Paranormal & Supernatural :  The Official GrahamHancock.com forums
For discussions of everything that might be classed as ‘paranormal‘ - i.e. not currently accepted by our modern scientific paradigm. 
Welcome! Log InRegister
Reagent Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
>
Quote

No worries!
>
> Could you please expand on your position on this?
> A lot of people around here don't understand why
> I'm so open minded on this, but I'd love to hear
> your thoughts.
>
> . . . Given that this is a public forum and
> subject to snoops using web crawlers, web
> sniffers, and web spiders without notice or
> privacy breach concerns I will digress to the
> short answer for now.
>
> I can say with a lot of in-between-the-lines
> fluffy prose I’m retired military and
> jack-of-several trades. . . . Not very informative
> for juicy prime time news I know. But one could
> appear before Congress under oath to testify on
> certain military actions (give my story as witness
> while active duty) where some immunity under law
> might apply. I’m not under a specific gage
> order. Not sworn to secrecy, though, does not
> negate my current obligations and responsibilities
> as a citizen to uphold the rule of law.
>
> I’ve known about some of this stuff – the
> others – flying craft - since I was a child in
> the 1950’s. . . Big deal, I say to those secret
> keepers of government and businesses, get over it
> already . . .The stigma in support of foul agendas
> is revolting even embarrassing as a presumed
> intelligent species as some scholars espouse
> despite their ignorance in these matters. The
> presence or existence of the others is not
> contingent on local terrestrial policies and
> bigotries or an approval rating in the first
> place. That’s my impression from them, anyway,
> for what it is.
>
> It wasn’t until I was active duty military that
> I learned of official regulations, instructions,
> and laws forbidding a citizen (or active duty
> military member) to initiate contact with the
> others on behalf of the Nation’s citizenry as a
> human representative – one of the rules 1211.***
> or something similar as it was the civilian
> version. The military was J***146 or something
> similar (it’s been awhile). . .Both have
> probably changed for security reasons and
> compartmentalization strategies to keep secrets
> from those without current need-to-know
> requirements. I can say this without
> repercussions.
>
> Did you know, it was the operatives in the Army
> and then elected government who started this
> charade and cover up. . . NOT the US Air Force . .
> . they got stuck with the charade while
> establishing a new founded arm of the US military
> months later in 1947 after the big noise and
> Kenneth Arnold aerial flap in the northwest.
> Technically true, too, probably the only non lie
> in this whole known spectacle. Heh Heh
>
> At any rate, my position: We are NOT alone . . .
> Thank you for your interest just the same. It’s
> not misplaced. Continue to scrutinize your
> sources, though. It’s a good habit if not a safe
> one to adopt.
>
> Richard

Thank you for your answer. I've no doubt that a lot of military and former military, as well as civilian pilots, know perfectly well that something is going on. You could say the same about the astronauts, cosmonauts, etc.

My personal view is that the most likely explanation is that UFOs are in fact ET. The trouble is sorting out the wheat from the chaff, the crazy from the not crazy.

Stupidity is knowing the truth, seeing the truth but still believing the lies. And that is more infectious than any other disease. ~ Richard Feynman

Options: ReplyQuote


Subject Views Written By Posted
The Pentagon's UFO Program 4612 Aine 17-Dec-17 19:48
Mod Note > Topic Moved 646 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Dec-17 20:10
Fighter aircraft 774 Reagent 17-Dec-17 21:13
Re: Fighter aircraft 713 Aine 17-Dec-17 21:24
Oh please! 649 Reagent 17-Dec-17 22:40
Re: Oh please! 589 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:55
Apologies! 622 Reagent 17-Dec-17 23:14
Re: Apologies! 576 Aine 17-Dec-17 23:17
No Worries 559 Reagent 18-Dec-17 03:43
Re: No Worries 571 Archaic 18-Dec-17 03:54
Familiar acronym 542 Reagent 19-Dec-17 20:56
Re: No Worries 534 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:31
Fun, too 597 Reagent 18-Dec-17 18:51
Re: Fun, too 518 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:59
Language conundrum 547 Reagent 19-Dec-17 04:58
Re: Fun, too 457 altered-state 28-Mar-18 04:56
Not so safe secrecy 513 Reagent 29-Mar-18 09:17
Re: Not so safe secrecy 650 altered-state 29-Mar-18 15:01
We are not alone: Alien Presence 676 Sirhope 19-Dec-17 07:13
We are not alone; neither are they 539 Reagent 19-Dec-17 08:47
Re: We are not alone; neither are they 542 Sirhope 19-Dec-17 09:34
We are not alone; neither are they 569 Reagent 19-Dec-17 12:03
Title 14, Section 1211 of U.S. Federal Code: 565 Reagent 19-Dec-17 18:11
Re: Oh please! 538 Archaic 17-Dec-17 23:16
Re: Fighter aircraft 543 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:46
Some context of what we're seeing in video 641 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:36
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 654 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:48
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 549 Archaic 17-Dec-17 22:54
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 523 Aine 17-Dec-17 22:56
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 516 Aine 17-Dec-17 23:14
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 507 Archaic 17-Dec-17 23:54
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 568 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:35
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 603 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:47
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 489 Archaic 18-Dec-17 01:04
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 493 Loki74 18-Dec-17 01:22
Re: Some context of what we're seeing in video 518 Archaic 18-Dec-17 01:46
Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 553 Archaic 18-Dec-17 02:35
Re: Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 557 Loki74 18-Dec-17 11:01
Re: Here, Loki - Lazar's Credibility 429 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:29
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 506 Loki74 18-Dec-17 00:22
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 598 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 03:44
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 500 jeffreyw 18-Dec-17 03:47
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 511 Archaic 18-Dec-17 04:07
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 490 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:33
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 561 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:50
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 508 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 05:10
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 576 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:49
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 579 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 17:41
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 535 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:10
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 581 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 18:25
1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 568 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 18:35
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 553 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:38
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 471 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 18:43
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 253 Archaic 25-Jun-19 10:01
2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 522 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 18:41
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 480 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:50
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 495 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 18:58
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 473 Aine 18-Dec-17 19:03
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 515 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 19:06
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 494 Aine 18-Dec-17 19:08
Re: 2 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 497 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 19:09
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 510 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:43
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 428 Aine 28-Mar-18 13:02
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 441 altered-state 28-Mar-18 15:26
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 417 Aine 29-Mar-18 00:40
Re: 1 of 2: The Pentagon's UFO Program 495 altered-state 29-Mar-18 01:32
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 561 Susan Doris 18-Dec-17 06:41
just got and started reading Leslie Kean's book on my kindle 506 greengirl5 18-Dec-17 07:02
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 567 Archaic 18-Dec-17 07:20
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 509 Susan Doris 18-Dec-17 10:09
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 515 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:56
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 564 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 17:34
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 460 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:46
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 504 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 18:12
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 472 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:14
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 477 PB Bytes 18-Dec-17 18:22
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 499 Aine 18-Dec-17 18:39
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 591 Anomalies 01-Mar-18 20:11
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 417 Aine 28-Mar-18 00:08
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 434 altered-state 28-Mar-18 05:46
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 486 Anomalies 01-Mar-18 20:03
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 589 Vanya 18-Dec-17 07:36
Already posted 554 drrayeye 18-Dec-17 08:50
Re: Already posted 573 Vanya 18-Dec-17 10:09
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 585 Aine 18-Dec-17 15:54
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 507 Vanya 19-Dec-17 07:03
This today 577 PB Bytes 20-Dec-17 00:58
Re: This today 615 Aine 20-Dec-17 01:03
Re: This today 509 Aine 20-Dec-17 18:40
High hopes! 489 greengirl5 20-Dec-17 22:11
Re: High hopes! 475 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:11
Zimbabwae UFO case 520 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:26
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 505 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:31
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 528 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:41
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 528 Aine 21-Dec-17 02:02
Re: Zimbabwae UFO case 454 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:13
Could this be it? 524 greengirl5 21-Dec-17 03:18
Re: Could this be it? 481 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:18
And the one I could/did find... 507 Racho 21-Dec-17 05:34
Re: This today 550 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:23
Re: This today 532 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:25
Re: This today 453 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:23
Re: This today 496 Nolondil 21-Dec-17 01:27
Re: This today 499 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:31
Re: This today 480 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:39
Re: This today 518 Archaic 21-Dec-17 01:52
Re: This today 475 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:57
Re: This today 469 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:00
very limited consideration imv 493 Racho 21-Dec-17 01:34
Re: very limited consideration imv 504 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:37
try to envision 467 Racho 21-Dec-17 01:47
Re: try to envision 501 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:50
Re: try to envision 450 Nolondil 21-Dec-17 02:23
Re: try to envision 513 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:24
Re: try to envision 489 Racho 21-Dec-17 06:19
Re: try to envision 484 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:53
Re: try to envision 541 Aine 21-Dec-17 17:47
Re: This today 491 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:34
Other angles 612 Reagent 21-Dec-17 07:50
Re: Other angles 522 Aine 21-Dec-17 15:09
Other angles; in progress and deployed 497 Reagent 21-Dec-17 19:00
Re: Other angles; in progress and deployed 518 Aine 21-Dec-17 21:31
In progress and deployed 448 Reagent 22-Dec-17 00:30
Re: In progress and deployed 482 Aine 22-Dec-17 00:59
Re: This today 503 PB Bytes 22-Dec-17 16:43
Re: This today 525 Aine 22-Dec-17 20:39
Re: This today 484 PB Bytes 22-Dec-17 21:58
Re: This today 449 Aine 22-Dec-17 23:37
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 507 WhoWeird 20-Dec-17 21:32
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 509 Aine 21-Dec-17 01:54
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 492 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 02:18
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 480 Archaic 21-Dec-17 04:27
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 468 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 12:44
Are all these kids corrupted? 489 Racho 21-Dec-17 06:27
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 465 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 12:51
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 473 WhoWeird 21-Dec-17 13:21
Re: Are all these kids corrupted? 497 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:59
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 505 Aine 21-Dec-17 14:51
Re: The Pentagon's UFO Program 500 Archaic 21-Dec-17 02:22
CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 591 Archaic 21-Dec-17 20:44
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 566 Aine 21-Dec-17 21:29
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 542 drrayeye 21-Dec-17 23:53
Re: CNN interview with pilot and Pentagon Leader 555 Aine 22-Dec-17 02:24
disbelievers? 518 drrayeye 22-Dec-17 18:11
Re: disbelievers? 526 Aine 22-Dec-17 20:33
Re: disbelievers? 540 drrayeye 23-Dec-17 02:48
Re: disbelievers? 501 Aine 23-Dec-17 13:47
You don't see the difference? 509 drrayeye 23-Dec-17 18:41
Re: You don't see the difference? 530 Eddie Larry 23-Dec-17 19:32
Re: You don't see the difference? 597 PB Bytes 23-Dec-17 20:04
Re: You don't see the difference? 565 DUNE 02-Jan-18 16:59
Re: You don't see the difference? 647 Aine 02-Jan-18 18:49
US Navy Finally Opening Up About Odd Aerial Phenomena 273 Race Jackson 27-May-19 20:00
Mod Note > Duplicate Topic Merged 264 Dr. Troglodyte 27-May-19 22:02
HC USA Airing – Time Sensitive 255 Dr. Troglodyte 31-May-19 15:56
Re: HC USA Airing – Time Sensitive 254 Race Jackson 31-May-19 18:27
US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 297 Race Jackson 02-Jun-19 13:18
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 275 WhoWeird 02-Jun-19 13:25
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 278 Race Jackson 02-Jun-19 13:56
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 264 WhoWeird 02-Jun-19 14:01
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 275 Lee McGiffen 03-Jun-19 02:16
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 297 Race Jackson 03-Jun-19 18:44
Mod Note > Duplicate Topic Merged 254 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Jun-19 15:20
Mod Warning > Race Jackson 267 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Jun-19 15:22
Re: US MSM UFO Disclosure - What is the Real Agenda? 242 Archaic 25-Jun-19 14:02
Tucker Carlson May 31st 2019 958 Race Jackson 07-Jun-19 00:49
SlaiciffO SoroboruO LaiciffO 302 Dr. Troglodyte 24-Jun-19 17:58
Thoughts 256 Race Jackson 25-Jun-19 15:15
Re: Thoughts 247 Dr. Troglodyte 25-Jun-19 17:00
Re: Thoughts 238 Archaic 26-Jun-19 11:28
Re: Thoughts 360 Dr. Troglodyte 26-Jun-19 16:05
US Navy Encounters Recent 247 Race Jackson 25-Jun-19 15:41


Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.