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Hi Sphinx,

Sphinx wrote: "You're not suggesting that Jesus was the fullfillment of of what the wise had been saying for ages are you ? :-)"

Actually, yes I am. Believe me, I've been researching this for many years and meditating on these things daily. I love studying ancient history as well as the Bible, and I no longer think that the two are in conflct. When I realized one day that the Bible I had been studying for years was not the first, my eyes were opened.

Yes, you are right, the ancient Egyptian religion does appear to be a mixture of things. But this doesn't desuade me at all. As I stated in another post, much the of the translations of the Pyramid Texts and the Book of the Dead were recopied later. The later artists of the Papyrus of Ani were sloppy, they didn't understand what they were copying, and they left many things out because either they ran out of room or they didn't see the the significance and in some cases they added things. In others words, much of what was rewritten has been "distorted or even perverted" from it's original meaning.

Also, we must understand the "wicked nature of mankind". I am proposing that the ancient Eyptians were the ancestors of the Hebrews, but I am not prosing they were perfect. The Bible has many accounts of God's people going off after "Baal" worship and the worship of idols and other strange rituals. But the first Eyptians were much different than the later Egyptians. In fact, I believe they were a different "family of people" altogether.

As to what you wrote about the Mountain of the Moon: Very, very, interesting. I don't have a problem with this at all. Many stories have come out of Africa, such as the "Lion King".

As for Osiris (also represented as Orion).... I believe him to be another "type" of Jesus. The ancient Egyptians believed in the concept of the resurrection of the body and "eternal life" and that after the resurrection, one would receive a new or glorified body. Osiris suffered a cruel death and horrible mutulation inflicted by the"powers of evil", died, then was resurrected as a saviourof the world. This story continued throughout all of the dynasties, virtually, unaltered. I find this to beinteresting.

Here's an example of one the textsfrom the Book of the Dead regarding Osiris :

"Hail to thee, Osiris, lord of eternity, king of the gods, thou who hast many names, thou disposer of created things, thou who has hidden forms in the temples, thou sacred one, thou KA who dwellest in Tattu.....(further down we read:) to thee are obedient the stars in the heights, and thou openest the mighty gates. Thou art the lord of whom hymns of praise are sung in the southern heaven, and unto thee are adorations paid in the northern heaven........When those who are among the holy ones see thee they tremble at thee, and the whole world givest praise to thee when it meeteth thy majesty.......(later on) Thou hast made this earth by thy hand, and the waters thereof, and the wind thereof, the herb thereof, and all the four-footed beasts thereof.....the world is gratified when thou ascendest thy father's throne like Ra."

In the Bible, we have Abraham who traveled to Egypt, Moses who was raised in Egypt, Joseph is carried to Egypt and ends up living there, then in the New Testament, the angel tells Joseph to take Mary and Jesus to Egypt to flee Herod's murderous rampage. Why Egypt? There were many other places to flee to. My educated guess, is that they all visited the city of "On" or Heliopolis. They were drawn there. The Bible is silent on what happened to Jesus while in Egypt, but the Gnostics texts aren't. They tell of Jesus when he was but a small child entering into the gates of a particular city in Egypt. There the "pillars and idols" literally fell down and broke apart before him when he entered after they announced his presence.

The "Word of Osiris" spread all over the world back then, just as the "Word of God" of the Holy Bible has spread to the whole world today. It's an amazing parallel.

There's much more, but I don't want this post to get too lengthy.

Sincerely,
Kimberly

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Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 817 Kees 11-Mar-04 17:14
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 229 newrisingsun 11-Mar-04 19:08
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 231 Kees 13-Mar-04 15:00
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 280 Sphinx 11-Mar-04 20:29
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 232 David L 11-Mar-04 21:39
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 184 Kboldt 11-Mar-04 21:45
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 204 David L 12-Mar-04 18:29
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 207 Milo 12-Mar-04 19:00
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 221 David L 13-Mar-04 15:55
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 269 Sphinx 11-Mar-04 23:59
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 199 Milo 12-Mar-04 01:08
Word is Egyptian 241 Lee McGiffen 12-Mar-04 13:31
Linguistics, diffusion question 184 ananda 12-Mar-04 16:44
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 205 Milo 12-Mar-04 18:06
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 221 ArmchairObserver 12-Mar-04 18:12
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 220 Milo 12-Mar-04 19:02
Erm, thats a circle 216 Kees 13-Mar-04 13:05
Re: Erm, thats a circle 165 newrisingsun 13-Mar-04 14:09
Re: Erm, thats a circle 226 Milo 15-Mar-04 12:44
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 183 ArmchairObserver 14-Mar-04 06:13
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 195 Milo 15-Mar-04 12:44
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 191 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 13:24
You're post is goroundless ad hominem NRS 198 Milo 15-Mar-04 13:48
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 167 Milo 15-Mar-04 13:52
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 217 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 15:35
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 201 Milo 15-Mar-04 17:45
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 237 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 20:13
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 190 Milo 15-Mar-04 20:32
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 206 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 20:32
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 173 Milo 15-Mar-04 20:36
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 210 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 20:50
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 173 Milo 15-Mar-04 20:55
BTW... 196 Milo 15-Mar-04 22:58
Re: BTW... 239 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 23:26
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 209 Milo 15-Mar-04 17:54
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 195 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 13:52
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 222 Mark Staab 15-Mar-04 18:38
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 205 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 18:45
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 228 Dominick Ohrbeck 12-Mar-04 18:19
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 175 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 18:12
Re: Word is Egyptian 223 Milo 12-Mar-04 18:04
Re: Word is Egyptian 232 Cesar 12-Mar-04 20:32
Re: Word is Egyptian 211 Kboldt 12-Mar-04 20:30
Re: Word is Egyptian 210 Cesar 12-Mar-04 20:58
Re: Word is Egyptian 174 Kboldt 12-Mar-04 21:14
Re: Word is Egyptian 221 Milo 12-Mar-04 21:37
Re: Word is Egyptian 209 Kboldt 12-Mar-04 22:40
Re: Word is Egyptian 176 Milo 12-Mar-04 23:00
Re: Word is Dalamatian? 189 Dominick Ohrbeck 13-Mar-04 00:05
Re: Word is Dalamatian? 220 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 16:08
Re: Word is Dalamatian? 232 Dominick Ohrbeck 15-Mar-04 18:58
Re: Word is Egyptian 218 Milo 13-Mar-04 00:28
Re: Word is Egyptian 231 Sphinx 13-Mar-04 00:01
Re: Word is Egyptian 219 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 14:56
Re: Word is Egyptian 228 Nebankh 13-Mar-04 00:12
Re: Word is Egyptian 234 Milo 13-Mar-04 00:43
Re: Word is Egyptian 233 Nebankh 13-Mar-04 00:47
Re: Word is Egyptian 217 Milo 13-Mar-04 01:31
The Pendulum swings ... 210 Thirdwave 13-Mar-04 11:18
Re: The Pendulum swings ... 220 Nebankh 13-Mar-04 11:38
Re: The Pendulum swings ... 235 Thirdwave 14-Mar-04 00:54
Re: The Pendulum swings ... 218 Milo 15-Mar-04 12:48
Greatest twist ever 227 Kees 13-Mar-04 14:37
Re: Greatest twist ever 217 Milo 15-Mar-04 12:56
Re: Greatest twist ever 241 Kees 16-Mar-04 20:25
Re: Greatest twist ever 236 Milo 16-Mar-04 21:06
Re: Word is Egyptian 265 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 17:55
Re: Word is Egyptian 215 Nebankh 16-Mar-04 11:13
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 239 Kees 11-Mar-04 21:43
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 261 Sphinx 12-Mar-04 00:11
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 197 Milo 12-Mar-04 00:57
Please help me out 227 Kees 13-Mar-04 15:35
Re: Please help me out 180 Milo 15-Mar-04 13:04
Re: Please help me out 249 Kees 16-Mar-04 20:41
Re: Please help me out 208 Kboldt 16-Mar-04 21:13
Re: I need to add.... 216 Kboldt 16-Mar-04 21:46
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 266 Kboldt 11-Mar-04 21:17
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 227 Kees 11-Mar-04 21:44
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 220 Hoppy 11-Mar-04 21:50
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 217 Kboldt 11-Mar-04 22:44
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 182 Cesar 12-Mar-04 20:35
1Enoch; OT; UB; Invisible Elite 201 Dominick Ohrbeck 16-Mar-04 05:45
Re: 1Enoch; OT; UB; Invisible Elite 197 Kboldt 16-Mar-04 13:39
Re: 1Enoch; OT; UB; Invisible Elite 227 Dominick Ohrbeck 17-Mar-04 03:14
Re: 1Enoch; OT; UB; Invisible Elite 220 Kboldt 17-Mar-04 15:31
Oops, let' try those Sethite links again. 175 Kboldt 17-Mar-04 15:36
One more time.... 178 Kboldt 17-Mar-04 15:40
Re: One more time.... 181 Dominick Ohrbeck 17-Mar-04 20:24
Re: One more time.... 226 Kboldt 17-Mar-04 21:03
Re: One more time.... 266 Dominick Ohrbeck 25-Mar-04 19:48
Urantia/Urartia/Ur/Urani/Uranos 280 Kboldt 25-Mar-04 20:31
Re: Van People connection 225 Kboldt 25-Mar-04 21:06
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