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Kboldt wrote:
>
> Hi Lee,
>
> Can this statement be backed up by physical evidence? For
> every fifty people that say or attempt to prove that Jesus
> and Mary did not really exist, there are fifty people who say
> they can prove they did exist.
>
> By simply making a statement they did not exist proves nothing.
>
> Respectfully,
> Kimberly

It's impossible to prove a negative. No one can PROVE Jesus did not exist. Logically, evidence only exists FOR something. The problem for Christianity is that there is no evidence.

Some say that Josephus wrote about Jesus, but this part of Josephus, in the Syriac version, is well known to be a forgery, written by those desperate to provide some evidence that Jesus existed.

The onus is upon those who claim that Jesus existed to prove that he did.

The gospels themselves don't count. They are not historical documents. besides, there are too many contradictions in them to be taken as historical. Do you take the Greek myths as historical documents?

Besides, it should be obvious to any sensible adult that the miracles attributed to Jesus just do not happen. It can be shown that the miracle of turning water into wine is taken from the myth of Dionysus.

Cheers.

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Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 894 ananda 23-Feb-04 02:51
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 323 Milo 23-Feb-04 04:18
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 284 ananda 23-Feb-04 04:47
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 250 Milo 23-Feb-04 05:12
Mod Comment to you two 252 Thirdwave 23-Feb-04 14:42
Re: Mod Comment to you two 259 Milo 23-Feb-04 15:00
Fallen Angels & Co. 273 Nejc 23-Feb-04 15:09
Re: Fallen Angels & Co. 273 Milo 23-Feb-04 15:18
Yes .. ups.. sorry..n/t 265 Nejc 23-Feb-04 15:27
it's me - lol 305 Thirdwave 23-Feb-04 16:19
Re: it's me - lol 300 Milo 23-Feb-04 16:21
No probs n/t 296 Thirdwave 23-Feb-04 16:30
Re: Divine Beings 289 Nebankh 23-Feb-04 16:47
Re: Divine Beings 283 Milo 23-Feb-04 17:17
Divine Agreement to Differ 292 Thirdwave 23-Feb-04 17:58
Re: Divine Agreement to Differ 301 Milo 23-Feb-04 18:22
Believers and Researchers 320 Nejc 23-Feb-04 18:48
I am not a blind believer but a researcher 302 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:01
Re: I am not a blind believer but a researcher 301 Nejc 23-Feb-04 19:15
Re: I am not a blind believer but a researcher 289 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:19
Oh. Thanks for this one :) n/t 293 Nejc 23-Feb-04 19:22
Re: I am not a blind believer but a researcher 247 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:21
On the other hand... 315 Nejc 23-Feb-04 20:21
Re: On the other hand... 289 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:39
Re: Divine Beings 326 drowningcreek 23-Feb-04 19:00
Re: Divine Beings 263 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:09
Re: Divine Beings 318 drowningcreek 23-Feb-04 19:24
Re: Divine Beings 273 David L 23-Feb-04 22:42
Is there another site for serious discussion? 307 drowningcreek 23-Feb-04 23:09
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 294 Paul Mallon 24-Feb-04 18:42
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 279 Milo 24-Feb-04 19:42
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 264 David L 25-Feb-04 01:48
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 257 Milo 25-Feb-04 02:14
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 273 David L 25-Feb-04 03:03
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 253 Milo 25-Feb-04 06:37
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 266 David L 25-Feb-04 16:30
No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 269 Milo 25-Feb-04 17:18
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 270 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 17:47
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 276 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 17:54
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 269 Milo 25-Feb-04 17:58
Re: Cana 274 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 18:30
Re: Cana - missed off a bit! 265 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 18:32
Re: Cana - missed off a bit! 268 Milo 25-Feb-04 19:05
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 239 Milo 25-Feb-04 17:57
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 290 Lee McGiffen 26-Feb-04 08:36
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 304 Nebankh 26-Feb-04 10:19
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 265 ananda 26-Feb-04 16:01
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 291 Milo 26-Feb-04 16:14
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 295 Nebankh 26-Feb-04 16:23
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 308 Milo 26-Feb-04 16:27
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 288 Nebankh 26-Feb-04 16:58
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 253 Milo 26-Feb-04 17:01
Augustinian vs. Gnostic (and even Pelagian) 278 ananda 26-Feb-04 17:30
Re: Augustinian vs. Gnostic (and even Pelagian) 280 Milo 26-Feb-04 17:43
In Addition.... 255 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 18:50
Point was missed 244 ananda 26-Feb-04 18:58
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 268 ArmchairObserver 25-Feb-04 18:45
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 250 Zosimos 25-Feb-04 18:53
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 263 ArmchairObserver 25-Feb-04 19:02
I misread the quoted passage... 252 Milo 25-Feb-04 19:28
Re: I misread the quoted passage... 303 David L 25-Feb-04 23:20
Re: I misread the quoted passage... 257 Milo 25-Feb-04 23:31
One more thing... 285 David L 25-Feb-04 23:25
Re: One more thing... 282 Milo 25-Feb-04 23:32
Also... 279 Milo 25-Feb-04 23:41
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 280 David L 25-Feb-04 23:08
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 274 Thirdwave 25-Feb-04 23:33
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 292 Milo 25-Feb-04 23:36
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 271 Kboldt 25-Feb-04 19:01
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 269 Milo 25-Feb-04 19:37
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 288 Kboldt 25-Feb-04 19:53
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 262 Milo 25-Feb-04 19:58
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 288 sunbeam 23-Feb-04 15:50
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 294 ananda 23-Feb-04 16:15
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 300 Milo 23-Feb-04 16:28
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 304 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:25
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 290 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:36
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 303 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:42
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 297 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:49
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 273 ananda 23-Feb-04 20:22
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 246 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:26
Osirus - Seprapis - Christianity 298 Jaimi 23-Feb-04 21:04
Re: Osirus - Seprapis - Christianity 311 Milo 23-Feb-04 21:27
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 298 ananda 23-Feb-04 20:23
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 299 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:32
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 298 Paul Mallon 24-Feb-04 19:43
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 291 Milo 24-Feb-04 20:19
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 290 Milo 23-Feb-04 16:35
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 262 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:35
And by the way... 295 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:36
Re: And by the way... 306 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:42
Re: And by the way... 257 Kboldt 25-Feb-04 19:14
Re: And by the way... 263 Lee McGiffen 26-Feb-04 08:28
Re: And by the way... 278 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 16:48
Sources? 280 ananda 26-Feb-04 17:24
Re: Sources? 263 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 18:29
Re: And by the way... 371 Zosimos 26-Feb-04 17:00
Re: And by the way... 277 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 17:45
Re: And by the way... 374 Zosimos 26-Feb-04 18:20
Re: And by the way... 262 ananda 26-Feb-04 18:49
Re: And by the way... 357 Zosimos 26-Feb-04 19:15
Re: And by the way... 251 ananda 26-Feb-04 21:11
Re: And by the way... 352 Zosimos 26-Feb-04 23:30
Re: And by the way... 346 Zosimos 27-Feb-04 00:14
Re: And by the way... 265 Kboldt 27-Feb-04 13:35
Re: And by the way... 328 Zosimos 27-Feb-04 16:44
Re: And by the way... 455 Kboldt 27-Feb-04 16:46
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 283 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:40
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 277 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:47
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 320 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:57
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 308 ananda 23-Feb-04 20:19
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 342 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:23
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 305 ananda 23-Feb-04 20:24
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 302 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:34
Challenge to Milo 300 ananda 23-Feb-04 21:21
Re: Challenge to Milo 319 Milo 23-Feb-04 21:38
Re: Challenge to Milo 354 ananda 23-Feb-04 21:43
Re: Challenge to Milo 290 Milo 23-Feb-04 23:31
Yes you are n/t 297 Nejc 23-Feb-04 21:56
Re: Yes you are n/t 272 Milo 23-Feb-04 23:25
Then again... 272 Nejc 24-Feb-04 08:31
Big Blue :) 290 Thirdwave 24-Feb-04 10:54
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 271 debraregypt 23-Feb-04 15:53
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 283 ananda 23-Feb-04 16:16
Archetypes of the collective unconscious 321 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:55
Re: Archetypes of the collective unconscious 307 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:04
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 305 David L 23-Feb-04 22:28
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 288 Milo 23-Feb-04 23:33
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 295 David L 24-Feb-04 01:35
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 288 Milo 24-Feb-04 01:47
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 264 Lee McGiffen 25-Feb-04 09:51
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 251 Kboldt 25-Feb-04 19:22
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 316 Lee McGiffen 26-Feb-04 08:24
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 294 Milo 26-Feb-04 15:55
Lee... What about Moses? 285 ananda 26-Feb-04 16:12
Evidence that Jesus Existed 258 Milo 26-Feb-04 16:16
Re: Lee... What about Moses? 277 David L 26-Feb-04 20:37
Deblinkering debunkers... 274 Morph 24-Feb-04 15:26
Re: Deblinkering debunkers... 282 Zosimos 24-Feb-04 18:50
Re: Deblinkering debunkers... 238 Morph 25-Feb-04 15:33
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 286 Lee McGiffen 25-Feb-04 09:58
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 275 ananda 25-Feb-04 13:10
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 270 Milo 25-Feb-04 16:33
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 264 Kboldt 25-Feb-04 19:27
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 246 Zosimos 25-Feb-04 21:16
Re: Christ and Dionysis - good article 273 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 17:58
6th of January not mentioned in the Bible 263 Milo 25-Feb-04 18:05
Re: 6th of January not mentioned in the Bible 261 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 18:14
Re: 6th of January not mentioned in the Bible 264 Milo 25-Feb-04 18:34
Hmmm... 304 Morph 26-Feb-04 15:16
Re: Hmmm... 288 Morph 26-Feb-04 15:20
Re: Hmmm... 271 Nebankh 26-Feb-04 16:44
Au Contraire... 272 Morph 27-Feb-04 14:36


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