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Hi Ananda,

Seem we have read both a lot and it may be very confusing at times.
I wouldn't use the word "overlap" in the case you mention I prefer
"interconnectedness". From this perspective everything and everyone
is interconnected.
As for the Templars there is the real deal and there are offshoots of freemasons who use the title a bit too freely. As a real truth seeker I am interested only in the real deal not the copycat.

As David Lamont kindly provided the link of the true Rosicrucian Order,
I will just mention again the link I provided to Milo above
which to me is the real deal and speak of the female orders as well :
[www.northernway.org]

This is not the link I mentionned at the top of my thread which is a link of a personal website. :This link is a link of the Templar order.

By the way I saw you mentionning in a post that you think people don't need anymore these alchemical secrets......etc....
I can see that if you take things literally alchemy being transmutation of metals you can't figure the finality of the process.
In this case "alchemy" is an allegory for a several phases spiritual awakening.....and IMHO we need today more than ever this kind of
spirituality in the positive sense of emcompassing the goodness and love of all by being compassionate towards all our brothers and sisters and we can do that only if we begin by changing our way of thinking.
The reason these things were kept secrets is because "knowledge is power" and "power" in the hands of non prepared or unworthy is very dangerous. Power comes with a higher sense of responsability and you have to earn it. The misuse of power can be well illustrated in "black magic" in opposition of "white magic" which is used to help people and heal them not to control them. So if you really want to separate the wheat from the chaff you need a lot of discernement in your readings and it is not easy that is why I try to refrain to reach conclusions too quickly.
Just my 2 cents and good luck in your search for the truth.
When you find it you get a sense of pure joy and you know you are home.
That is all I wish for you.
Cheers,
Magdalen

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Mysticism and Knights Templars 778 Melusine 26-Feb-04 04:39
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 387 Mark Staab 26-Feb-04 05:21
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 308 Melusine 26-Feb-04 13:31
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 306 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 15:52
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 270 Melusine 26-Feb-04 18:23
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 351 Dominick Ohrbeck 15-Mar-04 18:35
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 345 Milo 26-Feb-04 15:58
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 309 Melusine 26-Feb-04 18:28
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 387 Milo 26-Feb-04 19:43
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 299 Melusine 26-Feb-04 21:06
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 309 Milo 26-Feb-04 21:13
Re: I found an interesting site for you Milo 403 Melusine 28-Feb-04 17:41
Re: I found an interesting site for you Milo 300 Milo 28-Feb-04 18:11
Re: I found an interesting site for you Milo 314 Melusine 28-Feb-04 18:21
Will do, thanks! n/t 316 Milo 28-Feb-04 18:29
Smokescreen for science and wealth? 293 ananda 02-Mar-04 15:46
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 299 Milo 02-Mar-04 19:19
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 303 Kboldt 02-Mar-04 20:24
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 292 Milo 02-Mar-04 20:58
I forgot to add... 317 Milo 02-Mar-04 21:05
Re: I forgot to add... 347 Kboldt 02-Mar-04 21:28
Superiority raises its ugly head 290 Archietype 03-Mar-04 08:12
Re: Superiority raises its ugly head 320 Milo 03-Mar-04 15:10
Re: Superiority raises its ugly head 324 Archietype 04-Mar-04 17:25
Re: Superiority raises its ugly head 316 Milo 04-Mar-04 17:48
Re: writing 392 Archietype 04-Mar-04 18:31
Re: Superiority raises its ugly head 307 Mark Staab 04-Mar-04 18:08
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 339 Alatariel 04-Mar-04 00:42
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 297 Melusine 04-Mar-04 01:10
Over the Rainbow... 392 Milo 04-Mar-04 01:26
Re: Over the Rainbow... 366 Melusine 04-Mar-04 01:39
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 340 Lee McGiffen 04-Mar-04 09:32
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 321 Melusine 04-Mar-04 09:48
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 394 Milo 04-Mar-04 01:13
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 313 Melusine 04-Mar-04 10:04
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 361 Melusine 04-Mar-04 10:07
My two cents... 337 Milo 04-Mar-04 16:16
Re: My two cents... 312 Kboldt 04-Mar-04 18:09
Re: My two cents... 249 Milo 04-Mar-04 19:23
Re: My two cents... 272 Kboldt 04-Mar-04 19:32
Re: My two cents... 366 Milo 04-Mar-04 20:30
Re: My two cents... 347 Melusine 05-Mar-04 09:30
Re: My two cents... 248 Kboldt 05-Mar-04 13:49
Re: My two cents... 283 Melusine 04-Mar-04 21:46
Re: My two cents... 224 Milo 04-Mar-04 22:32
On further thought... 299 Milo 05-Mar-04 06:08
Re: On further thought... 348 Melusine 06-Mar-04 15:29
Re: On further thought... 298 Milo 06-Mar-04 16:55
Re: My two cents too 250 Alatariel 05-Mar-04 01:30
Re: My two cents too 279 Milo 05-Mar-04 02:09
Re: My two cents too 288 debraregypt 07-Mar-04 17:27
Re: My two cents too 272 Milo 07-Mar-04 18:31
Re: My two cents too 341 Melusine 09-Mar-04 07:41
Re: My two cents too 330 Milo 09-Mar-04 08:07
Re: My two cents too 282 Mark Staab 09-Mar-04 08:56
Re: My two cents too 297 Melusine 09-Mar-04 22:13
Re: My two cents too 338 debraregypt 10-Mar-04 01:08
Re: My two cents too 293 Milo 10-Mar-04 01:19
Re: My two cents too 335 Kboldt 10-Mar-04 15:01
Big Misunderstanding!!! 343 Milo 10-Mar-04 16:59
Re: Big Misunderstanding!!! 328 Kboldt 10-Mar-04 17:36
Some more cents... 283 Anthony Taylor 09-Mar-04 19:37
Re: Some more cents... 287 Milo 09-Mar-04 20:12
Re: Some more cents... 302 Melusine 09-Mar-04 22:22
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 236 Alatariel 05-Mar-04 01:23
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 316 Milo 05-Mar-04 02:36
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 351 smetters 05-Mar-04 13:31
The Message of the Marriage of Cana 383 Kboldt 05-Mar-04 17:08
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 330 smetters 05-Mar-04 17:30
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 279 Kboldt 08-Mar-04 13:52
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 320 smetters 08-Mar-04 17:47
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 342 Kboldt 08-Mar-04 19:49
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 363 Alatariel 08-Mar-04 22:40
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 345 Melusine 09-Mar-04 08:20
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 373 smetters 09-Mar-04 13:27
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 318 Kboldt 09-Mar-04 13:45
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 274 Mark Staab 09-Mar-04 15:02
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 368 smetters 09-Mar-04 15:31
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 303 Mark Staab 09-Mar-04 15:57
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 328 smetters 09-Mar-04 16:54
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 293 Melusine 09-Mar-04 22:37
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 269 Mark Staab 10-Mar-04 01:42
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 302 Melusine 11-Mar-04 01:52
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 299 Mark Staab 11-Mar-04 07:03
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 365 Mark Staab 09-Mar-04 16:35
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 226 Melusine 09-Mar-04 22:32
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 298 smetters 10-Mar-04 10:45
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 282 smetters 09-Mar-04 15:18
I for got this part... 367 Kboldt 05-Mar-04 18:03
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 363 Milo 05-Mar-04 18:21
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 337 Alatariel 07-Mar-04 03:16
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 405 Milo 07-Mar-04 04:13
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 274 David L 07-Mar-04 05:30
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 280 Milo 07-Mar-04 05:35
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 285 David L 07-Mar-04 05:48
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 287 Milo 07-Mar-04 06:20
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 353 Melusine 11-Mar-04 02:05
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 263 Kboldt 08-Mar-04 14:53
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 348 Milo 08-Mar-04 16:16
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 370 Alatariel 07-Mar-04 15:58
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 304 David L 07-Mar-04 05:36
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 378 Melusine 11-Mar-04 02:03
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 348 Nebankh 07-Mar-04 22:30
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 298 Melusine 11-Mar-04 04:00
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 298 ananda 04-Mar-04 13:10
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 295 smetters 04-Mar-04 13:34
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 353 ananda 02-Mar-04 23:14
Feudalism is still with us, thanks to the secret socieites 347 Milo 02-Mar-04 23:40
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 286 Melusine 03-Mar-04 03:01
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 377 ananda 03-Mar-04 03:36
The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 338 Milo 03-Mar-04 04:25
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 257 Melusine 03-Mar-04 11:50
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 335 Milo 03-Mar-04 15:21
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 284 Melusine 04-Mar-04 01:46
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 334 Milo 04-Mar-04 02:03
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 351 Melusine 04-Mar-04 09:52
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 333 Milo 04-Mar-04 16:45
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 277 Melusine 04-Mar-04 19:54
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 285 Milo 04-Mar-04 20:28
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 291 smetters 03-Mar-04 20:49
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 296 Alatariel 04-Mar-04 00:52
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 338 Melusine 04-Mar-04 01:57
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 263 Alatariel 08-Mar-04 00:03
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 344 Melusine 09-Mar-04 08:00
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 345 Melusine 04-Mar-04 01:37
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 421 smetters 04-Mar-04 13:45
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 340 Melusine 04-Mar-04 16:08
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 293 smetters 04-Mar-04 18:34
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 302 ananda 04-Mar-04 18:47
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 318 Melusine 04-Mar-04 19:45
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 289 Melusine 05-Mar-04 10:07
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 358 smetters 05-Mar-04 12:46
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 283 Melusine 05-Mar-04 16:09
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Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 240 Alatariel 05-Mar-04 00:58
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 270 ArmchairObserver 05-Mar-04 09:28
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 320 Milo 04-Mar-04 17:01
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 293 smetters 04-Mar-04 19:00
Lucifer and the Great Work 287 Milo 04-Mar-04 20:16
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 232 Anne-Marie 05-Mar-04 07:01
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Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 254 ArmchairObserver 06-Mar-04 18:33
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Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 341 Anne-Marie 07-Mar-04 00:09
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The Grail Bloodline Drank Menstrual Blood 1071 Milo 07-Mar-04 22:30
Re: The Grail Bloodline Drank Menstrual Blood 285 ArmchairObserver 08-Mar-04 03:28
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Re: The Grail Bloodline Drank Menstrual Blood 365 ArmchairObserver 08-Mar-04 05:10
Re: The Grail Bloodline Drank Menstrual Blood 294 Milo 08-Mar-04 05:29
Re: The Grail Bloodline Drank Menstrual Blood 272 Alatariel 08-Mar-04 12:40
Re: The Grail Bloodline Drank Menstrual Blood 314 Milo 08-Mar-04 16:21
Re: The Grail Bloodline Drank Menstrual Blood 329 ArmchairObserver 08-Mar-04 16:32
Re: The Grail Bloodline Drank Menstrual Blood 264 Mark Staab 08-Mar-04 20:31
PPS 274 Mark Staab 08-Mar-04 20:38
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 279 smetters 08-Mar-04 18:12
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 357 ArmchairObserver 08-Mar-04 20:04
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Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 311 ArmchairObserver 09-Mar-04 19:57
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Re: Left-Handed and Red Hair 353 Kboldt 09-Mar-04 23:00
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Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 318 ArmchairObserver 10-Mar-04 07:15
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Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 294 David L 07-Mar-04 04:07
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Mod comment 247 ArmchairObserver 07-Mar-04 06:57
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Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 301 Dominick Ohrbeck 12-Mar-04 07:38
Templar Cross at Temple of Karnak, Egypt 264 fisherman 15-Mar-04 23:50
fixed link 260 Dominick Ohrbeck 12-Mar-04 18:09
Re: fixed link 296 Melusine 15-Mar-04 23:31
Re: fixed link 288 Dominick Ohrbeck 16-Mar-04 01:47
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