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Richard Fusniak wrote:
>
> I have a problem when people say they have a spiritual
> teacher. I find that most of the time these "teachers" have
> arrived at a point of awareness simply by reading stuff which
> originates from New Age type books and often incorporate
> dubious topics from distorted or unreliable religious based
> material or cults.
>
> Tell us about your teacher, what values you learn and why you
> need one when you have all that is within you to teach
> yourself, David.
>
> Fuzzy

Some of them have pulled their stuff from books, but not mine. She was initiated in the early sixties by a Punjabi teacher named Charan Singh, when NOBODY was doing that stuff... Spent years with him in India. He was last real adept of India. Pre-Beatles... She doesn't just teach--she acts. She works on us from inside and makes changes... It's not about values. Values are a given when you love people. It's about learning to die while living, which is learning to leave the body through a very specific meditation. Leave the body and go inward and upward--not to have "experiences", but to merge with All That Is. To become God, which is what we all are at our innermost core. It's about learning to love and accept love, and lose the self, rise above the mind. Use it, rather than be used by it....

We are very small, numbers wise and that is absolutely critical because it's the only way to achieve the intimacy necessary to transfer what the adept has to the initiates. It takes lots of contact, lots of one-on-one--in most cases. I have seen her make other adepts. I have explained here many times over about the need for a living adept, as opposed to one who has passed on. It comes down to that. We all have what is needed to reach the Source, but it takes an adept to quicken that, to bring it to the forefront of our consciousness so that it may be realized through meditation. If want to research it--the Shabd path, or "path of Sound and Light--there's plenty out there.
You say you have a problem with teachers... Does that include Jesus, Rumi, Siddartha, Krishna, Nanak, and the thousands who's names we'll never know--or is it only modern day teachers who are not needed, in your view?
Do you also have it in you be a virtuoso pianist? Many do--they are born with it. But they still hire teachers. And that goes for every discipline. Why not for the science of the soul?
David

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Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 661 Jergat 09-Feb-04 08:32
Moderator note 210 Richard Fusniak 09-Feb-04 19:18
Re: Moderator note 199 Jergat 09-Feb-04 22:13
Re: Moderator note 186 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 00:23
Re: Moderator note 188 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 00:30
Re: Moderator note 193 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 00:50
Re: Moderator note 186 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:17
About the moderation process 194 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 02:54
Re: About the moderation process 187 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 03:07
Re: About the moderation process 203 Cleopatra 10-Feb-04 20:10
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 188 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 00:59
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 190 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:38
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 171 Jergat 10-Feb-04 05:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 249 Briffits 10-Feb-04 09:27
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 206 Milo 10-Feb-04 16:17
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 204 Paul Cochrane 10-Feb-04 17:48
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 188 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:11
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 182 David L 10-Feb-04 18:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 176 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:46
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 193 Paul Cochrane 10-Feb-04 18:43
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 173 Briffits 10-Feb-04 22:12
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 187 Milo 10-Feb-04 23:05
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 189 Briffits 11-Feb-04 00:03
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 183 Milo 11-Feb-04 00:07
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 183 Briffits 11-Feb-04 10:25
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 188 Milo 11-Feb-04 15:19
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 178 Briffits 11-Feb-04 20:19
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 177 Milo 11-Feb-04 23:01
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 180 Briffits 12-Feb-04 00:23
Henceforth and forthwith... 197 Milo 12-Feb-04 00:53
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 181 Milo 11-Feb-04 17:08
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 183 Briffits 11-Feb-04 19:17
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 183 Milo 11-Feb-04 19:30
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 189 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 14:55
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 189 David L 10-Feb-04 01:23
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 199 Milo 10-Feb-04 02:15
Music from other spheres 199 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 02:59
Re: Music from other spheres 178 Milo 10-Feb-04 03:11
Possibly wrong again 181 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 03:15
Re: Possibly wrong again 183 Milo 10-Feb-04 03:24
Musical mediums 184 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 12:58
Musical plane 198 Kees 10-Feb-04 13:53
Re: Musical plane 184 Milo 10-Feb-04 15:48
Re: Musical plane 189 Kees 10-Feb-04 16:10
Re: Musical mediums 177 Milo 10-Feb-04 15:49
Re: Musical mediums 194 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 16:14
Re: Musical mediums 194 Milo 10-Feb-04 16:25
Re: Musical mediums 186 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 19:02
Re: Musical mediums 178 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:10
Poo-Pooing "channels" 182 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 22:19
Re: Poo-Pooing 179 Milo 10-Feb-04 23:09
Re: Possibly wrong again 184 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 03:49
Talking of Bach.... 188 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 09:29
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 187 David L 10-Feb-04 18:32
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 173 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:58
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 188 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:29
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 199 David L 10-Feb-04 18:39
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 190 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:01
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 186 David L 10-Feb-04 19:12
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 191 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:20
Gifts 164 Jergat 10-Feb-04 20:44
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 192 David L 10-Feb-04 23:35
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 234 Saorsa 10-Feb-04 14:38
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 180 David L 10-Feb-04 19:05
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 239 Saorsa 11-Feb-04 08:29
Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 203 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 15:05
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 187 David L 10-Feb-04 18:51
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 189 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:04
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 178 David L 10-Feb-04 19:13
Listening By Numbers 209 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 15:20
Re: Listening By Numbers 190 David L 10-Feb-04 19:19
Re: Listening By Numbers 177 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 19:43
Re: Listening By Numbers 191 David L 10-Feb-04 23:39
Re: Listening By Numbers 183 Briffits 11-Feb-04 03:11
Re: Listening By Numbers 185 Thirdwave 12-Feb-04 17:46
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 187 Kees 10-Feb-04 15:25
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 183 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 18:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 211 Mark Staab 11-Feb-04 06:08
Work work work 191 Kees 11-Feb-04 10:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 173 David L 10-Feb-04 19:24
Books 181 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 22:36
Re: Books 177 David L 10-Feb-04 23:44
Teachers 186 Richard Fusniak 11-Feb-04 02:08
Re: Teachers 183 David L 11-Feb-04 03:07
Re: Teachers 191 Kees 11-Feb-04 10:16
Re: Teachers 179 David L 11-Feb-04 17:47
The yoga of sound 198 Kees 11-Feb-04 21:55
Re: The yoga of sound 182 David L 11-Feb-04 22:07
Small world indeed 176 Kees 11-Feb-04 22:42
Re: Teachers 186 Richard Fusniak 11-Feb-04 23:24
Re: Teachers 181 David L 12-Feb-04 01:49
Spirtual arrogance and delusion 191 Richard Fusniak 12-Feb-04 02:18
An apology 183 Richard Fusniak 12-Feb-04 12:34
Re: An apology 175 fisherman 12-Feb-04 16:11
Re: An apology 212 David L 12-Feb-04 19:46
The wheel of life. 186 Richard Fusniak 13-Feb-04 01:32
The Catapillar and the Butterfly 189 Milo 13-Feb-04 01:35
Re: The Catapillar and the Butterfly 395 David L 13-Feb-04 02:52
Re: The wheel of life. 184 David L 13-Feb-04 02:50
Re: Teachers 183 Hoppy 11-Feb-04 03:19
Re: Teachers 188 David L 11-Feb-04 17:48
Re: Teachers 183 Hoppy 11-Feb-04 20:08


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