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> > Lol - meat is not a requirement of a healthy balanced diet
> and
> > it is inelegant of you to suggest that it is. Simply put -
> meat
> > is a convenient scource of protein, that happens to have some
> > vitamins in one package that must be garnered in more
> > convoluted ways via plant matter. People do not eat meat
> > because they have to, but because they want to.[/u]
> Exactly, it's a life choice.


As is bullfighting - what kind of specious reasoning is that?

> > Well what you meant is a logical fallacy - Our inability to
> > recognise fear or pain or mental anguish in an animal we
> > slaughter does not indicate an absence of torture. Maybe in a
> > tabloid headline - not to a person who requires a little
> > reason. There is as much evidence to say that dust mites live
> > in a state of perpetual ecstacy as there is to say that
> > slaughtered animals don't undergo torture.
> It's not a fallacy. Bull fihtinh is for entertainment, to see
> an animal die in a horrbiel way, it has nothing to do with food
> preparation, it is a fallacy for you to say they are
> comparable. They aare not.
> Intent and method are different.


By that reasoning, as long as I don't intend to torture someone I won't be torturing them - as long as I do it in a method that is acceptable to your sensibilities and because it is more convenient to me than an alternative - a 'life choice' as you put it?

regds, martin.



==
'When I despair I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it-always.'

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Should bull fighting be banned? 146 Milo 13-Jun-07 20:15
Re: Should bull fighting be banned? 68 saki 13-Jun-07 20:26
Re: Should bull fighting be banned? 120 Raja 13-Jun-07 20:35
YES!!!!YES!!!!YES!!!! 122 quixote 13-Jun-07 22:53
Re: YES!!!!YES!!!!YES!!!! 121 Nolondil 15-Jun-07 00:38
yes n/t 125 Halbared 13-Jun-07 22:58
Re: yes n/t 125 Me 14-Jun-07 00:02
Re: yes n/t 117 Ghia 14-Jun-07 00:46
why not add fox and deer hunting in Great Britain etc...? 92 Joyeuse 14-Jun-07 01:15
Re: why not add fox and deer hunting in Great Britain etc...? 116 Ghia 14-Jun-07 01:23
Re: why not add fox and deer hunting in Great Britain etc...? 117 Milo 14-Jun-07 23:17
Re: Should bull fighting be banned? 119 Citizen Attorney 14-Jun-07 01:40
Re: Should bull fighting be banned? 97 quixote 14-Jun-07 02:09
Running with the bulls 118 Citizen Attorney 15-Jun-07 00:19
Re: Running with the bulls 92 quixote 15-Jun-07 02:29
Re: Running with the bulls 119 Citizen Attorney 15-Jun-07 14:40
Re: Running with the goats 84 Raja 15-Jun-07 20:13
Re: Running with the goats 106 Citizen Attorney 15-Jun-07 21:41
Re: Running with the goats 124 Raja 16-Jun-07 09:18
Re: Running with the goats 116 Citizen Attorney 16-Jun-07 14:50
Re: Running with the goats 114 Raja 16-Jun-07 15:45
Re: Running with the bulls 109 NetWorkAngel 15-Jun-07 21:19
Re: Should bull fighting be banned? 115 Hoppy 14-Jun-07 22:18
How about bull eating? 117 David L 14-Jun-07 04:23
Re: How about bull eating? 149 s-d.adrain 14-Jun-07 11:21
Re: How about bull eating? 115 Joyeuse 14-Jun-07 12:05
I can't imagine the Royals being deprived of their fave passtime... 126 Joyeuse 14-Jun-07 12:10
Re: I can't imagine the Royals being deprived of their fave passtime... 172 s-d.adrain 14-Jun-07 12:49
Fox sideline 150 tortoise 14-Jun-07 13:27
Re: Fox sideline 157 s-d.adrain 14-Jun-07 13:35
Re: Fox sideline 155 tortoise 14-Jun-07 14:19
Re: Fox sideline 125 Halbared 14-Jun-07 13:56
Re: Fox sideline 140 tortoise 14-Jun-07 14:13
Re: Fox sideline 148 s-d.adrain 14-Jun-07 14:19
Re: Fox sideline 116 Halbared 14-Jun-07 14:21
Re: Fox sideline 162 tortoise 14-Jun-07 14:31
Re: Fox sideline 114 Halbared 14-Jun-07 21:00
Re: I can't imagine the Royals being deprived of their fave passtime... 115 Hoppy 14-Jun-07 22:23
What about Fishing ? 140 tortoise 14-Jun-07 13:32
Re: What about Fishing ? 160 s-d.adrain 14-Jun-07 13:39
Re: What about Fishing ? 105 Halbared 14-Jun-07 13:58
Re: What about Fishing ? 159 s-d.adrain 14-Jun-07 14:00
Re: What about Fishing ? 157 tortoise 14-Jun-07 14:34
Re: What about Fishing ? 152 s-d.adrain 14-Jun-07 15:19
Re: What about Fishing ? 115 tortoise 15-Jun-07 09:50
Re: What about Fishing ? 97 David L 14-Jun-07 14:42
Re: What about Fishing ? 121 Citizen Attorney 15-Jun-07 00:10
Re: Should bull fighting be banned? 111 ananda 14-Jun-07 16:58
Re: Should bull fighting be banned? 104 Halbared 14-Jun-07 21:03
Re: Should bull fighting be banned? 119 quixote 14-Jun-07 22:47
Re: Should bull fighting be banned? 116 Ghia 14-Jun-07 23:28
Re: Should bull fighting be banned? 117 quixote 14-Jun-07 23:58
Re: Should bull fighting be banned? 68 Halbared 15-Jun-07 23:18
Re: Should bull fighting be banned? 112 Ghia 15-Jun-07 23:36
hmm. 93 come on pilgrim 14-Jun-07 21:14
Re: hmm. 118 Hoppy 14-Jun-07 22:48
Re: hmm. 77 Halbared 15-Jun-07 23:22
Re: hmm. 127 Hoppy 15-Jun-07 23:49
Re: hmm. 108 Milo 16-Jun-07 00:22
Re: hmm. 115 Hoppy 16-Jun-07 03:24
Re: hmm. 103 Milo 16-Jun-07 19:58
Re: hmm. 155 tortoise 15-Jun-07 09:58
Re: hmm. 114 Halbared 15-Jun-07 23:21
Re: hmm. 117 Halbared 15-Jun-07 23:23
No. 117 come on pilgrim 15-Jun-07 01:11
Re: No. 128 Halbared 15-Jun-07 23:24
Re: No. 119 come on pilgrim 16-Jun-07 01:01
Re: No. 117 Halbared 17-Jun-07 13:25
carnivore conscience. 123 come on pilgrim 18-Jun-07 12:29
Re: carnivore conscience. 124 Halbared 23-Jun-07 10:15
Re: carnivore conscience. 134 come on pilgrim 23-Jun-07 13:27
Re: carnivore conscience. 114 Halbared 23-Jun-07 14:13
Re: carnivore conscience. 75 come on pilgrim 23-Jun-07 14:39
Re: carnivore conscience. 131 Halbared 23-Jun-07 14:43
Re: carnivore conscience. 116 come on pilgrim 23-Jun-07 15:06
Re: carnivore conscience. 117 Halbared 23-Jun-07 15:13
Re: carnivore conscience. 119 come on pilgrim 23-Jun-07 15:49
vegetarianism fad 117 Halbared 23-Jun-07 15:58
Re: vegetarianism fad 73 come on pilgrim 23-Jun-07 16:11
Re: vegetarianism fad 119 Halbared 23-Jun-07 16:17
Re: vegetarianism fad 126 Halbared 23-Jun-07 16:21
Re: vegetarianism fad 112 come on pilgrim 23-Jun-07 16:24
Re: vegetarianism fad 119 Halbared 23-Jun-07 16:25
Re: vegetarianism fad 119 Raja 23-Jun-07 17:24
Re: vegetarianism fad 115 Halbared 23-Jun-07 17:28
Re: vegetarianism fad 114 lobo-hotei 23-Jun-07 18:34
Re: vegetarianism fad 121 Raja 23-Jun-07 19:05
Re: vegetarianism fad 101 lobo-hotei 23-Jun-07 21:03
vegetarians and religion 125 Raja 23-Jun-07 17:12
Re: vegetarians and religion 117 Halbared 23-Jun-07 17:21
Re: Should bull fighting be banned? 122 Deep1 15-Jun-07 01:42
Re: Should bull fighting be banned? 119 ananda 15-Jun-07 13:41
Re: Should bull fighting be banned? 114 Avatar 16-Jun-07 22:46


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