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I'm afraid I need evidence that we owe those technologies to aliens.


You don’t need evidence, but you want proof-i-ness. . . Certainly no points taken off for curiosity. Many of the technologies available back then simply took bits’n’parts and integrated ideas and hypothesized functions to further developments already underway because of post war concerns. An amalgamation of ingredients and observations, so to speak, probably best describes early research and development as it was – still does actually. Don’t take this the wrong way, but I’m not obligated to do your bidding, besides it’s the classic security measure not to be available, anyway, not even from the manufacturers as it’s not meant to be traceable. . . Nor will I give you click bait links to some lame story. . . Air gaps work wonders in many trades and this is one of them. . . Beliefs are a fickle-thing and they’re best left alone. Manufacturers aren’t obligated either, as it could be deemed as industrial espionage from their perspective and the inquisitor made a person of interest. They take their patents and profits very seriously in a capitalist economy.

If truly interested you could set out on your own investigation to research and inquire where they’re fabricated and manufactured as well as do a historical check on the basic ideas and their formulation into usable hardware - or simply do without knowing like many people do - not caring where the ideas or technology came from or how long it was in the making for consumer purchase, just so long as it works . . . *click,* *tap,* *swipe.* There’s actually quite a bit that goes into an end product such as a device that extends an otherwise limited sensory apparatus as human vision.


You could simply mark those developments down to gifts of fire, I suppose, but don’t blame Prometheus . . . And I a crank. . . I’m not concerned as name calling is bunk anyway. . . Appreciate that inquiry, though, and half expected it and knew an easy out answer wouldn’t be forthcoming, too, as it’s not meant to be. . . Ask yourself, “Do magicians reveal their secrets before their stage show?” . . . They deliberately mean to test ones skills of observation for slight-of-hand maneuvers. It’s unfortunate, but knowing too much puts one at risk in this not-so-safe world. I might have been better off not participating on an open forum subject to nefarious searches, but I chose to add to a discussion not resolve it as research and development is on going with or without beliefs. . .Besides, credibility is easily fabricated to be convincing and what was said remains plausible without proof-i-ness.

“Be sure you’re right . . . then go ahead.” ~ Davy Crockett

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"Mind like parachute, must be open to function." ~ Charlie Chan - Famous Chinese detective character

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The Pentagon's UFO Program 4493 Aine 17-Dec-17 19:48
Mod Note > Topic Moved 618 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Dec-17 20:10
Fighter aircraft 741 Reagent 17-Dec-17 21:13
Re: Fighter aircraft 679 Aine 17-Dec-17 21:24
Oh please! 618 Reagent 17-Dec-17 22:40
Re: Oh please! 556 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:55
Apologies! 586 Reagent 17-Dec-17 23:14
Re: Apologies! 545 Aine 17-Dec-17 23:17
No Worries 526 Reagent 18-Dec-17 03:43
Re: No Worries 541 Archaic 18-Dec-17 03:54
Familiar acronym 509 Reagent 19-Dec-17 20:56
Re: No Worries 502 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:31
Fun, too 561 Reagent 18-Dec-17 18:51
Re: Fun, too 487 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:59
Language conundrum 515 Reagent 19-Dec-17 04:58
Re: Fun, too 426 altered-state 28-Mar-18 04:56
Not so safe secrecy 476 Reagent 29-Mar-18 09:17
Re: Not so safe secrecy 619 altered-state 29-Mar-18 15:01
We are not alone: Alien Presence 647 Sirhope 19-Dec-17 07:13
We are not alone; neither are they 511 Reagent 19-Dec-17 08:47
Re: We are not alone; neither are they 513 Sirhope 19-Dec-17 09:34
We are not alone; neither are they 540 Reagent 19-Dec-17 12:03
Title 14, Section 1211 of U.S. Federal Code: 531 Reagent 19-Dec-17 18:11
Re: Oh please! 509 Archaic 17-Dec-17 23:16
Re: Fighter aircraft 509 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:46
Some context of what we're seeing in video 609 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:36
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 626 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:48
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 520 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:54
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 488 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:56
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 486 Aine 17-Dec-17 23:14
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 475 Archaic 17-Dec-17 23:54
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 542 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:35
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 570 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:47
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 457 Archaic 18-Dec-17 01:04
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 468 Loki74 18-Dec-17 01:22
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 487 Archaic 18-Dec-17 01:46
Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 521 Archaic 18-Dec-17 02:35
Re: Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 527 Loki74 18-Dec-17 11:01
Re: Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 401 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:29
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 474 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:22
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 570 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 03:44
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 470 jeffreyw 18-Dec-17 03:47
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 480 Archaic 18-Dec-17 04:07
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 462 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:33
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 530 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:50
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 474 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 05:10
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 549 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:49
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 545 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 17:41
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 508 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:10
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 547 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 18:25
1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 531 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 18:35
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 523 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:38
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 439 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 18:43
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 223 Archaic 25-Jun-19 10:01
2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 487 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 18:41
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 452 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:50
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 462 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 18:58
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 444 Aine 18-Dec-17 19:03
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 479 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 19:06
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 464 Aine 18-Dec-17 19:08
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 467 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 19:09
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 480 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:43
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 400 Aine 28-Mar-18 13:02
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 413 altered-state 28-Mar-18 15:26
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 389 Aine 29-Mar-18 00:40
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 467 altered-state 29-Mar-18 01:32
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 531 Susan Doris 18-Dec-17 06:41
just got and started reading Leslie Kean's book on my kindle 475 greengirl5 18-Dec-17 07:02
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 537 Archaic 18-Dec-17 07:20
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 476 Susan Doris 18-Dec-17 10:09
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 483 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:56
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 535 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 17:34
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 431 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:46
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 468 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 18:12
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 444 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:14
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 450 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 18:22
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 467 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:39
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 549 Anomalies 01-Mar-18 20:11
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 388 Aine 28-Mar-18 00:08
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 404 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:46
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 449 Anomalies 01-Mar-18 20:03
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 558 Vanya 18-Dec-17 07:36
Already posted 521 drrayeye 18-Dec-17 08:50
Re: Already posted 541 Vanya 18-Dec-17 10:09
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 552 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:54
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 469 Vanya 19-Dec-17 07:03
This today 546 PB Bytes 20-Dec-17 00:58
Re: This today 582 Aine 20-Dec-17 01:03
Re: This today 475 Aine 20-Dec-17 18:40
High hopes! 460 greengirl5 20-Dec-17 22:11
Re: High hopes! 445 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:11
Zimbabwae UFO case 488 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:26
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 475 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:31
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 492 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:41
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 490 Aine 21-Dec-17 02:02
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 427 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:13
Could this be it? 492 greengirl5 21-Dec-17 03:18
Re: Could this be it? 449 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:18
And the one I could/did find... 476 Racho 21-Dec-17 05:34
Re: This today 515 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:23
Re: This today 499 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:25
Re: This today 424 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:23
Re: This today 470 Nolondil 21-Dec-17 01:27
Re: This today 469 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:31
Re: This today 449 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:39
Re: This today 488 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:52
Re: This today 446 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:57
Re: This today 444 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:00
very limited consideration imv 457 Racho 21-Dec-17 01:34
Re: very limited consideration imv 476 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:37
try to envision 438 Racho 21-Dec-17 01:47
Re: try to envision 472 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:50
Re: try to envision 424 Nolondil 21-Dec-17 02:23
Re: try to envision 478 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:24
Re: try to envision 457 Racho 21-Dec-17 06:19
Re: try to envision 447 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:53
Re: try to envision 511 Aine 21-Dec-17 17:47
Re: This today 460 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:34
Other angles 583 Reagent 21-Dec-17 07:50
Re: Other angles 491 Aine 21-Dec-17 15:09
Other angles; in progress and deployed 470 Reagent 21-Dec-17 19:00
Re: Other angles; in progress and deployed 489 Aine 21-Dec-17 21:31
In progress and deployed 418 Reagent 22-Dec-17 00:30
Re: In progress and deployed 451 Aine 22-Dec-17 00:59
Re: This today 471 PB Bytes 22-Dec-17 16:43
Re: This today 495 Aine 22-Dec-17 20:39
Re: This today 455 PB Bytes 22-Dec-17 21:58
Re: This today 419 Aine 22-Dec-17 23:37
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 478 WhoWeird 20-Dec-17 21:32
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 477 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:54
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 462 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 02:18
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 449 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:27
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 441 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 12:44
Are all these kids corrupted? 459 Racho 21-Dec-17 06:27
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 437 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 12:51
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 445 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 13:21
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 467 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:59
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 476 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:51
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 474 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:22
CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 557 Archaic 21-Dec-17 20:44
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 538 Aine 21-Dec-17 21:29
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 513 drrayeye 21-Dec-17 23:53
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 519 Aine 22-Dec-17 02:24
disbelievers? 487 drrayeye 22-Dec-17 18:11
Re: disbelievers? 497 Aine 22-Dec-17 20:33
Re: disbelievers? 510 drrayeye 23-Dec-17 02:48
Re: disbelievers? 471 Aine 23-Dec-17 13:47
You don't see the difference? 477 drrayeye 23-Dec-17 18:41
Re: You don't see the difference? 503 Eddie Larry 23-Dec-17 19:32
Re: You don't see the difference? 564 PB Bytes 23-Dec-17 20:04
Re: You don't see the difference? 533 DUNE 02-Jan-18 16:59
Re: You don't see the difference? 616 Aine 02-Jan-18 18:49
US Navy Finally Opening Up About Odd Aerial Phenomena 246 Race Jackson 27-May-19 20:00
Mod Note > Duplicate Topic Merged 239 Dr. Troglodyte 27-May-19 22:02
HC USA Airing – Time Sensitive 225 Dr. Troglodyte 31-May-19 15:56
Re: HC USA Airing – Time Sensitive 226 Race Jackson 31-May-19 18:27
US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 264 Race Jackson 02-Jun-19 13:18
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 248 WhoWeird 02-Jun-19 13:25
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 248 Race Jackson 02-Jun-19 13:56
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 232 WhoWeird 02-Jun-19 14:01
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 242 Lee McGiffen 03-Jun-19 02:16
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 264 Race Jackson 03-Jun-19 18:44
Mod Note > Duplicate Topic Merged 221 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Jun-19 15:20
Mod Warning > Race Jackson 242 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Jun-19 15:22
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 212 Archaic 25-Jun-19 14:02
Tucker Carlson May 31st 2019 923 Race Jackson 07-Jun-19 00:49
SlaiciffO SoroboruO LaiciffO 271 Dr. Troglodyte 24-Jun-19 17:58
Thoughts 227 Race Jackson 25-Jun-19 15:15
Re: Thoughts 219 Dr. Troglodyte 25-Jun-19 17:00
Re: Thoughts 210 Archaic 26-Jun-19 11:28
Re: Thoughts 314 Dr. Troglodyte 26-Jun-19 16:05
US Navy Encounters Recent 218 Race Jackson 25-Jun-19 15:41


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