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Raja wrote:

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>
> Somehow I think you wouldn't hesitate to kill a "poor" creature
> in the wild to survive whether for food or defensive reasons.
>
> Hi Lobo,
>
> You're greatly underestimating the vegetarian mind...in search
> for food, grass is a very good food source. The earth provices
> us with fruits, seeds and nuts, so what else do we really need
> ?

No I am not. Vegetarians can do much but not in the winter time and/or in an emergency. Plane crash in deep snow and how much grass, nuts, and seeds will the vegetarian be eating?


> Besides a more loving attitude towards fellow creatures, who
> share equal rights to live out their destinies.

So why kill one of the "loving creatures", in self defense, if they are living out their destinies and attack you? Sitting in a comfortable environment and espousing this stuff is great and noble, but in the real world where life and death happen at a moment's notice then those poor snakes will die, those poor rabbits, squirrels, deer, ducks, fish, etc. wil die to put food in the mouths of starving people.

One well placed shot can feed a half dozen people for a week or two vs. grazing every day for hours. Try throwing out some seeds for a garden and see how long it takes to get food from it in an emergency situation.

I know of people who max out the hunting license and feed their family well thru the year and alot cheaper then buying it from the grocery stores. These people have to do so being the finances are low. They grow gardens and have chickens, pigs, and cows also to help supplement their family's needs but killing an animal to feed your family is somehow frowned upon by some like David where he still keeps his personal "right" to kill an animal to survive.
Well ,these people kill to survive too yet they eat what they kill and David would only kill it to "gain a few more years to his life". Which is more of a waste?

Vegetarians can live how they see fit but for David to judge all others "ignorant" unable to achieve higher enlightenment, or be as good as some "karmic believing", mystic, vegetarian is arrogant and definitely not in line with teachngs that I have read and I don't mean only the ones I want to believe in.


>The digesting
> of meat creates anger in the system.

In some I imagine it would. In others it might not. My daughter is borderline hypoglycemic and at times anemic. She will hve dark spots under her eyes yet I can feed her red meat(good source of iron) for a week and she will not hve these spots nor will she feel lethargic or weak for up to a month so I don't see how "the digesting of meat creates anger" in everyone.
Yes iron supplements and high iron non-meat alternatives are used but it doesn't work as well as a simple steak or organ meat. I am about the same way but not as bad. I have a better feeling when eating meat then a strict vegetarian/low meat diet can create for me.

Regards,
Lobo-hotei
lobo


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question of animal entitlements... 176 debraregypt 03-Feb-06 15:18
Re: question of animal entitlements... 74 Gengus 03-Feb-06 16:45
Re: question of animal entitlements... 62 David L 03-Feb-06 16:53
Re: question of animal entitlements... 77 lobo-hotei 03-Feb-06 17:53
Re: question of animal entitlements... 103 David L 03-Feb-06 22:19
Re: question of animal entitlements... 132 lobo-hotei 04-Feb-06 00:40
Re: question of animal entitlements... 120 David L 04-Feb-06 15:50
Re: question of animal entitlements... 128 lobo-hotei 04-Feb-06 18:19
Re: question of animal entitlements... 61 David L 04-Feb-06 21:00
Re: question of animal entitlements... 105 Marduk 04-Feb-06 21:11
Re: question of animal entitlements... 108 David L 05-Feb-06 04:33
Re: question of animal entitlements... 101 Marduk 05-Feb-06 13:20
Re: question of animal entitlements... 126 lobo-hotei 05-Feb-06 19:23
Re: question of animal entitlements... 58 David L 05-Feb-06 22:09
Re: question of animal entitlements... 64 debraregypt 05-Feb-06 22:30
Re: question of animal entitlements... 111 David L 06-Feb-06 04:36
Re: question of animal entitlements... 67 Marduk 06-Feb-06 04:53
Re: question of animal entitlements... 60 come on pilgrim 06-Feb-06 14:08
Re: question of animal entitlements... 102 lobo-hotei 06-Feb-06 03:24
Re: question of animal entitlements... 68 Marduk 06-Feb-06 03:46
Re: question of animal entitlements... 61 David L 06-Feb-06 04:42
Re: question of animal entitlements... 108 debraregypt 06-Feb-06 13:16
Re: question of animal entitlements... 109 Marduk 06-Feb-06 14:57
Re: question of animal entitlements... 102 David L 06-Feb-06 17:49
Re: question of animal entitlements... 85 Marduk 06-Feb-06 17:59
Re: question of animal entitlements... 108 David L 06-Feb-06 18:52
Re: question of animal entitlements... 101 Marduk 06-Feb-06 19:01
Re: question of animal entitlements... 108 David L 06-Feb-06 20:09
Re: question of animal entitlements... 62 Marduk 06-Feb-06 21:15
Re: question of animal entitlements... 115 Raja 06-Feb-06 21:39
Re: question of animal entitlements... 69 Marduk 06-Feb-06 21:41
Re: question of animal entitlements... 114 Raja 06-Feb-06 21:58
Re: question of animal entitlements... 116 debraregypt 06-Feb-06 22:03
Re: question of animal entitlements... 115 David L 06-Feb-06 21:48
Re: question of animal entitlements... 61 David L 06-Feb-06 04:39
Re: question of animal entitlements... 136 lobo-hotei 06-Feb-06 18:38
Re: question of animal entitlements... 110 Raja 06-Feb-06 21:49
Re: question of animal entitlements... 135 lobo-hotei 06-Feb-06 22:04
Re: question of animal entitlements... 111 Marduk 06-Feb-06 22:22
Re: question of animal entitlements... 119 Raja 06-Feb-06 21:34
Re: question of animal entitlements... 87 Marduk 06-Feb-06 21:38
Re: question of animal entitlements... 105 debraregypt 06-Feb-06 21:50
Re: question of animal entitlements... 68 Raja 06-Feb-06 21:51
Re: question of animal entitlements... 115 Marduk 06-Feb-06 22:23
Re: question of animal entitlements... 129 lobo-hotei 06-Feb-06 22:28
Re: question of animal entitlements... 105 Raja 06-Feb-06 22:47
Re: question of animal entitlements... 118 lobo-hotei 06-Feb-06 23:26
Re: question of animal entitlements... 117 debraregypt 07-Feb-06 00:58
Re: question of animal entitlements... 69 debraregypt 07-Feb-06 00:56
advocating devilry.... 109 come on pilgrim 04-Feb-06 00:55
Re: advocating devilry.... 110 David L 04-Feb-06 15:34
Re: advocating devilry.... 113 Gengus 04-Feb-06 16:52
My liver? I've been force-feeding myself to make it succulent for you 62 come on pilgrim 09-Feb-06 00:15
Re: My liver? I've been force-feeding myself to make it succulent for you 101 debraregypt 09-Feb-06 12:34
Re: My liver? I've been force-feeding myself to make it succulent for you 94 debraregypt 09-Feb-06 12:47
Re: My liver? I've been force-feeding myself to make it succulent for you 74 come on pilgrim 09-Feb-06 13:39
Try the Mediterranean diet 62 Raja 09-Feb-06 20:11
Re: Try the Mediterranean diet 62 debraregypt 10-Feb-06 02:31
Re: Try the Mediterranean diet 59 Raja 10-Feb-06 22:22
Re: My liver? I've been force-feeding myself to make it succulent for you 108 Raja 09-Feb-06 13:28
Re: question of animal entitlements... 95 Gengus 03-Feb-06 17:55
Re: question of animal entitlements... 105 debraregypt 03-Feb-06 18:53
Re: question of animal entitlements... 117 Richard Fusniak 03-Feb-06 19:39
Re: question of animal entitlements... 106 quixote 03-Feb-06 20:08
Re: question of animal entitlements... 115 Gengus 03-Feb-06 21:05
Re: question of animal entitlements... 108 quixote 04-Feb-06 07:25
Re: question of animal entitlements... 59 David L 03-Feb-06 22:33
Re: question of animal entitlements... 100 Gengus 03-Feb-06 22:52
Re: question of animal entitlements... 63 Hoppy 05-Feb-06 01:24


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