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Kim, It seems that the villages in the ancient Turkish nations did not have walls, either. And Exekiel did mention that he was in the Afghanistan-Pakistan area. I first found out that the Cherokees were really Cilician Turks a few years ago. She wrote me that their chieftains had Turkish names. A Cherokee chieftain wrote me that his father had always called him brothers, "The Young Turks."

You've heard of the Mexican Olmecs or Olman, I am sure. Well, Ulmak or Ulman are Turkish words for Adam.

As with all the other Amerindian Tribes, the supreme god of the Cherokees was Shiva, whom they called Yehowa or Yova - derived from the North Indian words for Chieftain: Yava, Yavha, or Ja-ovaha. Their word for “Spirit” is Adanvdo. In Sanskrit, Adan-Vadhu = “The Wife of God Adam.” (Deva-Vadhu = “Wife of a God”.) Back in India, they probably worshipped a mother goddess as one of their principal deities.

Readers may want to point out that “Cilicia” was located in what are now Armenia and Turkey. However, these two nations were once part of “Greater India,” which extended to Eastern Siberia as far south as Sri Lanka, In Central Asia and the Middle East, it extended west almost to the eastern gates of Damascus, Syria. Little by little, India began to break apart, as it is doing even now. Persia separated from India in about 1,000 BC. Afghanistan pulled away from the association during the early 18th century. After World War II, Pakistan also became an exclusive non-Indian entity.

We must recondition our minds to understand that the Phoenicians were really a Hindu sea-going caste of traders and not a separate ethnicity disassociated from India. India and Phoenicia were linked as is proven by Hannibal’s use of Indian elephants and mahouts (elephant masters) in his failed conquest of Rome. Even the real name of the North African Phoenician nation of Carthaginia or Carthage, Kartuk, derives from that of a Hindu god of war, Kartikeya.

What was the meaning of the word “Cilicia?” The Dravidian derived languages tell us exactly: Kilakku = “Hindu Sailor.” The Cheras and Keras of Southern India and Kerala were famous mariners who sailed to every part of the globe. The Cilicians and Tsalagis possibly derived their names from those two peoples, for a name of Kerala was Keraka; A Kerakan was known as Keraki. The compound word Chera-ko means “Chera-King” or “Chera-Royalty.” A title of the Chera royal dynasty was Sekhara or Sekhari. Again, we have an ancient name of the Cherokees.

It’s possible that the Cherokees and the mysterious Melungeons of Tennessee went to America together.
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he Greek historian Herodotus mentions the Melungeons by name and comments on their disappearance from Armenia and Turkey, during the Greco-Persian War of 490-497 BC. They lived near a river Tenasi.
North of the country of the Royal Scythians are the "Melanchaeni (Black Robes)", a people of quite a different race from the Scythians...the Melanchaeni...instead of defending themselves, when the Scythes and Persians overran their lands...fled away...to the deserts lying towards the North.

After they disappeared from Armenia and Turkey, no one ever heard of them again in Eastern Europe – but we do find them again in what is now Southeastern United States, living in a region and alongside a river that the Cherokees called Tanasi (Tennessee, as the English-speaking settlers pronounced the word), calling themselves Melungeons. It appears certain that they fled to Cilicia, boarding Phoenician boats for America. In America, the Melungeons migrated to Tanasi, giving the region some of the same place names as a reminder of their ancient homeland back in Armenia and Turkey.

The Phoenician Cilicians (our Cherokees) who took them there surely stayed as well. Remember: Herodotus said that they were not in the habit of returning from their long voyages, but remained in the new countries they settled, naming them “Cilicia” also

The Phoenicians and Melungeons knew exactly where they were going in order to escape from the Greeks and Persians forever. Long before the birth of Christ, the Phoenicians left their millenniums-old homeland in the Khyber Mountains of Northern India to exploit the whole world commercially, They claimed to have a secret land on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean. They christened it Kheeberia (Khyber Land). The Khybers or Kheeveris were none other than our biblical Heber a.k.a. Hebrews.

The Indians of Mexico told the Spanish conquerors that all of North America was named Quivira (Kheevira). There were probably Cherokees already living in Quivira when the Cherokee and Melungeon refugees from the Greco-Persian wars arrived here.

Quivira…is The Land of New Spain. ( El Orígen de los Indios; by the Spanish priest, Gregorio García; written in 1607; p. 81.)

Although Western historians give little mention of the Phoenicians’ links with India, causing us to think that they just “combusted” somewhere in the Middle East, the Phoenicians preserved their memories of and links with India until the time the Romans destroyed Carthaginia in 146 BC.
After the Romans destroyed Carthage, the Western Phoenicians (non-Hindus) never again crossed the Atlantis to America. However, the survivors and the East India Phoenicians (Asvin Brothers) continued sailing to America via the Pacific, from what are now the Indian coastal states of Mysore (Misuri), Karnataka (ancient Kannada), and Kerala. Ships also sailed to America from what is now Sri Lanka.

At the time of Christ, one of the greatest concentrations of Jews beyond Rome, Greece, and Israel had been living in India. After arriving in Quivira, some Cherokees migrated to present day Missouri, joining a prior tribe that had been there for centuries. I am assuming that these were the Hindu Misuris, for they were among the predecessors of all the other tribes that went to live in that region.

If what I have mentioned thus far about the Cherokees is insufficient evidence that they descended from Phoenicians, perhaps some of their other tribal names will help skeptics decide: Cawtaba (Khatti-Ava); Ketuva (Ket-Ava) = Phoenician People. Their worldwide place and ethnic names beginning and ending in such syllables as Khet, Shet, Ketu, Shetu, Kad, Khat, Khit, Khitu, Get, Gades, Gad, Goth, etc., tell us exactly who traded with and civilized (or at least tried to) every nation on earth.

This word KHAT identified the ruling gentry of the Toltecs and Nahuas: MEXIKATL. The Phoenician word for commoner was KA. The same was true of the Toltecs and Nahuas: KA. MESHIKA (Commoners). I stated in The Mysteries that the word NAVA, which the Toltec or Nahua-speaking peoples could pronounce only as NAHUA (NAWAH) meant “ship; sailor, etc.” Another Sanskrit word, NAVAK (NAHUAC) implies a ship on the water or ocean. Another name of the Mexican Meshika was ANAHUAC. Even in the Aztec’s own language, it meant “Between Two Waters (Oceans). It is indeed true that Mexico is sandwiched between two oceans.

The Cherokees have another tribal name, Ani-yunviya, meaning “Principal People.” Their Sanskrit or Indic name was Anu (God Shiva; one of the five Krishtaya tribes) plus Yoni (womb; uterus; vulva; vagina; family; race; origin) + Bija (semen; seed; primary cause or principal; source; origin): Anu-yonbija. Even in Ancient India, they wanted everyone to know that they were “The Principal People.”

Still another Cherokee tribal name, Anniyaya, tells us that they descend from Anu, a son of Yaya(ti). Yaya or Yayati is a Hindu name for Japhet, a son of Noah. Japhet also became Jupiter and our Jehovah. Anikituvagi = “Belonging to the Phoenicians.” Tsalagihi-Ayili = “Belonging to the Family of Cilicia.” The Cherokees don’t need to guess about their origins. However, the tales about their origins vary from band to band. I feel that if they combined similar elements in each of their origin legends, they would get an entirely culturally satisfying and valid account of their remotest history. Although I have found many Tennessee and Missouri Cherokee place names derived from Turkic and Indic sources, much more work still needs to be done.

Gene

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