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Hi Stephanie,

I understand where you are coming from. Yes, it is a matter of belief. The evidence is there that there was preworld Jesus, but one has to believe the evidence. You must be able to "see" with an open mind and heart.

In The New Testament Jesus asks his disciples....
John 3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you [of] heavenly things?

And the Apostle Paul states in the NT
1Corinthians 2:14 "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned."

Many mysteries of the Bible, ancient Egypt, elsewhere also have to be "spiritually discerned", otherwise there's no way for us to understand the messages.

For example:

In E.A . Wallis Budge's "The Egyptian Book of the Dead", (which I have in front of me right now) Budge gives us an explanation that when the Papyrus of Ani was recopied from the much older texts, the later translaters did not understand what they were copying. Much of what was copied was sloppy. Much was left out, and many things were added that were different from the original texts. But enough information made it through correctly.

When Budge and others were finally able to get a satisfactory translation of the words of the Book of Dead, they admitted that much of it was metaphorical. In other words, there were many symbols that stood for something that only someone who lived during those ancient times would understand. How would a translator know what to take literally, and what to understand metaphorically? Budge understood that what he was reading compared remarkably to the texts of the Bible. So he began to read his Bible again to get an understanding.

Much of the Bible is written in metaphor or "figure of speech". If one reads and studies the whole Bible, one begins to understand what is symbolic and what was meant to be takenliterally.

Now, if we read the Book of the Dead (which I believe to be part of the earliest form of the Holy Bible) with these things in mind, you can begin to understand some of the "strange" or "weird" symbols or rituals. If one does not understand the symbols, then I can certainly understand why modern scholars think that the ancient Eygptians were just a "group of pagans". But were they?

So I believe if one understands the Holy Bible, then one can have a proper interpretation of the ancient Pyramid Texts and the Book of the Dead.

Also, one has to believe that the Pyramids Texts, and the Book of the Dead are also an actual historical account as one would the Bible.

But, again, if one doesn't believe these things, then I could show all the proof in the world, and it wouldn't make any difference.


Sincerely,
Kimberly

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Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 817 Kees 11-Mar-04 17:14
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 230 newrisingsun 11-Mar-04 19:08
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 232 Kees 13-Mar-04 15:00
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 281 Sphinx 11-Mar-04 20:29
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 233 David L 11-Mar-04 21:39
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 184 Kboldt 11-Mar-04 21:45
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 204 David L 12-Mar-04 18:29
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 207 Milo 12-Mar-04 19:00
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 222 David L 13-Mar-04 15:55
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 269 Sphinx 11-Mar-04 23:59
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 200 Milo 12-Mar-04 01:08
Word is Egyptian 242 Lee McGiffen 12-Mar-04 13:31
Linguistics, diffusion question 184 ananda 12-Mar-04 16:44
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 205 Milo 12-Mar-04 18:06
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 222 ArmchairObserver 12-Mar-04 18:12
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 221 Milo 12-Mar-04 19:02
Erm, thats a circle 216 Kees 13-Mar-04 13:05
Re: Erm, thats a circle 166 newrisingsun 13-Mar-04 14:09
Re: Erm, thats a circle 227 Milo 15-Mar-04 12:44
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 184 ArmchairObserver 14-Mar-04 06:13
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 195 Milo 15-Mar-04 12:44
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 192 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 13:24
You're post is goroundless ad hominem NRS 198 Milo 15-Mar-04 13:48
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 168 Milo 15-Mar-04 13:52
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 217 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 15:35
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 202 Milo 15-Mar-04 17:45
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 237 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 20:13
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 191 Milo 15-Mar-04 20:32
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 207 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 20:32
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 174 Milo 15-Mar-04 20:36
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 210 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 20:50
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 173 Milo 15-Mar-04 20:55
BTW... 196 Milo 15-Mar-04 22:58
Re: BTW... 239 newrisingsun 15-Mar-04 23:26
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 209 Milo 15-Mar-04 17:54
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 195 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 13:52
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 222 Mark Staab 15-Mar-04 18:38
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 205 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 18:45
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 229 Dominick Ohrbeck 12-Mar-04 18:19
Re: Linguistics, diffusion question 175 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 18:12
Re: Word is Egyptian 223 Milo 12-Mar-04 18:04
Re: Word is Egyptian 232 Cesar 12-Mar-04 20:32
Re: Word is Egyptian 211 Kboldt 12-Mar-04 20:30
Re: Word is Egyptian 210 Cesar 12-Mar-04 20:58
Re: Word is Egyptian 174 Kboldt 12-Mar-04 21:14
Re: Word is Egyptian 221 Milo 12-Mar-04 21:37
Re: Word is Egyptian 210 Kboldt 12-Mar-04 22:40
Re: Word is Egyptian 177 Milo 12-Mar-04 23:00
Re: Word is Dalamatian? 189 Dominick Ohrbeck 13-Mar-04 00:05
Re: Word is Dalamatian? 221 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 16:08
Re: Word is Dalamatian? 232 Dominick Ohrbeck 15-Mar-04 18:58
Re: Word is Egyptian 218 Milo 13-Mar-04 00:28
Re: Word is Egyptian 231 Sphinx 13-Mar-04 00:01
Re: Word is Egyptian 220 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 14:56
Re: Word is Egyptian 229 Nebankh 13-Mar-04 00:12
Re: Word is Egyptian 234 Milo 13-Mar-04 00:43
Re: Word is Egyptian 234 Nebankh 13-Mar-04 00:47
Re: Word is Egyptian 218 Milo 13-Mar-04 01:31
The Pendulum swings ... 210 Thirdwave 13-Mar-04 11:18
Re: The Pendulum swings ... 221 Nebankh 13-Mar-04 11:38
Re: The Pendulum swings ... 235 Thirdwave 14-Mar-04 00:54
Re: The Pendulum swings ... 218 Milo 15-Mar-04 12:48
Greatest twist ever 227 Kees 13-Mar-04 14:37
Re: Greatest twist ever 217 Milo 15-Mar-04 12:56
Re: Greatest twist ever 241 Kees 16-Mar-04 20:25
Re: Greatest twist ever 237 Milo 16-Mar-04 21:06
Re: Word is Egyptian 265 Kboldt 15-Mar-04 17:55
Re: Word is Egyptian 216 Nebankh 16-Mar-04 11:13
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 240 Kees 11-Mar-04 21:43
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 262 Sphinx 12-Mar-04 00:11
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 197 Milo 12-Mar-04 00:57
Please help me out 228 Kees 13-Mar-04 15:35
Re: Please help me out 180 Milo 15-Mar-04 13:04
Re: Please help me out 249 Kees 16-Mar-04 20:41
Re: Please help me out 208 Kboldt 16-Mar-04 21:13
Re: I need to add.... 216 Kboldt 16-Mar-04 21:46
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 267 Kboldt 11-Mar-04 21:17
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 227 Kees 11-Mar-04 21:44
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 221 Hoppy 11-Mar-04 21:50
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 217 Kboldt 11-Mar-04 22:44
Re: Pre world Jezus / question for Milo 183 Cesar 12-Mar-04 20:35
1Enoch; OT; UB; Invisible Elite 202 Dominick Ohrbeck 16-Mar-04 05:45
Re: 1Enoch; OT; UB; Invisible Elite 197 Kboldt 16-Mar-04 13:39
Re: 1Enoch; OT; UB; Invisible Elite 228 Dominick Ohrbeck 17-Mar-04 03:14
Re: 1Enoch; OT; UB; Invisible Elite 221 Kboldt 17-Mar-04 15:31
Oops, let' try those Sethite links again. 176 Kboldt 17-Mar-04 15:36
One more time.... 178 Kboldt 17-Mar-04 15:40
Re: One more time.... 181 Dominick Ohrbeck 17-Mar-04 20:24
Re: One more time.... 226 Kboldt 17-Mar-04 21:03
Re: One more time.... 267 Dominick Ohrbeck 25-Mar-04 19:48
Urantia/Urartia/Ur/Urani/Uranos 280 Kboldt 25-Mar-04 20:31
Re: Van People connection 225 Kboldt 25-Mar-04 21:06
Re: Van People connection 232 Dominick Ohrbeck 26-Mar-04 00:33
Re: Van People connection 423 Kboldt 26-Mar-04 13:31


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