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When the Old Testament was first written, Elohim/Yahweh was both good and evil. Satan didnt exist (and it was the Christians at a later point that pointed the snake to be another a form of Satan).......the concept of duality...both God and Mastema (evil) didnt come forth until Cyrus the Great of Persia freed the Israelites from Babylonian rule in 538 B.C. (I believe that is the correct date) and brought forth the first TRUE monotheistic dualistic religion to the world, called Zoroastrianism...influencing the Israelites big time.
There are huge pieces of evidence of this found especially in both the Book of Exodus and Deuteronomy, where God controlled individuals to be evil, so he could have a reason to harm them. In Exodus "he made Pharoah stubborn" and so on.
Originally Satan (Mastema) was called "ha-satan" and was a loyal servant, a spy to God and he would test the faith of individuals to see how much they believed and worshipped God.
So to say that the snake was Satan (when he is only mentioned 4 times in the Old Testament) would not be a correct thing to do. Please don't take this as an insult or as an attack. It is just something to think about.
But I would have to agree that the original sin would have to be both Adam and Eve eating from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.
Petros
www.newmessiah.net

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