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Hi Sphinx,

Sphinx wrote: "You're not suggesting that Jesus was the fullfillment of of what the wise had been saying for ages are you ? :-)"

Actually, yes I am. Believe me, I've been researching this for many years and meditating on these things daily. I love studying ancient history as well as the Bible, and I no longer think that the two are in conflct. When I realized one day that the Bible I had been studying for years was not the first, my eyes were opened.

Yes, you are right, the ancient Egyptian religion does appear to be a mixture of things. But this doesn't desuade me at all. As I stated in another post, much the of the translations of the Pyramid Texts and the Book of the Dead were recopied later. The later artists of the Papyrus of Ani were sloppy, they didn't understand what they were copying, and they left many things out because either they ran out of room or they didn't see the the significance and in some cases they added things. In others words, much of what was rewritten has been "distorted or even perverted" from it's original meaning.

Also, we must understand the "wicked nature of mankind". I am proposing that the ancient Eyptians were the ancestors of the Hebrews, but I am not prosing they were perfect. The Bible has many accounts of God's people going off after "Baal" worship and the worship of idols and other strange rituals. But the first Eyptians were much different than the later Egyptians. In fact, I believe they were a different "family of people" altogether.

As to what you wrote about the Mountain of the Moon: Very, very, interesting. I don't have a problem with this at all. Many stories have come out of Africa, such as the "Lion King".

As for Osiris (also represented as Orion).... I believe him to be another "type" of Jesus. The ancient Egyptians believed in the concept of the resurrection of the body and "eternal life" and that after the resurrection, one would receive a new or glorified body. Osiris suffered a cruel death and horrible mutulation inflicted by the"powers of evil", died, then was resurrected as a saviourof the world. This story continued throughout all of the dynasties, virtually, unaltered. I find this to beinteresting.

Here's an example of one the textsfrom the Book of the Dead regarding Osiris :

"Hail to thee, Osiris, lord of eternity, king of the gods, thou who hast many names, thou disposer of created things, thou who has hidden forms in the temples, thou sacred one, thou KA who dwellest in Tattu.....(further down we read:) to thee are obedient the stars in the heights, and thou openest the mighty gates. Thou art the lord of whom hymns of praise are sung in the southern heaven, and unto thee are adorations paid in the northern heaven........When those who are among the holy ones see thee they tremble at thee, and the whole world givest praise to thee when it meeteth thy majesty.......(later on) Thou hast made this earth by thy hand, and the waters thereof, and the wind thereof, the herb thereof, and all the four-footed beasts thereof.....the world is gratified when thou ascendest thy father's throne like Ra."

In the Bible, we have Abraham who traveled to Egypt, Moses who was raised in Egypt, Joseph is carried to Egypt and ends up living there, then in the New Testament, the angel tells Joseph to take Mary and Jesus to Egypt to flee Herod's murderous rampage. Why Egypt? There were many other places to flee to. My educated guess, is that they all visited the city of "On" or Heliopolis. They were drawn there. The Bible is silent on what happened to Jesus while in Egypt, but the Gnostics texts aren't. They tell of Jesus when he was but a small child entering into the gates of a particular city in Egypt. There the "pillars and idols" literally fell down and broke apart before him when he entered after they announced his presence.

The "Word of Osiris" spread all over the world back then, just as the "Word of God" of the Holy Bible has spread to the whole world today. It's an amazing parallel.

There's much more, but I don't want this post to get too lengthy.

Sincerely,
Kimberly

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Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 792 Kees 11-Mar-04 17:14
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 219 newrisingsun 11-Mar-04 19:08
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 224 Kees 13-Mar-04 15:00
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 268 Sphinx 11-Mar-04 20:29
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 224 David L 11-Mar-04 21:39
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 175 Kboldt 11-Mar-04 21:45
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 196 David L 12-Mar-04 18:29
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 199 Milo 12-Mar-04 19:00
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 211 David L 13-Mar-04 15:55
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 256 Sphinx 11-Mar-04 23:59
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 191 Milo 12-Mar-04 01:08
Word is Egyptian 233 Lee McGiffen 12-Mar-04 13:31
Linguistics, diffusion question 176 ananda 12-Mar-04 16:44
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 197 Milo 12-Mar-04 18:06
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 213 ArmchairObserver 12-Mar-04 18:12
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 211 Milo 12-Mar-04 19:02
Erm, thats a circle 209 Kees 13-Mar-04 13:05
Re: Erm, thats a circle 157 newrisingsun 13-Mar-04 14:09
Re: Erm, thats a circle 217 Milo 15-Mar-04 12:44
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 175 ArmchairObserver 14-Mar-04 06:13
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 187 Milo 15-Mar-04 12:44
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 182 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 13:24
You're post is goroundless ad hominem NRS 190 Milo 15-Mar-04 13:48
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 160 Milo 15-Mar-04 13:52
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 209 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 15:35
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 194 Milo 15-Mar-04 17:45
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 228 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 20:13
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 183 Milo 15-Mar-04 20:32
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 198 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 20:32
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 166 Milo 15-Mar-04 20:36
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 201 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 20:50
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 165 Milo 15-Mar-04 20:55
BTW... 188 Milo 15-Mar-04 22:58
Re: BTW... 231 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 23:26
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 201 Milo 15-Mar-04 17:54
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 188 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 13:52
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 214 Mark Staab 15-Mar-04 18:38
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 197 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 18:45
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 219 Dominick Ohrbeck 12-Mar-04 18:19
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 168 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 18:12
Re: Word is Egyptian 216 Milo 12-Mar-04 18:04
Re: Word is Egyptian 222 Cesar 12-Mar-04 20:32
Re: Word is Egyptian 204 Kboldt 12-Mar-04 20:30
Re: Word is Egyptian 203 Cesar 12-Mar-04 20:58
Re: Word is Egyptian 163 Kboldt 12-Mar-04 21:14
Re: Word is Egyptian 213 Milo 12-Mar-04 21:37
Re: Word is Egyptian 198 Kboldt 12-Mar-04 22:40
Re: Word is Egyptian 169 Milo 12-Mar-04 23:00
Re: Word is Dalamatian? 181 Dominick Ohrbeck 13-Mar-04 00:05
Re: Word is Dalamatian? 212 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 16:08
Re: Word is Dalamatian? 224 Dominick Ohrbeck 15-Mar-04 18:58
Re: Word is Egyptian 209 Milo 13-Mar-04 00:28
Re: Word is Egyptian 219 Sphinx 13-Mar-04 00:01
Re: Word is Egyptian 211 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 14:56
Re: Word is Egyptian 220 Nebankh 13-Mar-04 00:12
Re: Word is Egyptian 225 Milo 13-Mar-04 00:43
Re: Word is Egyptian 225 Nebankh 13-Mar-04 00:47
Re: Word is Egyptian 209 Milo 13-Mar-04 01:31
The Pendulum swings ... 201 Thirdwave 13-Mar-04 11:18
Re: The Pendulum swings ... 213 Nebankh 13-Mar-04 11:38
Re: The Pendulum swings ... 227 Thirdwave 14-Mar-04 00:54
Re: The Pendulum swings ... 208 Milo 15-Mar-04 12:48
Greatest twist ever 217 Kees 13-Mar-04 14:37
Re: Greatest twist ever 209 Milo 15-Mar-04 12:56
Re: Greatest twist ever 232 Kees 16-Mar-04 20:25
Re: Greatest twist ever 228 Milo 16-Mar-04 21:06
Re: Word is Egyptian 256 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 17:55
Re: Word is Egyptian 208 Nebankh 16-Mar-04 11:13
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 229 Kees 11-Mar-04 21:43
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 250 Sphinx 12-Mar-04 00:11
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 189 Milo 12-Mar-04 00:57
Please help me out 220 Kees 13-Mar-04 15:35
Re: Please help me out 171 Milo 15-Mar-04 13:04
Re: Please help me out 241 Kees 16-Mar-04 20:41
Re: Please help me out 201 Kboldt 16-Mar-04 21:13
Re: I need to add.... 208 Kboldt 16-Mar-04 21:46
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 256 Kboldt 11-Mar-04 21:17
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 220 Kees 11-Mar-04 21:44
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 211 Hoppy 11-Mar-04 21:50
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 210 Kboldt 11-Mar-04 22:44
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 174 Cesar 12-Mar-04 20:35
1Enoch; OT; UB; Invisible Elite 194 Dominick Ohrbeck 16-Mar-04 05:45
Re: 1Enoch; OT; UB; Invisible Elite 189 Kboldt 16-Mar-04 13:39
Re: 1Enoch; OT; UB; Invisible Elite 220 Dominick Ohrbeck 17-Mar-04 03:14
Re: 1Enoch; OT; UB; Invisible Elite 213 Kboldt 17-Mar-04 15:31
Oops, let' try those Sethite links again. 168 Kboldt 17-Mar-04 15:36
One more time.... 170 Kboldt 17-Mar-04 15:40
Re: One more time.... 173 Dominick Ohrbeck 17-Mar-04 20:24
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Re: One more time.... 256 Dominick Ohrbeck 25-Mar-04 19:48
Urantia/Urartia/Ur/Urani/Uranos 266 Kboldt 25-Mar-04 20:31
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