> > Read your "matter of degree" tree of karmic debt above.
> > According to you plants don't rank as high as humans or
> > used for meat. How convenient.
> You're being obtuse.
I am? Funny how you answer my answer with the same thing I said.
> Plants are on their way to becoming
> animals, animals are on their way to becoming human, humans are
> on their way to becoming super-human. Do you honestly believe
> that the consciousness of a plane is equal to that of a dog or
So you are proving my point. Thanks! Plants aren't on the level with animals. Animals aren't on the same level as humans and humans aren't on the same level as "super-humans". Simply put they aren't equal.
Yes. All organisms are equal. Except to those who have a need to "believe" they are superior in some way.
> > I will remind you that you said that if a criminal ever
> > into your house and you "protect" your family.
> I will do that, but I don't own a gun and never will.
Who said anything about a gun. Your personal choice though I don't see how the ownership of a firearm will prevent a person from reaching enlightenment.
Your acceptance of having to take a life, and the free will choice to do so, shows that you are of no higher level now then that of any other human or animal showing parent traits. So much for Rumi and the "mystic" path.
> > Nice but you ain't Rumi.
> How do you know? In any case, he is correct and I agree with
> him, as do all mystics. He was speaking for every being, not
> just himself.
Rumi walks it. You talk it. You can agree all you want but it doesn't make it necessarily right, or wrong, or the only path as you believe.
As for "all mystics".... I doubt it.
>Man you are obtuse...
What's my weight got to do with it? Is there a weight limit on the express elevator to nirvana now?
> > How can you insist that there isn't if you haven't reached
> > enlightenment?
> > Sounds like the patient becoming the doctor after having
> > viewed their own X-ray images.
> > There are other ways to get there but they aren't your way.
> > it a fear that your path might not be the best, or easiest,
> > way?
> Whatever...we're through here.
Thanks for the confirmation! See ya!
Oh one more thing ..... still no answer.
Somehow I think you wouldn't hesitate to kill a "poor" creature in the wild to survive whether for food or defensive reasons.