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Imagine there was a trial. The accused name is God and he has been charged with creating the universe, life and all the human deaths and misery that has ever existed on earth. God is saying he is not God – that no one created the universe – and that this is merely a case of miss identification.

So, the trial begins and God’s defence attorney tells the court that his client cannot be God for there is no such thing as God.

The prosecution says but; “Who was there before the universe - and the existence of life on planet earth – the planet where all those horrible murders happened?”

The defence says no one was there – it was just natural laws that brought everything into existence – and that the prosecution has zero evidence for the existence of God.”

The Judge, having some sympathy for God, asked the prosecution to present evidence.

The prosecution says; “I understand your honour that none of us were there when the universe came into existence 13.7 billion years ago. However, I present as evidence the fact that the universe has 100 billion stars in 100 billion galaxies. That is a total of 10,000 million, million, million stars. And even if we can imagine that all those stars came from nowhere then it still needed countless other factors to be exactly right for the universe to come into existence – and the probability of all those factors being exactly right is 1:10120; (that is a probability of 1 to 10 followed by 120 zeros). Then we need to consider that all these stars have an unimaginable amount of heat/energy that must have come from somewhere. In addition, your honour I present as evidence for a creator God the fact that earth has life. Again, the chance that all the elements were somehow accidently right for the creation of life is a probability of 1:1040,000; (that is a probability of 1 to 10 followed by 40,000 zeros) And these unimaginable probabilities do not even start to explain the complexities of life and our human consciousness.

The defence may say that we were not there, that we did not see God create the universe and that we have no evidence – that it was all a remarkable accident. He will likely also say that we are just a bunch of delusional Jesus freaks – that we believe in miracles and we have no evidence. I suggest however, without an alternative explanation, the fact that we have a universe with life and consciousness is all the evidence we need for the existence of God.”



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 28-Jun-19 09:53 by Robert Jameson.

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Re: The goldfish analogy 375 Robert Jameson 22-Jun-19 12:27
Re: The goldfish analogy 388 Susan Doris 22-Jun-19 15:04
Re: The goldfish analogy 381 Eddie Larry 22-Jun-19 19:16
Making something up is terrific and necessary in Science IF 382 drrayeye 22-Jun-19 21:44
Everything is natural 375 greengirl5 23-Jun-19 00:12
Don't stop there 383 drrayeye 23-Jun-19 00:47
Re: Don't stop there 381 hendrik dirker 23-Jun-19 03:35
I met Thomas Kuhn once, Hendrik, 373 drrayeye 23-Jun-19 05:34
From my 'Out of left field' file 373 Robert Jameson 23-Jun-19 09:55
Re: From my 'Out of left field' file 391 Susan Doris 23-Jun-19 12:52
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The paper clip analogy 372 Robert Jameson 23-Jun-19 00:27
Re: The paper clip analogy and chance 384 greengirl5 23-Jun-19 05:07
Monkeys bashing typewriters does not stack up 378 Robert Jameson 23-Jun-19 10:09
I believe you! 364 greengirl5 23-Jun-19 12:23
science jargon 380 drrayeye 23-Jun-19 06:54
Re: The goldfish analogy 376 Darryl Sloan 24-Jun-19 17:56
big bang 373 drrayeye 24-Jun-19 23:45
Re: big bang 372 Robert Jameson 25-Jun-19 03:18
Re: big bang 358 Susan Doris 25-Jun-19 05:16
Science vs. philosophy vs. pop culture 370 drrayeye 25-Jun-19 06:56
Re: Science vs. philosophy vs. pop culture 378 Susan Doris 25-Jun-19 07:15
There is more to science 367 drrayeye 25-Jun-19 12:10
Re: Science vs. philosophy vs. pop culture 378 Eddie Larry 26-Jun-19 21:51
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Rant of the month 371 drrayeye 27-Jun-19 08:30
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Teach your children 371 drrayeye 28-Jun-19 03:36
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Re: Evidence for a creator 377 Robert Jameson 29-Jun-19 07:52
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Re: Evidence for a creator 372 Susan Doris 30-Jun-19 04:52
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the kingdom of God is within you 374 drrayeye 25-Jun-19 20:36
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Re: the kingdom of God is within you 356 greengirl5 26-Jun-19 07:10
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Me 370 greengirl5 26-Jun-19 03:08
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July coming up 362 greengirl5 26-Jun-19 07:41
Cosmic consciousness-theism! 375 greengirl5 26-Jun-19 07:50
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love from above 389 drrayeye 26-Jun-19 23:51
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Kohlberg 359 drrayeye 27-Jun-19 08:06
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No time! ? ? 359 greengirl5 30-Jun-19 23:49
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It's not in the text 384 drrayeye 26-Jun-19 21:25
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How Suart saves his family 376 drrayeye 27-Jun-19 08:17
Re: How Suart saves his family 381 Susan Doris 27-Jun-19 11:07
No 375 drrayeye 27-Jun-19 18:21
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Let's try a different approach 365 drrayeye 28-Jun-19 15:42
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You are a good guy! 386 greengirl5 28-Jun-19 23:51
Farewell, everyone! 388 Darryl Sloan 30-Jun-19 20:22
Re: Farewell, everyone! 362 drrayeye 30-Jun-19 23:11
lets hear it for the universe 368 jazzmumbles 01-Jul-19 00:55
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