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I agree. There is no evidence that Jesus -- as he has evolved with the telling of the stories and the history of the church -- ever existed. It's pretty clear that he is an amalgam of old mythical and religious figures from various cultures and traditions, and he may be a composite of real people that may or may not have an inkling of someone who may have acted as a catalyst for creating this character in a teller's mind. It's common for people to build characters and stories on the sketchy scaffold of historical events and scenarios. For example, the names of cities and towns and places may be real; the way the society was structured, its customs, laws, and procedures may be based on reality... such as the census taking or the trial handling, even the way people interact and show their humanity or lack of it, including secular and religious leaders, the military, the rabble, the onlookers, etc.

So, in that sense, stories contain both truth and Truth, but that doesn't mean that they actually happened that way precisely or that the characters actually existed or did or said those things.

I think it's interesting that there is no historical or archaeological evidence for the temple and Solomon. Isn't that also true for Moses and the Exodus? Or am I getting confused?

ananda

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Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 926 ananda 23-Feb-04 02:51
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 332 Milo 23-Feb-04 04:18
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 294 ananda 23-Feb-04 04:47
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 260 Milo 23-Feb-04 05:12
Mod Comment to you two 261 Thirdwave 23-Feb-04 14:42
Re: Mod Comment to you two 268 Milo 23-Feb-04 15:00
Fallen Angels & Co. 282 Nejc 23-Feb-04 15:09
Re: Fallen Angels & Co. 282 Milo 23-Feb-04 15:18
Yes .. ups.. sorry..n/t 275 Nejc 23-Feb-04 15:27
it's me - lol 314 Thirdwave 23-Feb-04 16:19
Re: it's me - lol 309 Milo 23-Feb-04 16:21
No probs n/t 305 Thirdwave 23-Feb-04 16:30
Re: Divine Beings 297 Nebankh 23-Feb-04 16:47
Re: Divine Beings 292 Milo 23-Feb-04 17:17
Divine Agreement to Differ 301 Thirdwave 23-Feb-04 17:58
Re: Divine Agreement to Differ 311 Milo 23-Feb-04 18:22
Believers and Researchers 330 Nejc 23-Feb-04 18:48
I am not a blind believer but a researcher 313 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:01
Re: I am not a blind believer but a researcher 310 Nejc 23-Feb-04 19:15
Re: I am not a blind believer but a researcher 299 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:19
Oh. Thanks for this one :) n/t 302 Nejc 23-Feb-04 19:22
Re: I am not a blind believer but a researcher 256 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:21
On the other hand... 325 Nejc 23-Feb-04 20:21
Re: On the other hand... 298 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:39
Re: Divine Beings 334 drowningcreek 23-Feb-04 19:00
Re: Divine Beings 272 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:09
Re: Divine Beings 326 drowningcreek 23-Feb-04 19:24
Re: Divine Beings 282 David L 23-Feb-04 22:42
Is there another site for serious discussion? 314 drowningcreek 23-Feb-04 23:09
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 305 Paul Mallon 24-Feb-04 18:42
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 289 Milo 24-Feb-04 19:42
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 273 David L 25-Feb-04 01:48
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 267 Milo 25-Feb-04 02:14
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 284 David L 25-Feb-04 03:03
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 262 Milo 25-Feb-04 06:37
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 275 David L 25-Feb-04 16:30
No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 276 Milo 25-Feb-04 17:18
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 279 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 17:47
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 286 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 17:54
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 278 Milo 25-Feb-04 17:58
Re: Cana 284 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 18:30
Re: Cana - missed off a bit! 274 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 18:32
Re: Cana - missed off a bit! 277 Milo 25-Feb-04 19:05
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 248 Milo 25-Feb-04 17:57
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 300 Lee McGiffen 26-Feb-04 08:36
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 313 Nebankh 26-Feb-04 10:19
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 273 ananda 26-Feb-04 16:01
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 300 Milo 26-Feb-04 16:14
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 304 Nebankh 26-Feb-04 16:23
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 318 Milo 26-Feb-04 16:27
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 297 Nebankh 26-Feb-04 16:58
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 262 Milo 26-Feb-04 17:01
Augustinian vs. Gnostic (and even Pelagian) 288 ananda 26-Feb-04 17:30
Re: Augustinian vs. Gnostic (and even Pelagian) 288 Milo 26-Feb-04 17:43
In Addition.... 264 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 18:50
Point was missed 254 ananda 26-Feb-04 18:58
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 277 ArmchairObserver 25-Feb-04 18:45
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 257 Zosimos 25-Feb-04 18:53
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 273 ArmchairObserver 25-Feb-04 19:02
I misread the quoted passage... 263 Milo 25-Feb-04 19:28
Re: I misread the quoted passage... 312 David L 25-Feb-04 23:20
Re: I misread the quoted passage... 266 Milo 25-Feb-04 23:31
One more thing... 294 David L 25-Feb-04 23:25
Re: One more thing... 291 Milo 25-Feb-04 23:32
Also... 287 Milo 25-Feb-04 23:41
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 289 David L 25-Feb-04 23:08
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 283 Thirdwave 25-Feb-04 23:33
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 302 Milo 25-Feb-04 23:36
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 279 Kboldt 25-Feb-04 19:01
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 278 Milo 25-Feb-04 19:37
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 297 Kboldt 25-Feb-04 19:53
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 271 Milo 25-Feb-04 19:58
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 297 sunbeam 23-Feb-04 15:50
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 302 ananda 23-Feb-04 16:15
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 309 Milo 23-Feb-04 16:28
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 313 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:25
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 298 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:36
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 312 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:42
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 306 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:49
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 282 ananda 23-Feb-04 20:22
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 255 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:26
Osirus - Seprapis - Christianity 307 Jaimi 23-Feb-04 21:04
Re: Osirus - Seprapis - Christianity 320 Milo 23-Feb-04 21:27
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 306 ananda 23-Feb-04 20:23
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 307 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:32
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 307 Paul Mallon 24-Feb-04 19:43
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 299 Milo 24-Feb-04 20:19
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 300 Milo 23-Feb-04 16:35
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 271 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:35
And by the way... 304 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:36
Re: And by the way... 315 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:42
Re: And by the way... 266 Kboldt 25-Feb-04 19:14
Re: And by the way... 272 Lee McGiffen 26-Feb-04 08:28
Re: And by the way... 287 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 16:48
Sources? 289 ananda 26-Feb-04 17:24
Re: Sources? 269 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 18:29
Re: And by the way... 381 Zosimos 26-Feb-04 17:00
Re: And by the way... 285 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 17:45
Re: And by the way... 384 Zosimos 26-Feb-04 18:20
Re: And by the way... 270 ananda 26-Feb-04 18:49
Re: And by the way... 367 Zosimos 26-Feb-04 19:15
Re: And by the way... 260 ananda 26-Feb-04 21:11
Re: And by the way... 361 Zosimos 26-Feb-04 23:30
Re: And by the way... 356 Zosimos 27-Feb-04 00:14
Re: And by the way... 274 Kboldt 27-Feb-04 13:35
Re: And by the way... 337 Zosimos 27-Feb-04 16:44
Re: And by the way... 476 Kboldt 27-Feb-04 16:46
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 293 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:40
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 287 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:47
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 330 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:57
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 317 ananda 23-Feb-04 20:19
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 351 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:23
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 313 ananda 23-Feb-04 20:24
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 311 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:34
Challenge to Milo 309 ananda 23-Feb-04 21:21
Re: Challenge to Milo 328 Milo 23-Feb-04 21:38
Re: Challenge to Milo 363 ananda 23-Feb-04 21:43
Re: Challenge to Milo 300 Milo 23-Feb-04 23:31
Yes you are n/t 306 Nejc 23-Feb-04 21:56
Re: Yes you are n/t 281 Milo 23-Feb-04 23:25
Then again... 281 Nejc 24-Feb-04 08:31
Big Blue :) 298 Thirdwave 24-Feb-04 10:54
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 280 debraregypt 23-Feb-04 15:53
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 293 ananda 23-Feb-04 16:16
Archetypes of the collective unconscious 330 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:55
Re: Archetypes of the collective unconscious 317 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:04
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 314 David L 23-Feb-04 22:28
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 297 Milo 23-Feb-04 23:33
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 304 David L 24-Feb-04 01:35
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 297 Milo 24-Feb-04 01:47
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 273 Lee McGiffen 25-Feb-04 09:51
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 260 Kboldt 25-Feb-04 19:22
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 325 Lee McGiffen 26-Feb-04 08:24
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 303 Milo 26-Feb-04 15:55
Lee... What about Moses? 293 ananda 26-Feb-04 16:12
Evidence that Jesus Existed 266 Milo 26-Feb-04 16:16
Re: Lee... What about Moses? 284 David L 26-Feb-04 20:37
Deblinkering debunkers... 281 Morph 24-Feb-04 15:26
Re: Deblinkering debunkers... 287 Zosimos 24-Feb-04 18:50
Re: Deblinkering debunkers... 244 Morph 25-Feb-04 15:33
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 295 Lee McGiffen 25-Feb-04 09:58
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 282 ananda 25-Feb-04 13:10
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 278 Milo 25-Feb-04 16:33
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 271 Kboldt 25-Feb-04 19:27
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 252 Zosimos 25-Feb-04 21:16
Re: Christ and Dionysis - good article 282 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 17:58
6th of January not mentioned in the Bible 271 Milo 25-Feb-04 18:05
Re: 6th of January not mentioned in the Bible 269 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 18:14
Re: 6th of January not mentioned in the Bible 271 Milo 25-Feb-04 18:34
Hmmm... 310 Morph 26-Feb-04 15:16
Re: Hmmm... 294 Morph 26-Feb-04 15:20
Re: Hmmm... 279 Nebankh 26-Feb-04 16:44
Au Contraire... 278 Morph 27-Feb-04 14:36


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