Aug-21 05:13
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 96 Angelis 21-Aug-21 15:29
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Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 122 Eddie Larry 21-Aug-21 22:52
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 89 Angelis 22-Aug-21 14:14
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Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 94 Angelis 22-Aug-21 14:48
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 96 greengirl5 22-Aug-21 23:19
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 98 Eddie Larry 21-Aug-21 22:44
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 96 Susan Doris 22-Aug-21 05:43
Alexandros said it, not Susan. 134 greengirl5 22-Aug-21 06:17
Re: Alexandros said it, not Susan. 102 Susan Doris 22-Aug-21 09:32
Re: Alexandros said it, not Susan. 109 Angelis 22-Aug-21 13:41
Re: Alexandros said it, not Susan. 103 Eddie Larry 22-Aug-21 16:10
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 93 Eddie Larry 22-Aug-21 16:08
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 109 cjcalleman 21-Aug-21 17:32
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 93 Angelis 21-Aug-21 20:50
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 97 cjcalleman 22-Aug-21 15:33
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 106 greengirl5 21-Aug-21 22:29
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 109 Susan Doris 22-Aug-21 06:01
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 148 cjcalleman 22-Aug-21 21:44
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 128 Sirius7237 22-Aug-21 23:41
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 112 Susan Doris 23-Aug-21 04:58
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 136 Angelis 23-Aug-21 16:17
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 120 Susan Doris 24-Aug-21 05:13
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 94 greengirl5 20-Aug-21 22:32
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 100 Angelis 21-Aug-21 14:55
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 88 greengirl5 21-Aug-21 22:56
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 99 Angelis 22-Aug-21 14:33
The devil (Tasmanian) 107 greengirl5 22-Aug-21 23:55
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 86 Glass Jigsaw 29-Aug-21 12:34
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Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 94 Wheeler 30-Aug-21 10:31
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 89 Angelis 30-Aug-21 11:15
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 99 Wheeler 30-Aug-21 12:52
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 94 Angelis 31-Aug-21 20:57
Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 101 Sirius7237 01-Sep-21 03:20
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Re: Welcome to Alexandros Angelis our author of the month for August 2021 86 Eddie Larry 01-Sep-21 03:40
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Hermes 96 thinkitover 02-Sep-21 03:55
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Mod Note > Cut & Paste + Copyright 93 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Sep-21 16:31
Fire Serpents-Caduceus-Threefold 110 seasmith 02-Sep-21 17:09
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Mod Note > Moderator Directives 94 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Sep-21 13:46
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