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That is a good one, Poster Boy! 1618! As a lover of all that stuff with Fibonacci's I can see how you must find it interesting. But why would the universe have put those numbers on an old writing, just to prove a point? A bit far fetched, however, all my number 26'es in my family is also weird. Are they something to do with structures, or just sign posts? Some of course will say "coincidence" but that is the easy way out.

:). GG.

Poster Boy Wrote:
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> I have always found this passage to be
> interesting, On the point you raise, it is
> recorded that Jesus said, "I will build my church,
> and the gates of Hades will not overcome it"
> (Matthew 16:18).
>
> What I find fascinating, is that 1.618 is the
> number for Phi, which in turn is the basis for the
> Fibonacci sequence, which in turn is known to
> relate, throughout nature, to renewal or
> regeneration. In the case of the Fibonacci
> sequence, the sequence is based on the renewal of
> the same arithmetic function, of adding the two
> adjacent numbers in the sequence to get the next
> one in the sequence. Dividing the greater number
> next to the adjacent smaller one produces
> ever-closer approximations to 1.618, hence the
> 'golden ratio'.
>
> As a mathematical metaphor, the verse Matt 16.18
> is highly complementary to the Fibonacci's noted
> properties. That's because this story is believed
> to involve Jesus appointing Peter as the first
> leader of the Church, aka the first Pope. In
> other words, Peter is regarded, as a tenet of
> Catholic dogma, as the first person in a line of
> succession that is in turn based on
> renewal.
>
> Those are the facts. Whether it is a random
> coincidence is one thing, but at times like this I
> think it is fair and reasonable comment to mention
> a mechanism to which self-professed rational (as
> in reasonable) humans are seen to defer: As
> improbability rises, at a certain point 'chance'
> is seen to be a poor if not irrelevant explanation
> of events.
>
> Finally, if anyone is interested, here's a link to
> a related post where 1618 appears, at a quite
> perfect time, in thematic (renewal) relation to
> the turning of the Mayan Long Count calendar.
>
> [grahamhancock.com]
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