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Peter's problem is that he invokes an intellectual double standard. Here he SEEMS to be trying to ridicule we can explore inferences beyond what the most shallow arguments present. Rather than address that intelligently, he ducks the whole matter. I've seen that from him before, as I've seen it with other skeptics here. Not that the skeptics don't have good points, sometimes they do. But dumbed down comments like this bring nothing to the table, and in my opinion Petey really knows better.

He wrote a lovely piece to explain why it can be reasonably inferred that the pyramids were tombs for the pharoahs, when the evidence directly supporting this is so scant. In order to sustain his hypothesis, he has to ignore, completely, the fact that the GP was found to have a TOTALLY empty 'king's chamber' inside a pyramid that was sealed for millennia.

Peter did a very fine work showing how we can INFER, in spite of the outright lack of direct evidence, that the pyramids were used as tombs. My guess is that he does this for the sake of the politics surrounding the conversation, and that he doesn't want to risk being seen as sympathetic to those who might think other than the way he and his ortho gang does. If this is true, then I can only say 'too bad', because to my mind it would be so constricting having to look over your shoulder every time you are confronted with a new idea, to see if your equally insecure buddies might call you out, make fun of you, and so on.

So, in other words, this style of reasoning is, to Peter's mind, legitimate. Yet here he completely rejects that standard and tries to make fun of it when it comes to the serious research that is done on CCs, and what he **knows** is the flagrant poverty of the Doug and Dave boardstomping explanation.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I believe I detect peer pressure here. How safe it is to tow the party line when it comes to the absurd inferential assumptions regarding the pyramids in this case. Not saying the research isn't good, it seemed excellent, but when people are content to completely ignore glaring facts like the finding of an empty 'king's chamber', it does seem like something other than, and far less than, true intellectual rigor is in play.

Little wonder, if this is actually true, that somebody with as fine a discriminating mind as Peter's would duck this conversation entirely, totally overlooking the finer points of the discussion. How absurd that he uses precisely this line of thinking and presentation to support one position, the Egypt ortho one, while ridiculing it when it points in another direction. This is precisely the kind of paradoxical inconsistency one would expect from somebody playing a quiet game of politics, rather than the pursuit of truth, because in politics, shallowness and intellectual hypocrisy are fair game - as they are to the immature, that is, people who never really grow up.

Maybe I'm wrong here. I may well be. But I suspect he's part of some sort of Skeptic's Gang and is well enough aware that his peer group will follow his every word, and that that might have ramifications on his 'rep' in due course. It's all so middle school if you ask me. I can practically see the lot of them now, behind the school gym now, in their bomber jackets, plotting their next dastardly deed as they pose for the gals, trying to look cool..

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Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 161 SphinxGirl 02-Aug-09 12:13
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Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 131 Jal Phoenix 02-Aug-09 16:16
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Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 143 equestrian 02-Aug-09 18:57
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 153 paxton 02-Aug-09 21:58
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 122 Jal Phoenix 03-Aug-09 05:32
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 157 paxton 03-Aug-09 08:46
I would say you haven't... 124 Anomalies 03-Aug-09 19:03
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 124 papalou 13-Aug-09 01:46
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 128 Richard Fusniak 13-Aug-09 13:33
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 151 R and M 13-Aug-09 13:55
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 140 Richard Fusniak 13-Aug-09 14:35
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 136 The Kwuda 13-Aug-09 14:44
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 112 R and M 14-Aug-09 03:30
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 108 papalou 15-Aug-09 19:00
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 154 Richard Fusniak 15-Aug-09 20:13
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 111 papalou 16-Aug-09 03:57
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 183 papalou 16-Aug-09 04:19
Moderator Caution 141 JonnyMcA 15-Aug-09 21:18
Re: Moderator Caution 129 papalou 16-Aug-09 03:59
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 134 Anomalies 17-Aug-09 17:43
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 147 Richard Fusniak 17-Aug-09 20:59
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 98 martinpescatore 13-Aug-09 07:07
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 163 papalou 15-Aug-09 19:05
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 132 Nebankh 03-Aug-09 00:12
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 147 R and M 03-Aug-09 04:31
WHAT? 133 Deep1 03-Aug-09 05:48
Re: WHAT? 143 R and M 04-Aug-09 04:31
Re: WHAT? 145 R and M 04-Aug-09 04:44
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 142 Me 04-Aug-09 01:23
Re: The Rense crop circle 133 Nebankh 04-Aug-09 01:29
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 126 equestrian 04-Aug-09 03:26
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 136 spitfire888 04-Aug-09 02:09
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 146 drone-note 04-Aug-09 14:52
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 118 Deep1 04-Aug-09 16:22
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 139 drone-note 04-Aug-09 16:39
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 149 dmatherly 04-Aug-09 18:09
They are all over the world 142 debraregypt 05-Aug-09 01:52
good point 150 equestrian 05-Aug-09 03:15
Re: good point 144 Anomalies 05-Aug-09 14:19
Re: They are all over the world 141 paxton 05-Aug-09 12:58
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 138 Pete Vanderzwet 05-Aug-09 07:15
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 123 R and M 05-Aug-09 10:02
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 145 Anomalies 05-Aug-09 14:07
sooo shallow 144 equestrian 05-Aug-09 15:51
Re: sooo shallow 151 Pete Vanderzwet 05-Aug-09 19:04
Re: sooo shallow 144 gaylenb 05-Aug-09 20:26
Yellow Card to Eq 110 equestrian 06-Aug-09 03:30
Re: Yellow Card to Eq 147 Pete Vanderzwet 06-Aug-09 08:07
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 141 poster72 05-Aug-09 16:31
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 140 equestrian 05-Aug-09 16:42
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 146 gaylenb 05-Aug-09 16:50
The Skeptic's Gang... 138 equestrian 05-Aug-09 17:18
For the Skeptic's Gang... 143 Anomalies 05-Aug-09 18:16
Re: For the Skeptic's Gang... 110 poster72 06-Aug-09 20:18
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 148 poster72 05-Aug-09 17:40
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 135 Anomalies 05-Aug-09 19:07
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 153 paxton 05-Aug-09 16:52
Like this,poster72? 138 hut 05-Aug-09 18:06
Re: Like this,poster72? 112 Pete Vanderzwet 05-Aug-09 19:59
Re: Like this,poster72? 114 gaylenb 05-Aug-09 20:30
Re: Like this,poster72? 119 Pete Vanderzwet 05-Aug-09 20:35
Re: Like this,poster72? 143 R and M 06-Aug-09 04:45
Re: Like this,poster72? 121 gaylenb 05-Aug-09 20:28
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 100 R and M 06-Aug-09 04:20
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 127 Anomalies 05-Aug-09 17:12
concentration 136 lukehancock 05-Aug-09 19:44
History 181 s-d.adrain 13-Aug-09 07:28
Interesting Youtube video on crop circles Milo and Deep1 143 spitfire888 13-Aug-09 07:13
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 152 iroquois warrior 15-Aug-09 21:41
A Rational, Bottom-Up Analysis 148 Deep1 17-Aug-09 18:20
Re: A Rational, Bottom-Up Analysis 139 paxton 17-Aug-09 19:27
Re: A Rational, Bottom-Up Analysis 133 Deep1 17-Aug-09 19:42
Re: A Rational, Bottom-Up Analysis 129 spitfire888 17-Aug-09 20:34
Re: A Rational, Bottom-Up Analysis 158 paxton 18-Aug-09 15:48
Re: A Rational, Bottom-Up Analysis 142 Richard Fusniak 18-Aug-09 16:53
Re: A Rational, Bottom-Up Analysis 153 paxton 18-Aug-09 19:43
Re: A Rational, Bottom-Up Analysis 123 Richard Fusniak 18-Aug-09 19:51
Re: A Rational, Bottom-Up Analysis 126 paxton 18-Aug-09 21:05
Re: A Rational, Bottom-Up Analysis 131 Richard Fusniak 18-Aug-09 22:19
Re: A Rational, Bottom-Up Analysis 152 paxton 18-Aug-09 23:18
Re: A Rational, Bottom-Up Analysis 142 Richard Fusniak 19-Aug-09 06:30
Re: A Rational, Bottom-Up Analysis 147 R and M 19-Aug-09 07:59
Re: A Rational, Bottom-Up Analysis 106 Richard Fusniak 19-Aug-09 08:59
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 141 spitfire888 16-Aug-09 19:31
Re: Why are most Crop Circles in England? 140 Anomalies 17-Aug-09 17:49


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