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Dear Milo

Thank you for your really interesting reply. You really know your Bible don’t you. I am rather lacking on that and I think that I need to study it more.

You pointed out that

“many have also commented that Lucifer could also refer to the Serpent that tempted Eve because the Serpent was also said to have brought Knowledge to mankind. Anyone can be a Lucifer but generally the term is given to certain principal characters in the cosmic play that we are involved in here on Earth, particularly the dynasty of Egyptian and Babylonian Kings, out of which our present rulers are said to have descended from.”

Firstly I do not think that knowledge is something to be frightened of so why is it that the Serpent is considered evil by Christianity? Secondly:- In the West we generally elect our rulers in a democratic process; are you implying that we are being manipulated and it does not matter whether we elect a Labour or Conservative P.M. we are going to end being pushed into a world Government because of power behind the scenes?

You next point

“You asked what the "Great Work" is. IMO, the "Great Work of the Ages" is to establish a worldwide government, coupled with a worldwide humanitarian religion based on the goals of science. In my view, this is a trap designed to imprison mankind in the world of matter with no hope of salvation because it's my belief that mankind was destined to rise above matter and be guided by the spirit, a concept that science denies”

I have come across the W.W. Gov before but it has always been a bit more sinister more about power and control of the masses without any room for humanitarian goals. I suppose you have read David Ike on that subject? IMHO he is a little extreme but you can’t throw the baby out with the bath water. I have to admit though that I like the idea of mankind leaving behind our corporeal beings and being pure matter (very Star Trek :-)). It has appealed to me for some years but I also think that we need to deserve it in a karma kind of way. However, I am not so sure that you can rule out science and the esoteric because at some point they meet up. It is those who are running the science projects that may prevent that. I love physics and astronomy and I think that we are just at the tip of the iceberg with discoveries e.g. String Theory leaves a lot of room for dimensions and “thought” matter although I am no expert. I know several physicists who are deeply religious/esoteric because they are so in awe of the universe. Sorry all that was a little deep.

One last question - if the “Lucifers” want us to stay on the material level then they must know that we can be something else. By combating it they are acknowledging it. But why? Wouldn’t it be nice to be a being of thought and spirit? Why are they so scared of it? Does it come down to power again?

Warm regards

Smetters

P.S. Have you read Cracking the Apocalypse Code? Can’t remember the authors – not good with names.

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Mysticism and Knights Templars 782 Melusine 26-Feb-04 04:39
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 388 Mark Staab 26-Feb-04 05:21
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 309 Melusine 26-Feb-04 13:31
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 307 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 15:52
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 271 Melusine 26-Feb-04 18:23
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 354 Dominick Ohrbeck 15-Mar-04 18:35
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 348 Milo 26-Feb-04 15:58
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 311 Melusine 26-Feb-04 18:28
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 389 Milo 26-Feb-04 19:43
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 300 Melusine 26-Feb-04 21:06
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 309 Milo 26-Feb-04 21:13
Re: I found an interesting site for you Milo 403 Melusine 28-Feb-04 17:41
Re: I found an interesting site for you Milo 303 Milo 28-Feb-04 18:11
Re: I found an interesting site for you Milo 316 Melusine 28-Feb-04 18:21
Will do, thanks! n/t 317 Milo 28-Feb-04 18:29
Smokescreen for science and wealth? 294 ananda 02-Mar-04 15:46
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 300 Milo 02-Mar-04 19:19
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 304 Kboldt 02-Mar-04 20:24
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 293 Milo 02-Mar-04 20:58
I forgot to add... 317 Milo 02-Mar-04 21:05
Re: I forgot to add... 348 Kboldt 02-Mar-04 21:28
Superiority raises its ugly head 292 Archietype 03-Mar-04 08:12
Re: Superiority raises its ugly head 321 Milo 03-Mar-04 15:10
Re: Superiority raises its ugly head 324 Archietype 04-Mar-04 17:25
Re: Superiority raises its ugly head 318 Milo 04-Mar-04 17:48
Re: writing 393 Archietype 04-Mar-04 18:31
Re: Superiority raises its ugly head 308 Mark Staab 04-Mar-04 18:08
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 341 Alatariel 04-Mar-04 00:42
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 299 Melusine 04-Mar-04 01:10
Over the Rainbow... 393 Milo 04-Mar-04 01:26
Re: Over the Rainbow... 367 Melusine 04-Mar-04 01:39
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 340 Lee McGiffen 04-Mar-04 09:32
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 322 Melusine 04-Mar-04 09:48
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 396 Milo 04-Mar-04 01:13
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 313 Melusine 04-Mar-04 10:04
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 364 Melusine 04-Mar-04 10:07
My two cents... 337 Milo 04-Mar-04 16:16
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Re: My two cents... 348 Melusine 05-Mar-04 09:30
Re: My two cents... 249 Kboldt 05-Mar-04 13:49
Re: My two cents... 285 Melusine 04-Mar-04 21:46
Re: My two cents... 225 Milo 04-Mar-04 22:32
On further thought... 300 Milo 05-Mar-04 06:08
Re: On further thought... 348 Melusine 06-Mar-04 15:29
Re: On further thought... 298 Milo 06-Mar-04 16:55
Re: My two cents too 250 Alatariel 05-Mar-04 01:30
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Re: My two cents too 290 debraregypt 07-Mar-04 17:27
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Re: My two cents too 342 Melusine 09-Mar-04 07:41
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Re: My two cents too 339 debraregypt 10-Mar-04 01:08
Re: My two cents too 293 Milo 10-Mar-04 01:19
Re: My two cents too 337 Kboldt 10-Mar-04 15:01
Big Misunderstanding!!! 345 Milo 10-Mar-04 16:59
Re: Big Misunderstanding!!! 330 Kboldt 10-Mar-04 17:36
Some more cents... 283 Anthony Taylor 09-Mar-04 19:37
Re: Some more cents... 287 Milo 09-Mar-04 20:12
Re: Some more cents... 303 Melusine 09-Mar-04 22:22
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 238 Alatariel 05-Mar-04 01:23
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 318 Milo 05-Mar-04 02:36
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 351 smetters 05-Mar-04 13:31
The Message of the Marriage of Cana 383 Kboldt 05-Mar-04 17:08
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 331 smetters 05-Mar-04 17:30
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 281 Kboldt 08-Mar-04 13:52
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 322 smetters 08-Mar-04 17:47
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 343 Kboldt 08-Mar-04 19:49
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 364 Alatariel 08-Mar-04 22:40
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 347 Melusine 09-Mar-04 08:20
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 374 smetters 09-Mar-04 13:27
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 320 Kboldt 09-Mar-04 13:45
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 275 Mark Staab 09-Mar-04 15:02
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 368 smetters 09-Mar-04 15:31
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 304 Mark Staab 09-Mar-04 15:57
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 328 smetters 09-Mar-04 16:54
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 295 Melusine 09-Mar-04 22:37
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 273 Mark Staab 10-Mar-04 01:42
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 303 Melusine 11-Mar-04 01:52
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 299 Mark Staab 11-Mar-04 07:03
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 368 Mark Staab 09-Mar-04 16:35
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 228 Melusine 09-Mar-04 22:32
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 299 smetters 10-Mar-04 10:45
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 284 smetters 09-Mar-04 15:18
I for got this part... 368 Kboldt 05-Mar-04 18:03
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 365 Milo 05-Mar-04 18:21
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 340 Alatariel 07-Mar-04 03:16
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Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 379 Melusine 11-Mar-04 02:03
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 348 Nebankh 07-Mar-04 22:30
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 300 Melusine 11-Mar-04 04:00
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 300 ananda 04-Mar-04 13:10
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 296 smetters 04-Mar-04 13:34
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 354 ananda 02-Mar-04 23:14
Feudalism is still with us, thanks to the secret socieites 347 Milo 02-Mar-04 23:40
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 287 Melusine 03-Mar-04 03:01
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 377 ananda 03-Mar-04 03:36
The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 338 Milo 03-Mar-04 04:25
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Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 297 Alatariel 04-Mar-04 00:52
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