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I have always considered very plausible the idea that Christian deities have been shaped over the years as amalgamations and offshoots of former gods and figures as they happen to have been assimilated from other cultures and regions.

In Christ, I could see something of Horus and Mithra, for example (Zoroaster as well?)... in Mary, Isis (Astarte, Ishtar?).

Is this valid thinking?

I think some people are saying that the Christ/Mithra connection has been debunked... god, how I hate that word. However, I would like to know how that happened?

Also, I read somewhere that the origin of haloes came from AE depictions of Isis and Horus. Interesting. Remember we were wondering why some Renaissance painters used haloes and others didn't, and why Michelangelo and da Vinci didn't... though da Vinci was coerced into supplying them in his remake "Madonna of the Rocks." The Russians even went so far as to institutionalize haloes in all of their beautifully stylized icons and symbolic religious paintings. By the Middle Ages, belief was absolute and enforced with an iron hand, alternately a fist for coercion and a palm for accepting gifts, alms, tithes, and payment for indulgences.

Well, anyhow, I find it hard to believe that the Christ and Mary that fleshed out over the years just materialized out of the thin rarefied ether of heaven and fell on earth full blown with no other vertical or horizontal influences or histories to help us create them. Or were they indeed products of the spontaneous combustion of divine inspiration and miraculous events such as no one could invent or even come together to help create?

ananda

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Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 948 ananda 23-Feb-04 02:51
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 338 Milo 23-Feb-04 04:18
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 300 ananda 23-Feb-04 04:47
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 267 Milo 23-Feb-04 05:12
Mod Comment to you two 268 Thirdwave 23-Feb-04 14:42
Re: Mod Comment to you two 274 Milo 23-Feb-04 15:00
Fallen Angels & Co. 289 Nejc 23-Feb-04 15:09
Re: Fallen Angels & Co. 290 Milo 23-Feb-04 15:18
Yes .. ups.. sorry..n/t 283 Nejc 23-Feb-04 15:27
it's me - lol 321 Thirdwave 23-Feb-04 16:19
Re: it's me - lol 316 Milo 23-Feb-04 16:21
No probs n/t 312 Thirdwave 23-Feb-04 16:30
Re: Divine Beings 307 Nebankh 23-Feb-04 16:47
Re: Divine Beings 300 Milo 23-Feb-04 17:17
Divine Agreement to Differ 307 Thirdwave 23-Feb-04 17:58
Re: Divine Agreement to Differ 318 Milo 23-Feb-04 18:22
Believers and Researchers 337 Nejc 23-Feb-04 18:48
I am not a blind believer but a researcher 321 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:01
Re: I am not a blind believer but a researcher 318 Nejc 23-Feb-04 19:15
Re: I am not a blind believer but a researcher 306 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:19
Oh. Thanks for this one :) n/t 310 Nejc 23-Feb-04 19:22
Re: I am not a blind believer but a researcher 263 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:21
On the other hand... 332 Nejc 23-Feb-04 20:21
Re: On the other hand... 307 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:39
Re: Divine Beings 340 drowningcreek 23-Feb-04 19:00
Re: Divine Beings 279 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:09
Re: Divine Beings 332 drowningcreek 23-Feb-04 19:24
Re: Divine Beings 290 David L 23-Feb-04 22:42
Is there another site for serious discussion? 321 drowningcreek 23-Feb-04 23:09
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 312 Paul Mallon 24-Feb-04 18:42
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 297 Milo 24-Feb-04 19:42
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 280 David L 25-Feb-04 01:48
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 274 Milo 25-Feb-04 02:14
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 291 David L 25-Feb-04 03:03
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 270 Milo 25-Feb-04 06:37
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 283 David L 25-Feb-04 16:30
No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 282 Milo 25-Feb-04 17:18
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 286 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 17:47
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 293 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 17:54
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 285 Milo 25-Feb-04 17:58
Re: Cana 291 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 18:30
Re: Cana - missed off a bit! 282 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 18:32
Re: Cana - missed off a bit! 285 Milo 25-Feb-04 19:05
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 255 Milo 25-Feb-04 17:57
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 307 Lee McGiffen 26-Feb-04 08:36
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 320 Nebankh 26-Feb-04 10:19
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 279 ananda 26-Feb-04 16:01
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 308 Milo 26-Feb-04 16:14
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 312 Nebankh 26-Feb-04 16:23
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 325 Milo 26-Feb-04 16:27
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 305 Nebankh 26-Feb-04 16:58
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 269 Milo 26-Feb-04 17:01
Augustinian vs. Gnostic (and even Pelagian) 295 ananda 26-Feb-04 17:30
Re: Augustinian vs. Gnostic (and even Pelagian) 296 Milo 26-Feb-04 17:43
In Addition.... 271 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 18:50
Point was missed 262 ananda 26-Feb-04 18:58
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 284 ArmchairObserver 25-Feb-04 18:45
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 263 Zosimos 25-Feb-04 18:53
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 281 ArmchairObserver 25-Feb-04 19:02
I misread the quoted passage... 270 Milo 25-Feb-04 19:28
Re: I misread the quoted passage... 319 David L 25-Feb-04 23:20
Re: I misread the quoted passage... 274 Milo 25-Feb-04 23:31
One more thing... 302 David L 25-Feb-04 23:25
Re: One more thing... 299 Milo 25-Feb-04 23:32
Also... 294 Milo 25-Feb-04 23:41
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 295 David L 25-Feb-04 23:08
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 291 Thirdwave 25-Feb-04 23:33
Re: No Evidence for Jesus' Marriage 308 Milo 25-Feb-04 23:36
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 286 Kboldt 25-Feb-04 19:01
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 285 Milo 25-Feb-04 19:37
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 304 Kboldt 25-Feb-04 19:53
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 280 Milo 25-Feb-04 19:58
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 304 sunbeam 23-Feb-04 15:50
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 309 ananda 23-Feb-04 16:15
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 316 Milo 23-Feb-04 16:28
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 319 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:25
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 307 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:36
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 321 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:42
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 314 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:49
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 290 ananda 23-Feb-04 20:22
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 262 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:26
Osirus - Seprapis - Christianity 314 Jaimi 23-Feb-04 21:04
Re: Osirus - Seprapis - Christianity 327 Milo 23-Feb-04 21:27
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 314 ananda 23-Feb-04 20:23
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 313 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:32
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 314 Paul Mallon 24-Feb-04 19:43
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 308 Milo 24-Feb-04 20:19
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 307 Milo 23-Feb-04 16:35
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 279 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:35
And by the way... 312 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:36
Re: And by the way... 322 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:42
Re: And by the way... 274 Kboldt 25-Feb-04 19:14
Re: And by the way... 280 Lee McGiffen 26-Feb-04 08:28
Re: And by the way... 295 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 16:48
Sources? 296 ananda 26-Feb-04 17:24
Re: Sources? 276 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 18:29
Re: And by the way... 390 Zosimos 26-Feb-04 17:00
Re: And by the way... 293 Kboldt 26-Feb-04 17:45
Re: And by the way... 393 Zosimos 26-Feb-04 18:20
Re: And by the way... 278 ananda 26-Feb-04 18:49
Re: And by the way... 375 Zosimos 26-Feb-04 19:15
Re: And by the way... 267 ananda 26-Feb-04 21:11
Re: And by the way... 370 Zosimos 26-Feb-04 23:30
Re: And by the way... 364 Zosimos 27-Feb-04 00:14
Re: And by the way... 281 Kboldt 27-Feb-04 13:35
Re: And by the way... 347 Zosimos 27-Feb-04 16:44
Re: And by the way... 489 Kboldt 27-Feb-04 16:46
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 300 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:40
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 294 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:47
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 337 Milo 23-Feb-04 19:57
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 326 ananda 23-Feb-04 20:19
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 360 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:23
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 322 ananda 23-Feb-04 20:24
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 318 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:34
Challenge to Milo 316 ananda 23-Feb-04 21:21
Re: Challenge to Milo 334 Milo 23-Feb-04 21:38
Re: Challenge to Milo 371 ananda 23-Feb-04 21:43
Re: Challenge to Milo 308 Milo 23-Feb-04 23:31
Yes you are n/t 314 Nejc 23-Feb-04 21:56
Re: Yes you are n/t 289 Milo 23-Feb-04 23:25
Then again... 288 Nejc 24-Feb-04 08:31
Big Blue :) 306 Thirdwave 24-Feb-04 10:54
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 287 debraregypt 23-Feb-04 15:53
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 300 ananda 23-Feb-04 16:16
Archetypes of the collective unconscious 337 ananda 23-Feb-04 19:55
Re: Archetypes of the collective unconscious 325 Milo 23-Feb-04 20:04
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 321 David L 23-Feb-04 22:28
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 303 Milo 23-Feb-04 23:33
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 311 David L 24-Feb-04 01:35
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 304 Milo 24-Feb-04 01:47
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 279 Lee McGiffen 25-Feb-04 09:51
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 267 Kboldt 25-Feb-04 19:22
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 332 Lee McGiffen 26-Feb-04 08:24
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 310 Milo 26-Feb-04 15:55
Lee... What about Moses? 300 ananda 26-Feb-04 16:12
Evidence that Jesus Existed 273 Milo 26-Feb-04 16:16
Re: Lee... What about Moses? 290 David L 26-Feb-04 20:37
Deblinkering debunkers... 286 Morph 24-Feb-04 15:26
Re: Deblinkering debunkers... 292 Zosimos 24-Feb-04 18:50
Re: Deblinkering debunkers... 249 Morph 25-Feb-04 15:33
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 302 Lee McGiffen 25-Feb-04 09:58
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 288 ananda 25-Feb-04 13:10
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 283 Milo 25-Feb-04 16:33
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 277 Kboldt 25-Feb-04 19:27
Re: Christ:Mithra ... Mary:Isis ... 258 Zosimos 25-Feb-04 21:16
Re: Christ and Dionysis - good article 288 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 17:58
6th of January not mentioned in the Bible 278 Milo 25-Feb-04 18:05
Re: 6th of January not mentioned in the Bible 275 Nebankh 25-Feb-04 18:14
Re: 6th of January not mentioned in the Bible 277 Milo 25-Feb-04 18:34
Hmmm... 316 Morph 26-Feb-04 15:16
Re: Hmmm... 299 Morph 26-Feb-04 15:20
Re: Hmmm... 288 Nebankh 26-Feb-04 16:44
Au Contraire... 285 Morph 27-Feb-04 14:36


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