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Hi, GG. Sorry for the delay; I almost missed this one ...

greengirl5 Wrote:
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> Now, if we use the analogy of the ocean being all
> there is, a single drop of water is also the
> ocean, but not if it is thrown up in the air. Then
> it is a drop of water. It WAS the ocean before.

I feel that a better analogy is the ocean and the wave. You can look at several waves, they are separate from each other, but each one is inseparable from "ocean". There is no specific point at which the wave ends and the ocean begins.

> My own consciousness is also a bit lost as long as
> it is in my body. It is separated from the whole.
> People with near death and out of body experiences
> know something I don't.

I could equally say that my four-year-old self knows something I don't, because I have forgotten everything I experienced at that age. So is that a separate person? We say no. If you look carefully at consciousness, you can see that EVERYTHING that is not in your immediate awareness right now is separate from consciousness. So the lack of awareness you possess about what another person has experienced isn't any more fundamental a separation than the things that you have experienced which you can no longer remember.

When we use words like "I" and "you", are these really entities? Consciousness is better thought of as a verb than a noun. It's a doing, not a being. It's a coming into focus of the Universe, and it's in continual flux. It has no shape, materialistically. So there are all these different focal points of consciousness, walled off from each other. But they aren't objects in and of themselves. There's no entity called "the self". There is just what the Universe is doing here ... and there ... and over there.

I think of ESP as a kind of bleeding of the barrier that I'm talking about. And how do we do it? By non-thinking, of course (as with PK). By adjusting the focal setting so that the usual rules of "mind" do not apply. And ESP shows that we're not separate, by virtue of the ability of consciousness to bleed like this beyond the apparent barrier of the brain.

Non-duality.
I, Universe.
I = Universe.
Everything is one.

Darryl

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Parapsychology and wonderment 35324 Darryl Sloan 03-Jun-19 19:34
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 567 greengirl5 03-Jun-19 23:08
u-tube 556 greengirl5 04-Jun-19 03:54
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Re: u-tube 535 Darryl Sloan 04-Jun-19 19:02
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Re: u-tube 508 greengirl5 04-Jun-19 22:29
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Re: Meaningful dreams 521 greengirl5 04-Jun-19 22:46
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 528 PB Bytes 04-Jun-19 22:29
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 538 greengirl5 04-Jun-19 23:08
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 522 Eddie Larry 05-Jun-19 01:08
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 533 greengirl5 05-Jun-19 03:15
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 613 Eddie Larry 05-Jun-19 20:51
Who was Jesus? 561 Darryl Sloan 06-Jun-19 11:27
Re: Who was Jesus? 516 greengirl5 06-Jun-19 14:37
Re: Who was Jesus? 564 PB Bytes 06-Jun-19 15:49
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Winter solstice 2012 522 greengirl5 07-Jun-19 22:40
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Re: Winter solstice 2012 509 greengirl5 07-Jun-19 23:51
Re: Who was Jesus? 522 Darryl Sloan 08-Jun-19 20:16
Questions 535 drrayeye 08-Jun-19 20:47
Re: Questions 559 Darryl Sloan 10-Jun-19 19:02
Re: Questions and maybe some answers? 514 greengirl5 11-Jun-19 00:03
Re: Questions and maybe some answers? 507 Darryl Sloan 14-Jun-19 09:28
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Re: Questions 511 Darryl Sloan 14-Jun-19 09:13
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Re: Scientists and Dualism 529 drrayeye 17-Jun-19 16:10
Re: Scientists and Dualism 521 Susan Doris 17-Jun-19 17:25
Consciousness and the perceptual environment 491 drrayeye 18-Jun-19 04:10
Re: Who was Jesus? 528 PB Bytes 08-Jun-19 21:11
Re: Who was Jesus? 521 Darryl Sloan 10-Jun-19 19:20
A scholarly alternative 536 drrayeye 07-Jun-19 06:46
Re: A scholarly alternative 520 Darryl Sloan 10-Jun-19 19:09
Re: A scholarly alternative 546 Eddie Larry 11-Jun-19 21:19
Re: A scholarly alternative 519 greengirl5 11-Jun-19 22:11
Re: A scholarly alternative 552 Eddie Larry 11-Jun-19 22:21
Re: A scholarly alternative 528 SandyJesse 15-Jun-19 05:14
Re: A scholarly alternative 494 Darryl Sloan 17-Jun-19 11:23
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Re: A scholarly alternative 526 Darryl Sloan 13-Jun-19 11:58
Re: A scholarly alternative 514 Eddie Larry 13-Jun-19 14:04
Re: A scholarly alternative 503 Darryl Sloan 17-Jun-19 11:28
Re: A scholarly alternative 510 Eddie Larry 17-Jun-19 13:08
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After the resurrection...... 523 greengirl5 18-Jun-19 06:02
Re: After the resurrection...... 497 Eddie Larry 18-Jun-19 13:32
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Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 528 Darryl Sloan 06-Jun-19 10:05
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 509 Darryl Sloan 05-Jun-19 14:48
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 520 PB Bytes 05-Jun-19 15:37
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 520 Darryl Sloan 06-Jun-19 10:55
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 520 PB Bytes 06-Jun-19 15:38
au contraire 543 drrayeye 04-Jun-19 23:15
Re: au contraire 502 Darryl Sloan 05-Jun-19 15:05
Re: au contraire 529 drrayeye 05-Jun-19 19:56
Re: au contraire 523 Darryl Sloan 06-Jun-19 10:08
Re: au contraire 519 greengirl5 06-Jun-19 13:48
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Re: au contraire 544 PB Bytes 06-Jun-19 16:16
Consciousness 525 greengirl5 06-Jun-19 23:27
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Re: Consciousness 523 Darryl Sloan 13-Jun-19 11:50
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Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 583 greengirl5 07-Jun-19 07:47
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 545 Susan Doris 07-Jun-19 07:53
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 523 greengirl5 07-Jun-19 23:59
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 534 Darryl Sloan 08-Jun-19 19:22
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 523 greengirl5 08-Jun-19 22:44
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 527 Susan Doris 09-Jun-19 05:23
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 534 SandyJesse 09-Jun-19 06:24
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 551 Susan Doris 09-Jun-19 07:19
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 527 greengirl5 09-Jun-19 09:12
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 532 Susan Doris 09-Jun-19 10:03
There it is again 515 greengirl5 09-Jun-19 12:07
Re: There it is again 517 Susan Doris 09-Jun-19 14:49
You know? 539 greengirl5 10-Jun-19 00:36
Re: You know? 520 Susan Doris 10-Jun-19 10:49
Re: You know? 526 greengirl5 10-Jun-19 13:47
Re: You know? 520 Eddie Larry 11-Jun-19 00:09
Re: You know? 490 Eddie Larry 11-Jun-19 21:43
Re: You know? 502 greengirl5 11-Jun-19 21:58
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 539 SandyJesse 10-Jun-19 06:38
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 542 greengirl5 10-Jun-19 09:48
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Re: How to make gold 507 Darryl Sloan 17-Jun-19 11:07
Re: How to make gold 531 Susan Doris 17-Jun-19 17:31
Re: How to make gold 494 Darryl Sloan 18-Jun-19 08:15
Re: How to make gold 520 Susan Doris 18-Jun-19 09:41
Re: How to make gold 518 greengirl5 18-Jun-19 13:10
Re: How to make gold 516 Susan Doris 18-Jun-19 13:37
Re: How to make gold 511 greengirl5 18-Jun-19 23:30
Re: How to make gold 516 drrayeye 18-Jun-19 18:09
Re: How to make gold 512 greengirl5 18-Jun-19 23:14
Re: How to make gold 497 Darryl Sloan 20-Jun-19 11:44
The "para" is not going away, it is getting stronger. 499 greengirl5 20-Jun-19 23:32
Re: The "para" is not going away, it is getting stronger. 489 Susan Doris 21-Jun-19 09:43
Re: The "para" is not going away, it is getting stronger. 487 greengirl5 21-Jun-19 12:18
Re: How to make gold 495 Susan Doris 21-Jun-19 06:18
Re: How to make gold 492 greengirl5 21-Jun-19 12:14
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Re: How to make gold 506 greengirl5 21-Jun-19 23:30
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Re: How to make gold 499 greengirl5 22-Jun-19 06:26
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Re: How to make gold 501 greengirl5 22-Jun-19 23:49
Re: How to make gold 487 Darryl Sloan 24-Jun-19 18:25
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Re: How to make gold 487 Susan Doris 25-Jun-19 05:57
Great advice to scientists! 505 greengirl5 25-Jun-19 07:24
Re: Great advice to scientists! 480 Susan Doris 25-Jun-19 10:07
Re: Great advice to scientists! 502 greengirl5 26-Jun-19 00:25
a very creative scientist shares his insights 496 drrayeye 25-Jun-19 11:50
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Re: How to make gold 467 Darryl Sloan 24-Jun-19 18:09
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Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 489 greengirl5 25-Jun-19 00:31
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 477 Susan Doris 25-Jun-19 06:05
Re: Parapsychology and wonderment 473 greengirl5 25-Jun-19 07:11
Big consciousness, little consciousness. 466 greengirl5 25-Jun-19 02:37


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