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stated:
"As Jesus said in the book of Mark as a parable........The "bottles" being a figurative statement referrering to the "body" and the "wine" being a figurative statement referring to the "spirit"."

response:
So it’s that simple?
What about the patch?

Kim, the whole book of Mark is a parable, not just what Jesus said, but also what he did.

Nowhere in the context of the verses that you quote does it mention a resurrection of a new body.
Again you are using subjective ideas, according to your literalist doctrine, to interpret ancient texts.
Is it really so hard to believe that the NT is an evolved philosophy that embellished 'the annointing' (Christ consciousness)?

Wine can mean ‘new spirit’, but ask yourself:
Self, what does ‘new spirit’ mean or what is the effect of wine upon the soul/mind as understood by the ancients?

What really are the miracles/parables of Jesus, ‘water to wine’, ‘calming the sea/guiding the ship’, ‘healing the blind’, raising the dead’, wine/wineskin, etc….?
They are invented stories (c.a. 90 AD) that were part of an evolving tradition that Philo articulated, The Literalists terminated and we interpret.
It is a beautiful, meaningful tradition full of spiritual insight.

There really are too many parallels to list on this board, but just briefly consider how the author of Hebrews (not to mention Paul and the Gospel authors) borrowed ideas from Philo, and the tradition, to accentuate the nature of Christ.

Answer this:
How do you explain these following parallels that predate Christianity?

HEBREWS:
"For the LOGOS OF GOD is living and powerful, and SHARPER than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the DIVISION of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a DISCERNER OF THOUGHTS and intents of the heart. And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account. Seeing then that we have a great HIGH PRIEST who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession..........For every high priest taken from among men is appointed for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins........Because of this he is required as for the people, so also for himself, to offer sacrifices for sins. And no man takes this honor to himself, but he who is called by God, just as Aaron was. So also Christ did not glorify Himself to become High Priest, but it was He who said to Him: "You are My Son, TODAY I HAVE BEGOTTEN YOU As He also says in another place: "You are a priest forever According to the order of MELCHIZEDEK"........And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him, called by God as High Priest "according to the order of Melchizedek," of whom we have much to say, and hard to explain, since you have become dull of hearing……This hope we have as an anchor of the soul, both sure and steadfast, and which enters the Presence behind the veil, where the forerunner has entered for us, even Jesus, having become High Priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek. For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him, to whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all, first being translated "king of righteousness," and then also king of Salem, meaning "KING OF PEACE,".

PHILO:
“Moreover, God made MELCHIZEDEK, THE KING OF PEACE, that is of Salem, for that is the interpretation of this name, "his own high Priest,"without having previously mentioned any particular action of his, but merely because he had made him a king, and a lover of peace, and especially worthy of his priesthood. For he is called a just king……..since it gives recommendations of such a character, that if guided by them, life, like a vessel, will enjoy a fair voyage through life, being directed in its course by a good governor and pilot; and this good pilot is right reason……….MELCHIZEDEK SHALL BRING FORWARD WINE INSTEAD OF WATER, AND SHALL GIVE YOUR SOULS TO DRINK, and shall cheer them with unmixed wine, in order that they may be wholly occupied with a divine intoxication, more sober than sobriety itself. FOR REASON IS A PRIEST, having, as its inheritance the true God, and entertaining lofty and sublime and magnificent ideas about him, "for he is the priest of the most high God.""

AND

“For there are, as it seems, two temples belonging to God; one being this world, in which THE HIGH PRIEST IS THE DIVINE LOGOS, HIS OWN FIRSTBORN SON. The other is the rational soul, the priest of which is the real true man, the copy of whom, perceptible to the senses, is he who performs his paternal vows and sacrifices, to whom it is enjoined to put on the aforesaid tunic, the representation of the universal heaven, in order that the world may join with the man in offering sacrifice, and that the man may likewise co-operate with the universe.”

AND

Thus God, having SHARPENED HIS OWN LOGOS, the divider of all things, DIVIDES the essence of the universe which is destitute of form……..Therefore, the two natures are indivisible; the nature, I mean, of the reasoning power in us, and of the DIVINE LOGOS above us; but though they are indivisible themselves, they divide an innumerable multitude of other things. For it is the DIVINE LOGOS which DIVIDED and distributed every thing in nature; and it is our own mind which divides every thing and every body which it comprehends, by the exertion of its intellect in an infinite manner, into an infinite number of parts, and which, in fact, never ceased from dividing.”

Etc……

Peace,

wireloop

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