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Susan, I think NOW is very different from the past. We are close to disaster, big scale. Just think of the oceans being choked with rubbish. The deep oceans. Unbelievable.
I congratulate your country for going coal free now. I wish Australia would be so smart.
I remember in the 1960'es, late sixties, I said to an engineer at work. What would happen when the earth runs out of resources, not exactly thinking 50 years later. He laughed at me and said more or less it would not happen for a long, long time. What are the experts saying now?
The resources which will not run out for a long time are wind and solar. Not enough? Think of something! Don't leave all the decisions to the capitalists. They first of all have their own interest at heart. Here in Australia they also manage to pay very little tax. Working people do not escape that easily. But if the rich paid their share the whole country would benefit.
An Indian billionaire wants to dig up our coal and ruin the Great Barrier Reef and suck up our ground water. That is the worst capitalism case I can think of.

I must not get too political here, only say that in two weeks we have an important election. Fingers crossed!

GG.



Susan Doris Wrote:
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> I agree with all that Eddie says. Your views just
> will not work, although the sentiments are
> probably good. I recommend reading the chapter on
> Capitalism in 'Sapiens sapiens' by Yuval Noah
> Harari. I did not understand every word, but that
> chapter made more sense about capitalism than
> anything I'd heard before.
>
> It is all very well to have idealistic solutions,
> but it is the practical working solutions that are
> needed and, because the general human capacity to
> find ways of getting through problems has, in the
> long run, ensured our survival, I think the
> positive actions and ideas will be and do enough
> to carry our species forward.
>
> Susan
>
> Pegi Eyers Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Thank you for your questions and comments
> Eddie.
> > One could say there is a gap between the vision
> > and the reality, but I think the question is -
> how
> > can we go on being complicit with an economic
> > system (capitalism) that is on carbon overload,
> > and whose end goal is to destroy all life on
> > earth? There are countless solutions on the
> table
> > right now such as alternative economies,
> regional
> > economies, gift economies and other manifestos
> > such as The Leap, Drawdown and Green New Deal
> > which seek to keep carbon in the ground.
> >
> > We have to do something! My work, and my book
> > "Ancient Spirit Rising" is about finding
> > time-tested ways to change our thinking
> patternsb
> > and community actions by decolonizing and using
> > Indigenous societies as our model. It makes as
> > much sense as any other social-cultural path
> > happening right now! And if the apocalypse
> truly
> > does come to pass, survivors will probably be
> > living in small-scale bioregional groups once
> > again, sustainable and bonded to place, which
> is
> > the very definition of "Indigenous."
> >
> > As I say in my book "Ancient Spirit Rising" -
> > “Decolonize now, voluntarily, intentionally,
> > with full awareness and the selective use of
> > resources, OR, decolonize later under duress
> and
> > hardship, as a dramatic response to traumatic
> > conditions when the current economic paradigm
> > reaches the limits of its sustainability. But
> > decolonize you must, or fade away with the
> > memories of a lost civilization.”



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Ancient Spirit Modern Voice 4242 Pegi Eyers 07-May-19 22:16
Re: Ancient Spirit Modern Voice 541 PB Bytes 08-May-19 01:53
Re: Ancient Spirit Modern Voice 548 Pegi Eyers 08-May-19 16:59
Re: Ancient Spirit Modern Voice 542 Eddie Larry 08-May-19 21:15
Re: Ancient Spirit Modern Voice 514 Pegi Eyers 08-May-19 22:06
Re: Ancient Spirit Modern Voice 518 Eddie Larry 08-May-19 22:24
Decolonization... 471 PB Bytes 09-May-19 00:24
Re: Decolonization... 521 Pegi Eyers 09-May-19 06:08
Re: Decolonization... 554 Susan Doris 09-May-19 12:16
Re: Decolonization... 470 Pegi Eyers 09-May-19 15:13
Re: Decolonization... 482 Susan Doris 09-May-19 16:58
Re: Decolonization... 482 Pegi Eyers 09-May-19 17:36
Re: Decolonization... 452 Susan Doris 10-May-19 05:07
Misunderstanding? 467 greengirl5 10-May-19 07:35
Re: Misunderstanding? 499 Susan Doris 10-May-19 09:17
Re: Misunderstanding? 479 greengirl5 10-May-19 11:27
Re: Misunderstanding? 477 Susan Doris 10-May-19 13:32
Re: Decolonization... 467 Pegi Eyers 10-May-19 16:18
Re: Decolonization... 478 Susan Doris 11-May-19 05:57
Re: Decolonization... 457 PB Bytes 09-May-19 14:30
Re: Decolonization... 456 Pegi Eyers 09-May-19 15:36
Re: Decolonization... 457 PB Bytes 09-May-19 17:29
Re: Ancient Spirit Modern Voice 493 Susan Doris 09-May-19 05:09
Close to midnight before disaster 462 greengirl5 09-May-19 05:48
Re: Close to midnight before disaster 461 Susan Doris 09-May-19 12:26
Re: Ancient Spirit Modern Voice 517 greengirl5 09-May-19 05:58
Re: Ancient Spirit Modern Voice 478 Pegi Eyers 09-May-19 06:32
illusion of endless growth. 468 greengirl5 08-May-19 23:49
Re: illusion of endless growth. 480 greengirl5 09-May-19 00:09
Re: illusion of endless growth. 487 Pegi Eyers 09-May-19 04:25
Doomsday clock 480 greengirl5 09-May-19 06:46
Compounding Economic and Technological Growth. 479 PB Bytes 10-May-19 16:51
Re: Compounding Economic and Technological Growth. 476 Pegi Eyers 11-May-19 02:28
Huge subject 481 greengirl5 11-May-19 06:12
Re: Compounding Economic and Technological Growth. 470 PB Bytes 11-May-19 06:17
Re: Compounding Economic and Technological Growth. 465 greengirl5 11-May-19 06:49
Creating and incentivizing comprehensive Civil self defense 453 PB Bytes 11-May-19 16:08
Re: Creating and incentivizing comprehensive Civil self defense 468 greengirl5 11-May-19 22:04
Re: Creating and incentivizing comprehensive Civil self defense 477 PB Bytes 12-May-19 00:14
Re: Creating and incentivizing comprehensive Civil self defense 449 greengirl5 12-May-19 08:04
Re: Creating and incentivizing comprehensive Civil self defense 465 Susan Doris 12-May-19 04:55
Re: Creating and incentivizing comprehensive Civil self defense 482 greengirl5 12-May-19 08:07
The Little People! 482 Pegi Eyers 22-May-19 20:38
Re: The Little People! 444 greengirl5 23-May-19 23:26
Beacons of fires in the landscape 450 greengirl5 25-May-19 05:52
Re: The Little People! 463 Pegi Eyers 27-May-19 00:23
Irrational humanity? 463 greengirl5 26-May-19 06:08
Re: Irrational humanity? 799 Pegi Eyers 27-May-19 20:33


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