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Of course I wasn't implying that sex and marriage were sinful.

I was saying, explicitly and directly, that sex can be seen as both a physical union between male and female... as between Jesus and MM... and as a symbol for the mystical union between divine or supernatural beings, and for the integration of the psyche, the balance between anima and animus, etc.

I was also saying that a problem with discussing the possibility that the relationship between Jesus and MM was sexual could be due to the layering of Paulian and Augustinian notions upon indoctrinated minds, insofar as gnosticism and Pelagianism were suppressed and called heretical.

IMO, who are we to say that the Gnostics did not consider the relationship of Jesus and MM to be sexual? It seems pretty clear that there was a sexual component to that kiss. But the transcendent, mystical element of "sex" would be just as important or more so. Why can't we have both? That's all.

ananda

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Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 973 ananda 23-Feb-04 02:51
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 347 Milo 23-Feb-04 04:18
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 310 ananda 23-Feb-04 04:47
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 276 Milo 23-Feb-04 05:12
Mod Comment to you two 278 Thirdwave 23-Feb-04 14:42
Re: Mod Comment to you two 284 Milo 23-Feb-04 15:00
Fallen Angels & Co. 297 Nejc 23-Feb-04 15:09
Re: Fallen Angels & Co. 299 Milo 23-Feb-04 15:18
Yes .. ups.. sorry..n/t 292 Nejc 23-Feb-04 15:27
it's me - lol 332 Thirdwave 23-Feb-04 16:19
Re: it's me - lol 327 Milo 23-Feb-04 16:21
No probs n/t 321 Thirdwave 23-Feb-04 16:30
Re: Divine Beings 316 Nebankh 23-Feb-04 16:47
Re: Divine Beings 314 Milo 23-Feb-04 17:17
Divine Agreement to Differ 319 Thirdwave 23-Feb-04 17:58
Re: Divine Agreement to Differ 332 Milo 23-Feb-04 18:22
Believers and Researchers 348 Nejc 23-Feb-04 18:48
I am not a blind believer but a researcher 333 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:01
Re: I am not a blind believer but a researcher 327 Nejc 23-Feb-04 19:15
Re: I am not a blind believer but a researcher 316 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:19
Oh. Thanks for this one :) n/t 319 Nejc 23-Feb-04 19:22
Re: I am not a blind believer but a researcher 277 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:21
On the other hand... 341 Nejc 23-Feb-04 20:21
Re: On the other hand... 315 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:39
Re: Divine Beings 348 drowningcreek 23-Feb-04 19:00
Re: Divine Beings 289 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:09
Re: Divine Beings 340 drowningcreek 23-Feb-04 19:24
Re: Divine Beings 299 David L 23-Feb-04 22:42
Is there another site for serious discussion? 328 drowningcreek 23-Feb-04 23:09
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 321 Paul Mallon 24-Feb-04 18:42
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 306 Milo 24-Feb-04 19:42
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 289 David L 25-Feb-04 01:48
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 283 Milo 25-Feb-04 02:14
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 300 David L 25-Feb-04 03:03
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 286 Milo 25-Feb-04 06:37
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 295 David L 25-Feb-04 16:30
No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 291 Milo 25-Feb-04 17:18
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 295 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 17:47
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 303 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 17:54
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 294 Milo 25-Feb-04 17:58
Re: Cana 300 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 18:30
Re: Cana - missed off a bit! 295 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 18:32
Re: Cana - missed off a bit! 299 Milo 25-Feb-04 19:05
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 268 Milo 25-Feb-04 17:57
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 316 Lee McGiffen 26-Feb-04 08:36
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 336 Nebankh 26-Feb-04 10:19
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 291 ananda 26-Feb-04 16:01
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 317 Milo 26-Feb-04 16:14
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 325 Nebankh 26-Feb-04 16:23
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 334 Milo 26-Feb-04 16:27
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 315 Nebankh 26-Feb-04 16:58
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 279 Milo 26-Feb-04 17:01
Augustinian vs. Gnostic (and even Pelagian) 304 ananda 26-Feb-04 17:30
Re: Augustinian vs. Gnostic (and even Pelagian) 307 Milo 26-Feb-04 17:43
In Addition.... 281 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 18:50
Point was missed 271 ananda 26-Feb-04 18:58
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 294 ArmchairObserver 25-Feb-04 18:45
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 269 Zosimos 25-Feb-04 18:53
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 295 ArmchairObserver 25-Feb-04 19:02
I misread the quoted passage... 280 Milo 25-Feb-04 19:28
Re: I misread the quoted passage... 333 David L 25-Feb-04 23:20
Re: I misread the quoted passage... 283 Milo 25-Feb-04 23:31
One more thing... 311 David L 25-Feb-04 23:25
Re: One more thing... 308 Milo 25-Feb-04 23:32
Also... 304 Milo 25-Feb-04 23:41
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 305 David L 25-Feb-04 23:08
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 299 Thirdwave 25-Feb-04 23:33
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 317 Milo 25-Feb-04 23:36
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 297 Kboldt 25-Feb-04 19:01
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 296 Milo 25-Feb-04 19:37
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 320 Kboldt 25-Feb-04 19:53
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 292 Milo 25-Feb-04 19:58
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 315 sunbeam 23-Feb-04 15:50
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 318 ananda 23-Feb-04 16:15
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 324 Milo 23-Feb-04 16:28
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 330 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:25
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 318 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:36
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 330 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:42
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 325 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:49
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 301 ananda 23-Feb-04 20:22
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 271 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:26
Osirus - Seprapis - Christianity 325 Jaimi 23-Feb-04 21:04
Re: Osirus - Seprapis - Christianity 338 Milo 23-Feb-04 21:27
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 325 ananda 23-Feb-04 20:23
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 322 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:32
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 327 Paul Mallon 24-Feb-04 19:43
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 323 Milo 24-Feb-04 20:19
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 316 Milo 23-Feb-04 16:35
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 288 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:35
And by the way... 322 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:36
Re: And by the way... 331 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:42
Re: And by the way... 283 Kboldt 25-Feb-04 19:14
Re: And by the way... 289 Lee McGiffen 26-Feb-04 08:28
Re: And by the way... 304 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 16:48
Sources? 305 ananda 26-Feb-04 17:24
Re: Sources? 284 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 18:29
Re: And by the way... 404 Zosimos 26-Feb-04 17:00
Re: And by the way... 302 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 17:45
Re: And by the way... 407 Zosimos 26-Feb-04 18:20
Re: And by the way... 290 ananda 26-Feb-04 18:49
Re: And by the way... 387 Zosimos 26-Feb-04 19:15
Re: And by the way... 276 ananda 26-Feb-04 21:11
Re: And by the way... 381 Zosimos 26-Feb-04 23:30
Re: And by the way... 375 Zosimos 27-Feb-04 00:14
Re: And by the way... 294 Kboldt 27-Feb-04 13:35
Re: And by the way... 360 Zosimos 27-Feb-04 16:44
Re: And by the way... 506 Kboldt 27-Feb-04 16:46
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 309 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:40
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 303 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:47
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 346 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:57
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 340 ananda 23-Feb-04 20:19
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 373 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:23
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 334 ananda 23-Feb-04 20:24
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 328 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:34
Challenge to Milo 326 ananda 23-Feb-04 21:21
Re: Challenge to Milo 347 Milo 23-Feb-04 21:38
Re: Challenge to Milo 380 ananda 23-Feb-04 21:43
Re: Challenge to Milo 318 Milo 23-Feb-04 23:31
Yes you are n/t 324 Nejc 23-Feb-04 21:56
Re: Yes you are n/t 297 Milo 23-Feb-04 23:25
Then again... 298 Nejc 24-Feb-04 08:31
Big Blue :) 316 Thirdwave 24-Feb-04 10:54
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 297 debraregypt 23-Feb-04 15:53
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 310 ananda 23-Feb-04 16:16
Archetypes of the collective unconscious 346 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:55
Re: Archetypes of the collective unconscious 336 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:04
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 331 David L 23-Feb-04 22:28
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 314 Milo 23-Feb-04 23:33
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 320 David L 24-Feb-04 01:35
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 314 Milo 24-Feb-04 01:47
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 289 Lee McGiffen 25-Feb-04 09:51
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 278 Kboldt 25-Feb-04 19:22
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 342 Lee McGiffen 26-Feb-04 08:24
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 321 Milo 26-Feb-04 15:55
Lee... What about Moses? 315 ananda 26-Feb-04 16:12
Evidence that Jesus Existed 284 Milo 26-Feb-04 16:16
Re: Lee... What about Moses? 298 David L 26-Feb-04 20:37
Deblinkering debunkers... 292 Morph 24-Feb-04 15:26
Re: Deblinkering debunkers... 303 Zosimos 24-Feb-04 18:50
Re: Deblinkering debunkers... 257 Morph 25-Feb-04 15:33
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 308 Lee McGiffen 25-Feb-04 09:58
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 296 ananda 25-Feb-04 13:10
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 290 Milo 25-Feb-04 16:33
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 284 Kboldt 25-Feb-04 19:27
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 265 Zosimos 25-Feb-04 21:16
Re: Christ and Dionysis - good article 297 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 17:58
6th of January not mentioned in the Bible 292 Milo 25-Feb-04 18:05
Re: 6th of January not mentioned in the Bible 284 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 18:14
Re: 6th of January not mentioned in the Bible 286 Milo 25-Feb-04 18:34
Hmmm... 324 Morph 26-Feb-04 15:16
Re: Hmmm... 305 Morph 26-Feb-04 15:20
Re: Hmmm... 294 Nebankh 26-Feb-04 16:44
Au Contraire... 290 Morph 27-Feb-04 14:36


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