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ananda wrote:

> Members of the Freemasons, Skull and Bones Society, Scottish
> Rite, or whatever no longer have any reason to use the
> obfuscatory symbols, rites, and arcane language that were
> developed in the Middle Ages and made even more complex in
> the Renaissance as the Church, the monarchs, and the
> nobility became more power hungry and avaricious.

The use of secret handshakes, arcane rituals and esoteric occult symbols are still as prevelant in Freemasonry as they ever were.

> As monarchies and the aristocracy declined, along with the
> power and wealth of the Church, so did the chicanery and
> obfuscation of the secret societies: no more real need for
> alchemy, secret bloodlines, rites, or ancient
> science/geometry that informs city planning, art, and
> architecture. The scientists and heretics no longer needed
> protecting and safe-havening.

You should bear in mind that our present "democracy" is an illusion designed by the same people who brought us the feudalism of the aristocracy, which was the system of government that most of the world lived under until recent history.

This feudal system has also survived to our present day, in a literal sense, through the occult and alchemical secret societies such as the Rosicrucians and Freemasons whose top ranks have always been drawn from the aristocracy and proof of an unbroken bloodline from father to son is always demanded. The Grand Lodge of London, the White House of international Freemasonry, has always had British royalty at its head and still does!

If you're interested in the new struggle of the democracy you should endeavour to discover exactly how the feudalist Secret Societies infiltrate and manipulate the ideals of modern democracy!

> Now these societies seem to exist as good ole boys networks
> to promote the acquisition and hoarding of wealth among
> members, and even to keep a kind of corporate lock on the
> expression of ideas and belief systems... thus the trend
> towards the demonization of science and scientists and the
> promotion of Christian fundie principles and policies. This
> is just the opposite of what the societies were founded to
> protect and try to keep alive.

Freemasonry is not promoting fundamentalist Christian principles and policies, quite the opposite in fact and that's why so many Christians are fleeing from the fraternity! Many fundamentalist Christians are against the establishment of a world government and banking system.

Rob

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Mysticism and Knights Templars 768 Melusine 26-Feb-04 04:39
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 384 Mark Staab 26-Feb-04 05:21
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 305 Melusine 26-Feb-04 13:31
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 305 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 15:52
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 266 Melusine 26-Feb-04 18:23
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 347 Dominick Ohrbeck 15-Mar-04 18:35
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 342 Milo 26-Feb-04 15:58
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 306 Melusine 26-Feb-04 18:28
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 385 Milo 26-Feb-04 19:43
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 296 Melusine 26-Feb-04 21:06
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 307 Milo 26-Feb-04 21:13
Re: I found an interesting site for you Milo 400 Melusine 28-Feb-04 17:41
Re: I found an interesting site for you Milo 292 Milo 28-Feb-04 18:11
Re: I found an interesting site for you Milo 311 Melusine 28-Feb-04 18:21
Will do, thanks! n/t 313 Milo 28-Feb-04 18:29
Smokescreen for science and wealth? 291 ananda 02-Mar-04 15:46
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 294 Milo 02-Mar-04 19:19
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 302 Kboldt 02-Mar-04 20:24
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 288 Milo 02-Mar-04 20:58
I forgot to add... 314 Milo 02-Mar-04 21:05
Re: I forgot to add... 343 Kboldt 02-Mar-04 21:28
Superiority raises its ugly head 283 Archietype 03-Mar-04 08:12
Re: Superiority raises its ugly head 318 Milo 03-Mar-04 15:10
Re: Superiority raises its ugly head 323 Archietype 04-Mar-04 17:25
Re: Superiority raises its ugly head 310 Milo 04-Mar-04 17:48
Re: writing 389 Archietype 04-Mar-04 18:31
Re: Superiority raises its ugly head 305 Mark Staab 04-Mar-04 18:08
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 336 Alatariel 04-Mar-04 00:42
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 295 Melusine 04-Mar-04 01:10
Over the Rainbow... 387 Milo 04-Mar-04 01:26
Re: Over the Rainbow... 363 Melusine 04-Mar-04 01:39
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 337 Lee McGiffen 04-Mar-04 09:32
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 316 Melusine 04-Mar-04 09:48
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 389 Milo 04-Mar-04 01:13
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 310 Melusine 04-Mar-04 10:04
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 359 Melusine 04-Mar-04 10:07
My two cents... 335 Milo 04-Mar-04 16:16
Re: My two cents... 308 Kboldt 04-Mar-04 18:09
Re: My two cents... 245 Milo 04-Mar-04 19:23
Re: My two cents... 266 Kboldt 04-Mar-04 19:32
Re: My two cents... 362 Milo 04-Mar-04 20:30
Re: My two cents... 342 Melusine 05-Mar-04 09:30
Re: My two cents... 243 Kboldt 05-Mar-04 13:49
Re: My two cents... 280 Melusine 04-Mar-04 21:46
Re: My two cents... 221 Milo 04-Mar-04 22:32
On further thought... 295 Milo 05-Mar-04 06:08
Re: On further thought... 346 Melusine 06-Mar-04 15:29
Re: On further thought... 296 Milo 06-Mar-04 16:55
Re: My two cents too 247 Alatariel 05-Mar-04 01:30
Re: My two cents too 278 Milo 05-Mar-04 02:09
Re: My two cents too 283 debraregypt 07-Mar-04 17:27
Re: My two cents too 271 Milo 07-Mar-04 18:31
Re: My two cents too 339 Melusine 09-Mar-04 07:41
Re: My two cents too 328 Milo 09-Mar-04 08:07
Re: My two cents too 279 Mark Staab 09-Mar-04 08:56
Re: My two cents too 294 Melusine 09-Mar-04 22:13
Re: My two cents too 335 debraregypt 10-Mar-04 01:08
Re: My two cents too 292 Milo 10-Mar-04 01:19
Re: My two cents too 334 Kboldt 10-Mar-04 15:01
Big Misunderstanding!!! 340 Milo 10-Mar-04 16:59
Re: Big Misunderstanding!!! 324 Kboldt 10-Mar-04 17:36
Some more cents... 280 Anthony Taylor 09-Mar-04 19:37
Re: Some more cents... 285 Milo 09-Mar-04 20:12
Re: Some more cents... 300 Melusine 09-Mar-04 22:22
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 232 Alatariel 05-Mar-04 01:23
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 313 Milo 05-Mar-04 02:36
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 347 smetters 05-Mar-04 13:31
The Message of the Marriage of Cana 377 Kboldt 05-Mar-04 17:08
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 323 smetters 05-Mar-04 17:30
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 277 Kboldt 08-Mar-04 13:52
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 317 smetters 08-Mar-04 17:47
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 339 Kboldt 08-Mar-04 19:49
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 361 Alatariel 08-Mar-04 22:40
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 343 Melusine 09-Mar-04 08:20
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 370 smetters 09-Mar-04 13:27
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 314 Kboldt 09-Mar-04 13:45
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 270 Mark Staab 09-Mar-04 15:02
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 364 smetters 09-Mar-04 15:31
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 301 Mark Staab 09-Mar-04 15:57
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 325 smetters 09-Mar-04 16:54
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 287 Melusine 09-Mar-04 22:37
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 263 Mark Staab 10-Mar-04 01:42
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 299 Melusine 11-Mar-04 01:52
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 297 Mark Staab 11-Mar-04 07:03
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 362 Mark Staab 09-Mar-04 16:35
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 224 Melusine 09-Mar-04 22:32
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 296 smetters 10-Mar-04 10:45
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 280 smetters 09-Mar-04 15:18
I for got this part... 361 Kboldt 05-Mar-04 18:03
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 357 Milo 05-Mar-04 18:21
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 335 Alatariel 07-Mar-04 03:16
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 402 Milo 07-Mar-04 04:13
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 271 David L 07-Mar-04 05:30
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 278 Milo 07-Mar-04 05:35
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 284 David L 07-Mar-04 05:48
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 285 Milo 07-Mar-04 06:20
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 350 Melusine 11-Mar-04 02:05
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 262 Kboldt 08-Mar-04 14:53
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 344 Milo 08-Mar-04 16:16
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 365 Alatariel 07-Mar-04 15:58
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 301 David L 07-Mar-04 05:36
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 370 Melusine 11-Mar-04 02:03
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 345 Nebankh 07-Mar-04 22:30
Re: The Message of the Marriage of Cana 297 Melusine 11-Mar-04 04:00
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 297 ananda 04-Mar-04 13:10
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 293 smetters 04-Mar-04 13:34
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 350 ananda 02-Mar-04 23:14
Feudalism is still with us, thanks to the secret socieites 342 Milo 02-Mar-04 23:40
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 285 Melusine 03-Mar-04 03:01
Re: Smokescreen for science and wealth? 375 ananda 03-Mar-04 03:36
The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 335 Milo 03-Mar-04 04:25
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 254 Melusine 03-Mar-04 11:50
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 332 Milo 03-Mar-04 15:21
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 281 Melusine 04-Mar-04 01:46
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 329 Milo 04-Mar-04 02:03
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 349 Melusine 04-Mar-04 09:52
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 328 Milo 04-Mar-04 16:45
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 275 Melusine 04-Mar-04 19:54
Re: The Biblical struggle against the anti-Christ 280 Milo 04-Mar-04 20:28
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 290 smetters 03-Mar-04 20:49
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 295 Alatariel 04-Mar-04 00:52
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 335 Melusine 04-Mar-04 01:57
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 258 Alatariel 08-Mar-04 00:03
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Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 419 smetters 04-Mar-04 13:45
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Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 299 ananda 04-Mar-04 18:47
Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 314 Melusine 04-Mar-04 19:45
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Lucifer and the Great Work 283 Milo 04-Mar-04 20:16
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The Grail Bloodline Drank Menstrual Blood 1058 Milo 07-Mar-04 22:30
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Re: The Grail Bloodline Drank Menstrual Blood 363 ArmchairObserver 08-Mar-04 05:10
Re: The Grail Bloodline Drank Menstrual Blood 292 Milo 08-Mar-04 05:29
Re: The Grail Bloodline Drank Menstrual Blood 269 Alatariel 08-Mar-04 12:40
Re: The Grail Bloodline Drank Menstrual Blood 311 Milo 08-Mar-04 16:21
Re: The Grail Bloodline Drank Menstrual Blood 327 ArmchairObserver 08-Mar-04 16:32
Re: The Grail Bloodline Drank Menstrual Blood 261 Mark Staab 08-Mar-04 20:31
PPS 270 Mark Staab 08-Mar-04 20:38
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 277 smetters 08-Mar-04 18:12
Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 356 ArmchairObserver 08-Mar-04 20:04
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Re: Left-Handed and Red Hair 351 Kboldt 09-Mar-04 23:00
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Re: Lucifer and the Great Work 313 ArmchairObserver 10-Mar-04 07:15
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Mod comment 243 ArmchairObserver 07-Mar-04 06:57
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Re: Mysticism and Knights Templars 298 Dominick Ohrbeck 12-Mar-04 07:38
Templar Cross at Temple of Karnak, Egypt 262 fisherman 15-Mar-04 23:50
fixed link 259 Dominick Ohrbeck 12-Mar-04 18:09
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