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Hi Graham,

"It is wrong to characterise this route to healing -- particularly the Ayahuasca route to healing -- as "psychedelic". "



Hi Graham,

It was actually Lynn who started this thread and used the term "psychedelic", not me. She also said (admitted) that she had tried Blue Lotus. I hardly think it is fair to say I am bracketing the 'route to healing' in a certain way when this term is found frequently in connection with shamanic plants. Juggling with mere words.

What's clear to me is that a bodily detoxification of substances is absolutely essential and well before consuming shamanistic plant potions. This pre-cleansing process could very well in itself be an alleviating factor in in reducing migraines; certainly the vomitting and diahorea would cleans out your system of toxins even more effectively, as would any powerful laxative for that matter.

Could you please comment on your dietary habits before and after trying shamanistic plants, Graham. The question remains as to why your migraines returned, albeit reduced. This makes me suspect you have and still are consuming something in Western everyday life that causes them.


Cheers,
Fuzzy

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migraines and psychedelics 1242 lynnv 09-Dec-06 04:40
Re: migraines and psychedelics 466 Richard Fusniak 09-Dec-06 10:11
Re: migraines and psychedelics 435 Raja 09-Dec-06 10:17
Re: migraines and psychedelics 374 Psychedelic Wonders 09-Dec-06 14:50
Re: migraines and psychedelics 419 lynnv 09-Dec-06 16:17
Re: migraines and psychedelics 463 Psychedelic Wonders 09-Dec-06 18:56
Re: migraines and psychedelics 332 Raja 09-Dec-06 20:04
Re: migraines and psychedelics 456 Michael Hayes 09-Dec-06 20:14
Re: migraines and psychedelics 416 lynnv 09-Dec-06 22:42
Re: migraines and psychedelics 341 Richard Fusniak 10-Dec-06 15:57
Re: migraines and psychedelics 388 lynnv 09-Dec-06 16:16
Re: migraines and psychedelics 397 David L 09-Dec-06 17:53
Re: migraines and psychedelics 372 lynnv 09-Dec-06 22:35
Re: migraines and psychedelics 399 Hoppy 09-Dec-06 22:04
Re: migraines and psychedelics 358 lynnv 09-Dec-06 22:37
Re: migraines and psychedelics 377 Hoppy 09-Dec-06 22:45
Moderator note 379 Richard Fusniak 09-Dec-06 22:52
Re: Moderator note 426 lynnv 09-Dec-06 22:56
Re: Moderator note 370 Richard Fusniak 09-Dec-06 23:02
Full-blown migraines 519 lynnv 09-Dec-06 23:26
Full-blown migraines 439 Richard Fusniak 10-Dec-06 00:16
Re: Full-blown migraines 344 lynnv 10-Dec-06 00:56
Re: Full-blown migraines 375 Richard Fusniak 10-Dec-06 01:05
Re: Full-blown migraines 349 debraregypt 10-Dec-06 01:22
Re: Full-blown migraines 516 lynnv 10-Dec-06 16:23
Re: Full-blown migraines 517 Gigatron 10-Dec-06 17:01
Re: Full-blown migraines 383 lynnv 10-Dec-06 17:44
Acupuncture 451 Raja 10-Dec-06 17:38
Re: Acupuncture 356 lynnv 10-Dec-06 17:45
Re: Acupuncture 364 Raja 10-Dec-06 17:56
Re: Acupuncture 437 Raja 10-Dec-06 18:02
Laxatives 385 Richard Fusniak 10-Dec-06 18:22
Re: Laxatives 485 Raja 10-Dec-06 18:29
Re: Laxatives 424 Raja 11-Dec-06 17:22
Re: Laxatives 472 debraregypt 14-Dec-06 12:16
Re: Full-blown migraines 378 Hoppy 10-Dec-06 00:18
Re: Full-blown migraines 542 Richard Fusniak 10-Dec-06 00:28
Re: Full-blown migraines 355 lynnv 10-Dec-06 01:21
Re: Full-blown migraines 350 Psychedelic Wonders 10-Dec-06 15:30
Re: Full-blown migraines 1091 lynnv 10-Dec-06 16:16
Halluciongens may not be cracked up to be total cure 369 Richard Fusniak 10-Dec-06 16:38
Re: Halluciongens may not be cracked up to be total cure 394 Susan Doris 11-Dec-06 08:01
Re: Halluciongens may not be cracked up to be total cure 379 Richard Fusniak 11-Dec-06 16:08
Re: Halluciongens may not be cracked up to be total cure 489 debraregypt 14-Dec-06 12:19
Re: Full-blown migraines 351 lynnv 11-Dec-06 22:58
Re: Full-blown migraine 349 David L 10-Dec-06 16:25
Re: Full-blown migraine 413 lynnv 10-Dec-06 17:46
A rare disease, Cronic Vomiting syndrome and ... 373 W_C_Sally 12-Dec-06 23:58
Re: A rare disease, Cronic Vomiting syndrome and ... 340 lynnv 13-Dec-06 00:07
Re: A rare disease, Cronic Vomiting syndrome and ... 380 Richard Fusniak 13-Dec-06 02:00
Re: A rare disease, Cronic Vomiting syndrome and ... 390 debraregypt 14-Dec-06 12:22
Re: migraines and psychedelics 3732 Graham Hancock 11-Dec-06 09:34
Re: migraines and psychedelics 447 lynnv 11-Dec-06 16:56
Ayahuasca and vomiting 389 David L 13-Dec-06 02:04
Ayahuasca Route 516 kelpy 13-Dec-06 16:11
Re: Ayahuasca Route 365 lynnv 13-Dec-06 16:41
Re: Ayahuasca Route 351 Raja 14-Dec-06 07:00
Re: migraines and psychedelics 338 Psychedelic Wonders 14-Dec-06 02:09
Re: migraines and psychedelics 396 ingi 12-Dec-06 15:47
Re: migraines and psychedelics 489 lynnv 12-Dec-06 17:45
Quakery 476 Richard Fusniak 12-Dec-06 18:18
Re: Quakery 364 lynnv 12-Dec-06 18:56
Coffee, florescent lights and CRT screens 459 Richard Fusniak 13-Dec-06 02:07
Re: Coffee, florescent lights and CRT screens 352 lynnv 13-Dec-06 02:37
Re: Coffee, florescent lights and CRT screens 373 debraregypt 15-Dec-06 00:24
Re: Coffee, florescent lights and CRT screens 358 Raja 15-Dec-06 06:48
Re: Coffee, florescent lights and CRT screens 360 lynnv 15-Dec-06 17:07
Re: Coffee, florescent lights and CRT screens 370 Raja 15-Dec-06 17:28
Re: Coffee, florescent lights and CRT screens 366 lynnv 15-Dec-06 17:35
Quakeapathy 446 ingi 14-Dec-06 14:31
Re: Quakeapathy 325 lynnv 14-Dec-06 17:06
Like cures like 455 Raja 14-Dec-06 17:50
Re: migraines and psychedelics 327 David L 13-Dec-06 02:06
Re: migraines and psychedelics 514 Raja 15-Dec-06 13:06
Re: migraines and parasites 377 debraregypt 15-Dec-06 14:07
Re: migraines and parasites 391 Richard Fusniak 15-Dec-06 16:32
Re: migraines and parasites 360 lynnv 15-Dec-06 17:08
'Stop trying to be my doctor' 390 Richard Fusniak 15-Dec-06 19:14
Re: 'Stop trying to be my doctor' 324 lynnv 15-Dec-06 19:47
Re: 'Stop trying to be my doctor' 416 Richard Fusniak 15-Dec-06 21:51
Not "psychedelic" but shamanistic. There is a big difference. 422 Graham Hancock 16-Dec-06 10:46
Re: Not "psychedelic" but shamanistic. There is a big difference. 363 lynnv 16-Dec-06 21:52
Re: Not "psychedelic" but shamanistic. There is a big difference. 451 W_C_Sally 17-Dec-06 09:56
Re: Not 376 Richard Fusniak 17-Dec-06 17:14
Re: Not 392 debraregypt 17-Dec-06 17:28
Re: Not 495 lynnv 17-Dec-06 17:34
Re: Not 487 debraregypt 17-Dec-06 17:42
Re: Not 351 lynnv 17-Dec-06 18:42
10 patients on gluten-free diet, 7 cured 403 Richard Fusniak 17-Dec-06 18:58
Re: 10 patients on gluten-free diet, 7 cured 383 lynnv 17-Dec-06 20:00
Re: 10 patients on gluten-free diet, 7 cured 338 Richard Fusniak 17-Dec-06 20:32
Re: 10 patients on gluten-free diet, 7 cured 519 Raja 28-Jan-09 06:27
Re: Not 337 Graham Hancock 18-Dec-06 14:47
Re: Not 349 lynnv 18-Dec-06 17:46
Re: Not "psychedelic" but shamanistic. There is a big difference. 392 kurtr 22-Dec-06 17:39
Re: migraines and parasites 496 debraregypt 16-Dec-06 14:36
Re: migraines and parasites 360 Richard Fusniak 16-Dec-06 15:54
Re: migraines and parasites 471 debraregypt 16-Dec-06 16:01
Re: migraines and parasites --curatives-- keep us in the loop!t 344 W_C_Sally 17-Dec-06 10:00
Re: migraines and parasites --curatives-- keep us in the loop!t 377 debraregypt 17-Dec-06 13:24
Re: migraines and parasites 351 Richard Fusniak 17-Dec-06 15:17
Re: migraines and parasites 507 debraregypt 17-Dec-06 16:17
Re: migraines and parasites 385 Richard Fusniak 17-Dec-06 16:43
Re: migraines and parasites 394 debraregypt 17-Dec-06 17:15
Re: migraines and parasites 422 Richard Fusniak 17-Dec-06 17:18
Re: migraines and parasites 353 debraregypt 17-Dec-06 17:25
Re: migraines and parasites 358 Richard Fusniak 17-Dec-06 18:38
Re: migraines and parasites 365 debraregypt 17-Dec-06 18:53
Re: migraines and psychedelics 356 sharloten 06-Jan-07 04:29
Re: migraines and psychedelics 384 lynnv 06-Jan-07 04:55
Re: migraines and psychedelics 429 debraregypt 06-Jan-07 15:35
Re: migraines and psychedelics 374 lynnv 06-Jan-07 16:00
Re: migraines and psychedelics 343 Richard Fusniak 06-Jan-07 16:06
Re: migraines and psychedelics 386 lynnv 06-Jan-07 16:22
Re: migraines and psychedelics 489 Richard Fusniak 06-Jan-07 16:46
Re: migraines and psychedelics 349 lynnv 06-Jan-07 17:48
Re: migraines and psychedelics 360 Richard Fusniak 06-Jan-07 18:01
Re: migraines and psychedelics 371 lynnv 06-Jan-07 18:11
Re: migraines and psychedelics 373 Richard Fusniak 06-Jan-07 18:25
Re: migraines and psychedelics 379 sharloten 06-Jan-07 22:55
Re: migraines and psychedelics 318 Raja 07-Jan-07 05:47
Re: migraines and psychedelics 387 Psiloscribe 06-Jan-07 22:51
Re: migraines and psychedelics 398 lynnv 06-Jan-07 23:04
Re: migraines and psychedelics 389 Psiloscribe 06-Jan-07 23:11
Re: migraines and psychedelics 410 W_C_Sally 28-Jan-09 23:02
Re: migraines and psychedelics 387 afriendofomadaepsilon 30-Jan-09 06:51
Imigran-sumitriptan-Full circle. 501 Chaka 30-Jan-09 13:27


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