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Dear Melusine


Sorry I am a little new to the site so if I say anything out of turn or put my comments in the wrong part of the thread then please bear with me. Also my spelling is appalling so I apologize in advance! I am afraid that my comments won't be on a mystical nature either although I think that side of it is fascinating too.

I have read quite a few books on subjects that get interwoven with the Templars including the role of women, the Magdalene Cult, Isis cults, Prieure de Sion, Rennes Le Chateau etc etc. I am no expert though. I would like to say though that I am not taking this from a religious point of view nor I am saying that these are completely my opinions. The information out there is way too fuzzy for me to start stating things like they are given facts!

I have not come across the Daughters of God before although I am not surprised that such an organisation existed. Thank you for directing me to them. The Templars were a fascinating lot and there are lots of hints that women were more important than it seems at first glance. I need to quickly expand that with some general history if you don’t mind.

The role of women has always played an important if understated part in English history which, of course, (English history that is) is not the be all and end all. English history has been somewhat clouded by Victorian values which was a reaction to the Regency period that preceded it. The latter being a rather risqué time of Lord “mad bad and dangerous to know” Byron and his many open affairs. The reason why I brought this up is that the traditional view of women in the middle ages is one of submissive pawns in a power game which is not wholly accurate. Two examples to counter this spring to mind; Richard II of England made a court lady (sorry can’t remember her name) a Duchess in her own right and then of course there is Eleanor of Aquitaine. She went on the 2nd Crusade, ruled her sons, Richard the Lionheart and John (Magna Carta) with an iron fist and led a rebellion against her husband Henry II of England. She also came from a court in France that was positively trend setting. Her father blazed the trail for the fashion of Courtly Love and troubadours where women were put on a pedestal and worshiped from afar (how nice….). Incidentally the Grail stories began to flourish at about the same time.

Back to the Templars – If one goes with the theory (and there are many variations on this theme) that they were the physical arm of Prieure de Sion; that they believed/believe that Jesus was married to Mary and had a daughter who grew up in what is now France; she, in turn, started a line of kings (of whom some people argue Eleanor’s father was one descendent) whose blood line is still alive and well, then the role of women for those “in the know” was vital. I know that this smacks of The Da Vinci Code and the Holy Blood and the Holy Grail but if (and only if) they are right in some of their theories then a similar female order in “sister hood” to the Templars is not all that surprising. Admittedly the article in question is more about the spiritualism and symbols of the Orders and the link between the two seems to be suggested rather than definite. However, it does fit in with in with the importance of women and the role they played in these theories.

Okay that’s it for my little spiel, thanks for reading and I am now ducking for cover.

Smetters

P.S. Don’t get me started on the Freemasons!

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Mysticism and Knights Templars 727 Melusine 26-Feb-04 04:39
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 368 Mark Staab 26-Feb-04 05:21
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 290 Melusine 26-Feb-04 13:31
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 289 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 15:52
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 249 Melusine 26-Feb-04 18:23
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 331 Dominick Ohrbeck 15-Mar-04 18:35
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 326 Milo 26-Feb-04 15:58
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 292 Melusine 26-Feb-04 18:28
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 370 Milo 26-Feb-04 19:43
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 281 Melusine 26-Feb-04 21:06
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 295 Milo 26-Feb-04 21:13
Re: I found an interesting site for you Milo 386 Melusine 28-Feb-04 17:41
Re: I found an interesting site for you Milo 277 Milo 28-Feb-04 18:11
Re: I found an interesting site for you Milo 297 Melusine 28-Feb-04 18:21
Will do, thanks! n/t 302 Milo 28-Feb-04 18:29
Smokescreen for science and wealth? 273 ananda 02-Mar-04 15:46
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 277 Milo 02-Mar-04 19:19
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 288 Kboldt 02-Mar-04 20:24
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 275 Milo 02-Mar-04 20:58
I forgot to add... 298 Milo 02-Mar-04 21:05
Re: I forgot to add... 330 Kboldt 02-Mar-04 21:28
Superiority raises its ugly head 258 Archietype 03-Mar-04 08:12
Re: Superiority raises its ugly head 301 Milo 03-Mar-04 15:10
Re: Superiority raises its ugly head 309 Archietype 04-Mar-04 17:25
Re: Superiority raises its ugly head 297 Milo 04-Mar-04 17:48
Re: writing 374 Archietype 04-Mar-04 18:31
Re: Superiority raises its ugly head 290 Mark Staab 04-Mar-04 18:08
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 322 Alatariel 04-Mar-04 00:42
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 282 Melusine 04-Mar-04 01:10
Over the Rainbow... 355 Milo 04-Mar-04 01:26
Re: Over the Rainbow... 352 Melusine 04-Mar-04 01:39
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 316 Lee McGiffen 04-Mar-04 09:32
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 301 Melusine 04-Mar-04 09:48
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 370 Milo 04-Mar-04 01:13
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 297 Melusine 04-Mar-04 10:04
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 348 Melusine 04-Mar-04 10:07
My two cents... 320 Milo 04-Mar-04 16:16
Re: My two cents... 295 Kboldt 04-Mar-04 18:09
Re: My two cents... 234 Milo 04-Mar-04 19:23
Re: My two cents... 249 Kboldt 04-Mar-04 19:32
Re: My two cents... 348 Milo 04-Mar-04 20:30
Re: My two cents... 329 Melusine 05-Mar-04 09:30
Re: My two cents... 231 Kboldt 05-Mar-04 13:49
Re: My two cents... 267 Melusine 04-Mar-04 21:46
Re: My two cents... 207 Milo 04-Mar-04 22:32
On further thought... 282 Milo 05-Mar-04 06:08
Re: On further thought... 335 Melusine 06-Mar-04 15:29
Re: On further thought... 283 Milo 06-Mar-04 16:55
Re: My two cents too 233 Alatariel 05-Mar-04 01:30
Re: My two cents too 264 Milo 05-Mar-04 02:09
Re: My two cents too 267 debraregypt 07-Mar-04 17:27
Re: My two cents too 255 Milo 07-Mar-04 18:31
Re: My two cents too 327 Melusine 09-Mar-04 07:41
Re: My two cents too 316 Milo 09-Mar-04 08:07
Re: My two cents too 266 Mark Staab 09-Mar-04 08:56
Re: My two cents too 283 Melusine 09-Mar-04 22:13
Re: My two cents too 311 debraregypt 10-Mar-04 01:08
Re: My two cents too 278 Milo 10-Mar-04 01:19
Re: My two cents too 318 Kboldt 10-Mar-04 15:01
Big Misunderstanding!!! 329 Milo 10-Mar-04 16:59
Re: Big Misunderstanding!!! 310 Kboldt 10-Mar-04 17:36
Some more cents... 263 Anthony Taylor 09-Mar-04 19:37
Re: Some more cents... 269 Milo 09-Mar-04 20:12
Re: Some more cents... 286 Melusine 09-Mar-04 22:22
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 218 Alatariel 05-Mar-04 01:23
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 302 Milo 05-Mar-04 02:36
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 333 smetters 05-Mar-04 13:31
The Message of the Marriage of Cana 344 Kboldt 05-Mar-04 17:08
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 306 smetters 05-Mar-04 17:30
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 263 Kboldt 08-Mar-04 13:52
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 303 smetters 08-Mar-04 17:47
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 327 Kboldt 08-Mar-04 19:49
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 347 Alatariel 08-Mar-04 22:40
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 331 Melusine 09-Mar-04 08:20
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 354 smetters 09-Mar-04 13:27
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 298 Kboldt 09-Mar-04 13:45
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 252 Mark Staab 09-Mar-04 15:02
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 352 smetters 09-Mar-04 15:31
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 289 Mark Staab 09-Mar-04 15:57
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 310 smetters 09-Mar-04 16:54
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 271 Melusine 09-Mar-04 22:37
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 248 Mark Staab 10-Mar-04 01:42
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 286 Melusine 11-Mar-04 01:52
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 284 Mark Staab 11-Mar-04 07:03
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 331 Mark Staab 09-Mar-04 16:35
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 209 Melusine 09-Mar-04 22:32
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 282 smetters 10-Mar-04 10:45
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 267 smetters 09-Mar-04 15:18
I for got this part... 348 Kboldt 05-Mar-04 18:03
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 342 Milo 05-Mar-04 18:21
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 319 Alatariel 07-Mar-04 03:16
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Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 331 Nebankh 07-Mar-04 22:30
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Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 286 ananda 04-Mar-04 13:10
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 274 smetters 04-Mar-04 13:34
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 338 ananda 02-Mar-04 23:14
Feudalism is still with us, thanks to the secret socieites 330 Milo 02-Mar-04 23:40
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 272 Melusine 03-Mar-04 03:01
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 365 ananda 03-Mar-04 03:36
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Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 263 Melusine 04-Mar-04 19:54
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 251 Milo 04-Mar-04 20:28
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 275 smetters 03-Mar-04 20:49
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 283 Alatariel 04-Mar-04 00:52
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 318 Melusine 04-Mar-04 01:57
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 246 Alatariel 08-Mar-04 00:03
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