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thirdpal Wrote:
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> Jim Vieira Wrote:
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> > A case can be made that maybe atmospheric
> > conditions were different say 12,000 years ago
> > that supported Megafaua and Megaflora and maybe
> > much larger humans.
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> No, it can't. says Aine
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> Not trying to be a smart a__, Aine, but why not?
> You seem to be saying in one of your earlier posts
> that cold climates spawned large creatures, even
> today - the polar bear, which to my understanding
> is a grizzly bear that migrated to the arctic
> region, thus apparently growing larger.

They are not human beings. Stabilizing selection ensures that there is a genetic limit. Not only that, but atmospheric conditions are less important than food supply and the abundance of calories and nutrients. While some may well have been outside that range, ice age humans were no larger than we are now except in one regard: their bones and musculature were more robust because of their physical activity. Neanderthals were no more cold adapted than Cro Magnon and averaged 5'6". Show me an extremely large human from anywhere in the world dated to the Ice Age. Just one will do. Even Kennwick Man was only 5'9". How big was Otzi? 5'5". But once you produce the skeleton you have to prove its age.

Humans are adapted for warmth, not cold. We evolved in the rainforests of Africa and later the savannahs. There's a reason why we Yankees and Canadians fly south after retirement, and why 90% of the population of Canada lives within 200 miles of the border. Because we don't like being cold.

It's all well and good to speculate on the age of those supposed giant remains, but you have no evidence of any kind to support your position. All you did was resort to special pleading and moving the goalposts. But the fact remains that you don't have a leg to stand on here.



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