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Terrymacro wrote:

> I have never mentioned a specific year - I mentioned a specific
> century. It seens reasonable that an age such as the age of
> Aquarius should arrive in a specific century. And if I was
> searching for a specific year, how would you possibly know that
> this is a mistake?

What I'm saying is that Jesus Christ didn't have to arrive in the exact year or century that marked the transition from one age to another... however, there are references to precession in the Bible and Christ helped to define the new age... and I'm not talking about Churchianity, which is something else!

Chapter 22 of the Gospel of Luke describe the events which occur prior to Jesus' arrest and subsequent crucifixion. The disciples ask Jesus where they shall meet him to prepare for his final Passover (The Last Supper). In Luke 22:10 Jesus responds:

"Behold, when ye are entered into the city, there shall a man meet you, bearing a pitcher of water; follow him into the house where he entereth in."

The "man bearing a pitcher of water" to be a direct reference to the symbol of Aquarius, the water-bearer. And furthermore, Jesus' instructions to his followers that they follow this man "into the house where he entereth in" seems to strengthen the connection to astrological symbolism.

> Around 2,000 years ago there was a change in the general
> consciousness of humanity??? I must have missed this in my
> history books. What change in consciousness? It certainly
> could not have been by Christians otherwise we would have to
> explain to all those people murdered, executed, burnt at the
> stake or persecuted by Christians over the last 2,000 years
> that their killers had higher consciousness so it is all OK.
> There is nothing to indicate that Christians are any worse or
> better than the rest of humanity. If you are going to judge a
> tree by its fruit the Christian tree seems to produce some good
> fruits, mostly average fruits and some downright rotten and
> disgusting fruit in a bell curve like most religions or groups
> of people.
> Historians on the other hand consider that the
> Judeo-Greco-Roman Western heritage was forged in the 6th, 7th
> and 8th centuries BC and that the modern world arrived around 5
> centuries ago.
> Reputable astrologers state that of all the branches of
> astrology, the one that contains the most nonesense is the
> branch of the astrological ages. How will regurgitating
> nonesense on the ages bring any clarity on the ages?

Of course Churchianity became guilty of many terrible crimes, but the advent of Christ did change the world, making it a more dynamic place. So much of our current civilisation has been influenced by what Christ said. One only needs to look at the arts to see how different our artistic cultural heritage differs from pre-Christ times... The following touching and moving quote is from a letter Oscar Wilde wrote while in Reading Jail (the letter also known as "De Profundis"):


He understood the leprosy of the leper, the darkness of the blind, the fierce misery of those who live for pleasure, the strange poverty of the rich.

He has all the colour elements of life; mystery, strangeness, pathos, suggestion, ecstasy, love. He appeals to the temper of wonder, and creates that mood in which alone he can be understood.

The great sins of the world take place in the brain; but it is in the brain that everything takes place... It is in the brain that the poppy is red, that the sky is blue, that the skylark sings.

There is one subject on which and through which I would like to express myself and that is 'Christ as the precursor of the romantic movement in life'.

The subject is intensely fascinating because I see in Jesus, not merely the essentials of the supreme romantic type, but all the accidents, the wilfulnesses even, of the romantic temperament also.

He was the first person who ever said to people that they should live 'flower-like lives.' He fixed the phrase. He took children as the type of what people should try to become!

More of Oscar Wilde on Christ, in his De Profundis:


"...he who would lead a Christ-like life must be entirely and absolutely himself... [for] more than anyone else in history [Christ] wakes in us that temper of wonder to which romance always appeals. ...as he passed by on the highway of life people who had seen nothing of life's mystery saw it clearly ... And above all, Christ is the most supreme of individualists. ...It is a man's soul that Christ is always looking for. ...That is because one realizes the soul only by getting rid of all alien passions, all acquired culture, and all external possessions, be they good or evil. ...Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation. Christ was not merely the supreme individualist, but he was the first individualist in history. ...He appeals to the temper of wonder, and creates that mood in which alone he can be understood.

Abbott Joachim Fiore of Florence (1130 - 1202 AD)

Abbott Joachim Fiore of Florence (1130 - 1202 AD), who was a native of Calabria, in Southern Italy, spoke openly about these different epochs but he was met with displeasure from the Church because it was not free from heretical ways of thinking.

For example, the Abbott supported the view that the renewal of the world would have to proceed, not from some worldly institution but solely from the spirit. When the Pharisees asked Christ "when the Kingdom of God should come", he answered, "The Kingdom of God comes not with observation: neither shall they say, look here! or look there! for, behold, the Kingdom of God is within [among] you." - Luke 17:20-21

Of course, precession is linked with the Houses of the Zodiac and at the present time, the world is crossing from one "House" to another... from the age of Pisces, the fish, into the age of Aquarius, the water bearer.

The Age of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit

The Israelites lived in the Age of Aries, depicted by the Ram, also known as the "Age of the Father". This began with Abraham and ended at the birth of Christ. The mind-set, in the age of Aries, was much harsher, hence the Levitical Laws.

Following the "Age of the Father", the "Age of the Son" introduced a generally milder mind-set, characterised by a deeper understanding of love and compassion and the finer things in life.

One of Abbot Joachim de Fiore's most well known predictions concerned the Church of Rome: "The Church of Rome shall be destroyed in the Third State (the Age of the Holy Spirit), as the Synagogue of the Jews was destroyed in the Second State (the Age of the Son - Christ) and the spiritual church shall henceforth succeed, to the end of the world", he said.

We are now entering into the age of Aquarius, the "Age of the Holy Spirit" and this is characterised by a male figure pouring water from a vessel. These waters relate to the "Waters of Life", as spoken of in Revelation:

"And he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of God and of the Lamb down the middle of its broad way." - Revelation 22:1-2a

This transition into the Aquarian age, we are now having the privilege of living through, is another great cosmic turning point in which everything that was once dead, is raised to life. What has, up until now, been slumbering in man, often unbeknown to man, is awakening and becoming strong, whether it be towards good or evil but Darkness shall, under enormous pressure, eventually give way to Light.

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Re: Are we at the end of an Age? 160 Terrymacro 08-Apr-08 09:23
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Re: Are we at the end of an Age? 171 Terrymacro 09-Apr-08 06:02
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Re: Are we at the end of an Age? 112 Terrymacro 10-Apr-08 11:03
Abbott Joachim Fiore of Florence 166 Milo 10-Apr-08 11:18
Astrology without Limits 196 Terrymacro 11-Apr-08 06:47
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