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I think if the source of creativity is to be considered with regards to music, then some narrowing of scope would help. There is no one size fits all approach to either composing or improvising so one would need to define the hypothetical individual in question as to background, idiom, schooled versus self taught, degree of exposure to different approaches, conventional, graphic, a combination or no notation at all. Is it composing for the page, with or without being heard as written, solely for the ear, for tape or hard disk? Are the motivations behind the composition emotional, intellectual, programmatic? The answer to your question changes as more of those are determined.

In improv, the idiom one is playing in changes and either narrows or widens the number of choices available at any given moment. So a thorough bass improvisor's approach was different than a Lizst or Scriabin's was, than a dixieland jazz player's polyphony, a bebopper's soloing over chord changes, or a post bop player altering the changes against a given theme, than a free jazzer's action painting in sound, than an Indian Raga, Balinese Gamelan or Shona mbira player's. Is it against a fixed meter, non-metered pulse, arhythmic or whatever happens in the moment. How about so called non-idiomatic improvisation which requires virtuosic listening more than anything and while there may be notes and chords involved they are tangential to the proceedings. Though really in even the most rigid forms the intangibles of phrasing and timbral variation, voicings, etc. are seemingly endless. In my small experience thinking is the last thing you want to do in improvisation. The idea is to get your conscious mind out of the way and interact with what you're hearing. Perceptions about what is working and what isn't is not the same in the moment as in listening to a document of it later.

This may seem like nitpicking, but I look at the context of Poe's statement. To him hearing music would have been an ephemeral experience of a very limited amount of music; some popular songs of the time, parlor pieces, etc. Major pieces of symphonic music might be heard once or twice in a lifetime. He probably knew about Bach and Mozart, likely not Schubert or Beethoven, let alone African, Indian, Japanese or what have you. Today our experience of music is nearly all electronic, that to some degree or another intends to create the illusion of a real physical space, or sometimes emphatically doesn't. We have unprecedented opportunities for hearing sounds from all over the planet. The very definition of the boundaries of what is and isn't music has changed drastically. There are many more ideas in music today than there would have been in the music of Poe's time as the 20th C saw an explosion in the available sound world, conceptual underpinnings and the uses that were and are made of music.

As to where inspiration originates is anyone's guess; not from the ego and the conscious mind though in my opinion.

Briffits

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Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 660 Jergat 09-Feb-04 08:32
Moderator note 210 Richard Fusniak 09-Feb-04 19:18
Re: Moderator note 199 Jergat 09-Feb-04 22:13
Re: Moderator note 186 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 00:23
Re: Moderator note 188 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 00:30
Re: Moderator note 192 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 00:50
Re: Moderator note 186 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:17
About the moderation process 194 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 02:54
Re: About the moderation process 187 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 03:07
Re: About the moderation process 203 Cleopatra 10-Feb-04 20:10
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 188 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 00:59
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 190 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:38
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 171 Jergat 10-Feb-04 05:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 248 Briffits 10-Feb-04 09:27
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 206 Milo 10-Feb-04 16:17
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 204 Paul Cochrane 10-Feb-04 17:48
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 188 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:11
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 182 David L 10-Feb-04 18:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 176 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:46
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 193 Paul Cochrane 10-Feb-04 18:43
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 173 Briffits 10-Feb-04 22:12
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 187 Milo 10-Feb-04 23:05
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 189 Briffits 11-Feb-04 00:03
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 183 Milo 11-Feb-04 00:07
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 182 Briffits 11-Feb-04 10:25
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 188 Milo 11-Feb-04 15:19
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 178 Briffits 11-Feb-04 20:19
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 177 Milo 11-Feb-04 23:01
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 180 Briffits 12-Feb-04 00:23
Henceforth and forthwith... 197 Milo 12-Feb-04 00:53
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 180 Milo 11-Feb-04 17:08
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 183 Briffits 11-Feb-04 19:17
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 183 Milo 11-Feb-04 19:30
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 189 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 14:55
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 189 David L 10-Feb-04 01:23
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 199 Milo 10-Feb-04 02:15
Music from other spheres 198 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 02:59
Re: Music from other spheres 178 Milo 10-Feb-04 03:11
Possibly wrong again 181 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 03:15
Re: Possibly wrong again 183 Milo 10-Feb-04 03:24
Musical mediums 184 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 12:58
Musical plane 198 Kees 10-Feb-04 13:53
Re: Musical plane 184 Milo 10-Feb-04 15:48
Re: Musical plane 189 Kees 10-Feb-04 16:10
Re: Musical mediums 177 Milo 10-Feb-04 15:49
Re: Musical mediums 194 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 16:14
Re: Musical mediums 193 Milo 10-Feb-04 16:25
Re: Musical mediums 186 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 19:02
Re: Musical mediums 177 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:10
Poo-Pooing "channels" 182 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 22:19
Re: Poo-Pooing 179 Milo 10-Feb-04 23:09
Re: Possibly wrong again 184 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 03:49
Talking of Bach.... 188 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 09:29
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 187 David L 10-Feb-04 18:32
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 173 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:58
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 188 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:29
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 198 David L 10-Feb-04 18:39
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 190 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:01
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 186 David L 10-Feb-04 19:12
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 191 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:20
Gifts 163 Jergat 10-Feb-04 20:44
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 192 David L 10-Feb-04 23:35
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 234 Saorsa 10-Feb-04 14:38
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 180 David L 10-Feb-04 19:05
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 238 Saorsa 11-Feb-04 08:29
Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 203 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 15:05
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 186 David L 10-Feb-04 18:51
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 189 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:04
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 178 David L 10-Feb-04 19:13
Listening By Numbers 209 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 15:20
Re: Listening By Numbers 190 David L 10-Feb-04 19:19
Re: Listening By Numbers 177 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 19:43
Re: Listening By Numbers 191 David L 10-Feb-04 23:39
Re: Listening By Numbers 183 Briffits 11-Feb-04 03:11
Re: Listening By Numbers 185 Thirdwave 12-Feb-04 17:46
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 187 Kees 10-Feb-04 15:25
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 183 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 18:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 211 Mark Staab 11-Feb-04 06:08
Work work work 191 Kees 11-Feb-04 10:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 173 David L 10-Feb-04 19:24
Books 180 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 22:36
Re: Books 176 David L 10-Feb-04 23:44
Teachers 186 Richard Fusniak 11-Feb-04 02:08
Re: Teachers 183 David L 11-Feb-04 03:07
Re: Teachers 191 Kees 11-Feb-04 10:16
Re: Teachers 179 David L 11-Feb-04 17:47
The yoga of sound 197 Kees 11-Feb-04 21:55
Re: The yoga of sound 182 David L 11-Feb-04 22:07
Small world indeed 176 Kees 11-Feb-04 22:42
Re: Teachers 186 Richard Fusniak 11-Feb-04 23:24
Re: Teachers 181 David L 12-Feb-04 01:49
Spirtual arrogance and delusion 190 Richard Fusniak 12-Feb-04 02:18
An apology 183 Richard Fusniak 12-Feb-04 12:34
Re: An apology 175 fisherman 12-Feb-04 16:11
Re: An apology 212 David L 12-Feb-04 19:46
The wheel of life. 186 Richard Fusniak 13-Feb-04 01:32
The Catapillar and the Butterfly 188 Milo 13-Feb-04 01:35
Re: The Catapillar and the Butterfly 395 David L 13-Feb-04 02:52
Re: The wheel of life. 184 David L 13-Feb-04 02:50
Re: Teachers 183 Hoppy 11-Feb-04 03:19
Re: Teachers 188 David L 11-Feb-04 17:48
Re: Teachers 183 Hoppy 11-Feb-04 20:08


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