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Poster Boy Wrote:
> Roughriders were playing, I get it!

Heh, not a fan. But I can't resist telling you, last night's distraction was a herd of a dozen elk in my yard. :)

Now, for clarity, I'm going to snip a lot of the quotes. If I miss responding to something you think is esp important, please let me know.

> > Rebecca: So no, it does not seem
> > reasonable that Martin interprets all of
> ancient art as constellation- or comet-related.
> PB: I dont presume he interprets "all" under such
> terms. My focus was on 43 and its relationship to
> his test.

Actually, Martin does explicitly interpret all ancient art as astronomical, going right back to the Upper Paleolithic. I am not the only archaeologist to object to this, for numerous solid reasons; his dismissal of my input on this forum, calling it mere pseudoscientific opinion, is precisely how he responds to archaeologists in general, including the ones who are actually excavating Gobekli Tepe. Here is what he said of them: "Notroff et.al. suggest they have an alternative interpretation for symbolism at GT. We respond that given the statistical basis for our interpretation, any interpretation inconsistent with ours is very likely to be incorrect." And yet archaeologists (especially the Gobekli Tepe crew) are exactly the ones who can see in detail how shoddy and slapdash his input was. A severe case of GIGO.

> > > Rebecca wrote,
> But most of the images are quite unambiguous; it's
> not rocket science. We distinguish between similar
> > objects (like cars, in my analogy) all the time
> > without having to resort to a pocket
> calculator.
> PB: Yes, but we must tread carefully. Oh, if I had a
> dime for every time I thought I knew what the
> Ancients were thinking:)

Nobody except Martin is claiming to know what the ancients were thinking. The archaeologists, however, do claim to be able to identify the animals the ancients were carving on the T-pillars, and to classify them according to form and diagnostic attributes - an absolutely basic first-level archaeological tool. The archaeologists' interpretations will eventually take into account the input from an archaeozoologist, and will be consistent with the archaeological context and the faunal record. Martin's synthesis was inconsistent with the facts of the site even at the time he wrote, and even farther from the picture of Gobekli Tepe emerging from the ongoing excavations.


> > > PB: The notion that the GT art may reflect the
> > > constellations IS a well founded possibility
> > that you must know to be true but somehow can't
> > admit to, although won't now seems likely the
> better word.
> > Rebecca: Actually, I think it's highly, highly
> unlikely. >
> PB: THANK YOU FOR YOUR CANDOR! I find that things move
> along much more fluidly when we discuss
> presuppositions.

Why are you presupposing it's a presupposition? :)

> PB: Respectfully Rebecca, I know this is your thing,
> but don't you think it's unwise to rule out
> astronomical interest? I understand Martin's test
> is limited, but it seems too draconian, given what
> we know about the ancients later interest in the
> stars. Napta Playa stretches that interest back to
> 7500bc, in ways that suggest, to me -for involving
> precession-the possibility that the interest
> originated much earlier.

Remember, I was not claiming the ancients had no interest in the stars; your question was about whether I thought the GT images represented constellations. Those are different questions, and I had previously said that the sky was one of the many things that interested ancient peoples - along with food, sex, pleasure, social and power structures, and not getting eaten or stung by things in the environment. Nabta Playa was clearly a place where the night sky played a significant role in the culture (and probably in navigation across those hazardous desert wastes), but that says nothing about Gobekli Tepe, because there is no evidence the two were connected in any way.

> A second thought is this. I just don't get your
> objection to Martin's use of stick people
> constellations. This may be new, or a very recent
> convention, as you say, but I don't see how you
> can rule this line of interpretation out on based
> on what we do know, such as "Orion" being
> anthropologically depicted as a person by the
> Egyptians.

You might find it interesting to do what Martin clearly did not do - read up on the history and chronology of the constellations. As for the stick figures, have a look at the Pillar 43 section of sky WITHOUT the constellations turned on. There are any number of ways to "connect the dots," and other astronomical traditions do exactly that. Martin has no basis for assuming the people of GT, Catal Huyuk, and Paleolithic Europe connected the dots in the same way we started doing a little over century ago. BTW, Pharaonic Egypt did apparently have an anthropomorphic figure overlapping our Orion, the god Sah, but the famous three-star asterism was his crown, not his belt.

> PB I think his ideas
> warrant further exploration, but in the end your
> idea may prove most compelling, that the carvings
> are just art for Art's sake. I am not married to
> either outcome.

To clarify: it's not my position that the images were art for art's sake. That's another fairly modern concept. But there are other reasonable and culturally interesting interpretations to explore: narratives, mnemonics, clan totems, sympathetic magic, attempts to control the natural world...etc. There are also strong suggestions that the widespread Pre-Pottery Neolithic modes of dealing with death and the dead are involved. Many rich possibilities.


> Rebecca: I would be very interested in your response to the pictures I
> > posted above, placing the disputed images side by side with comparative material. Cheers and
> thanks!>
> PB: I will pass, on the grounds that I knew what your
> point was long before I saw the Disney image: The
> night skies are truly ambiguous.

That wasn't actually my point. I'm not asking about ambiguous images in the night sky, nor about the Bugs Bunny images, but about an animal image which I (and the Gobekli Tepe archaeologists) find completely unambiguous, while Martin interprets it...differently. It's not a trivial point, because there are at least two ways it could falsify his entire synthesis.

> PB: "I'll be back when the ibex/feline appears."

That's a fabulous line. :)

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