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One thing about my personality is that I can see these connections really clearly, but other people have trouble understanding what I am talking about, so I'll start off with this post explaining my opinion on the origin of a human perspective of music.

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I can think of many connections with the notion of synchronicity and the collective consciousness when it comes to music. The very notion of music itself is conceived of as mere sounds, however, without thought, there is only music. Here's what Edgar Allen Poe had to say:

"SHADOWS OF shadows passing. It is now 1831, and as always I am absorbed with a delicate thought. It is how poetry has indefinite sensations, to which end music is inessential. Since the comprehension of sweet sound is our most indefinite conception, music, when combined with a pleasurable idea, is poetry. Music without the idea is simply music. Without music or an intriguing idea, colour becomes pallor, man becomes carcase, home becomes catacomb, and the dead are but for a moment motionless."

So Poe understands that music without an idea is simply music. But when thought is combined with the music, well, that's where the indefinite come in. Very interesting stuff.

When we think about classical music and refined or ancient musical techniqe, we don't assume that it suddenly sprung from nothing. It was indeed a learning process. Beethoven, Bach and Mozart wrote their music inspired by their surroundings and emotions, so right here we see that there is something more to music than just straight sound. But we find music in nature; birds singing, rivers rushing and trees swaying in the wind - in essence, the music of the spheres, transcended into elemental vibrations, on planet earth. But no more is human made sound just primitive grunting and growls. It has matured and manifested itself into the creation of all music we hear and this is an important theme to remember when dealing with synchronicity.

Jeremy

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Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 660 Jergat 09-Feb-04 08:32
Moderator note 210 Richard Fusniak 09-Feb-04 19:18
Re: Moderator note 199 Jergat 09-Feb-04 22:13
Re: Moderator note 186 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 00:23
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Re: Moderator note 192 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 00:50
Re: Moderator note 186 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:17
About the moderation process 194 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 02:54
Re: About the moderation process 187 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 03:07
Re: About the moderation process 203 Cleopatra 10-Feb-04 20:10
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 188 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 00:59
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 190 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:38
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 171 Jergat 10-Feb-04 05:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 249 Briffits 10-Feb-04 09:27
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 206 Milo 10-Feb-04 16:17
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 204 Paul Cochrane 10-Feb-04 17:48
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 188 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:11
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 182 David L 10-Feb-04 18:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 176 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:46
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 193 Paul Cochrane 10-Feb-04 18:43
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 173 Briffits 10-Feb-04 22:12
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 187 Milo 10-Feb-04 23:05
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 189 Briffits 11-Feb-04 00:03
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 183 Milo 11-Feb-04 00:07
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 182 Briffits 11-Feb-04 10:25
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 188 Milo 11-Feb-04 15:19
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 178 Briffits 11-Feb-04 20:19
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 177 Milo 11-Feb-04 23:01
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 180 Briffits 12-Feb-04 00:23
Henceforth and forthwith... 197 Milo 12-Feb-04 00:53
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 180 Milo 11-Feb-04 17:08
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 183 Briffits 11-Feb-04 19:17
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 183 Milo 11-Feb-04 19:30
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 189 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 14:55
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 189 David L 10-Feb-04 01:23
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 199 Milo 10-Feb-04 02:15
Music from other spheres 198 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 02:59
Re: Music from other spheres 178 Milo 10-Feb-04 03:11
Possibly wrong again 181 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 03:15
Re: Possibly wrong again 183 Milo 10-Feb-04 03:24
Musical mediums 184 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 12:58
Musical plane 198 Kees 10-Feb-04 13:53
Re: Musical plane 184 Milo 10-Feb-04 15:48
Re: Musical plane 189 Kees 10-Feb-04 16:10
Re: Musical mediums 177 Milo 10-Feb-04 15:49
Re: Musical mediums 194 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 16:14
Re: Musical mediums 193 Milo 10-Feb-04 16:25
Re: Musical mediums 186 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 19:02
Re: Musical mediums 177 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:10
Poo-Pooing "channels" 182 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 22:19
Re: Poo-Pooing 179 Milo 10-Feb-04 23:09
Re: Possibly wrong again 184 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 03:49
Talking of Bach.... 188 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 09:29
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 187 David L 10-Feb-04 18:32
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 173 Milo 10-Feb-04 18:58
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 188 fiascohoho 10-Feb-04 02:29
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 198 David L 10-Feb-04 18:39
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 190 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:01
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 186 David L 10-Feb-04 19:12
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 191 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:20
Gifts 163 Jergat 10-Feb-04 20:44
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 192 David L 10-Feb-04 23:35
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 234 Saorsa 10-Feb-04 14:38
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 180 David L 10-Feb-04 19:05
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 239 Saorsa 11-Feb-04 08:29
Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 203 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 15:05
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 186 David L 10-Feb-04 18:51
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 189 Milo 10-Feb-04 19:04
Re: Pray Mr. Lamond, tell me... 178 David L 10-Feb-04 19:13
Listening By Numbers 209 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 15:20
Re: Listening By Numbers 190 David L 10-Feb-04 19:19
Re: Listening By Numbers 177 Thirdwave 10-Feb-04 19:43
Re: Listening By Numbers 191 David L 10-Feb-04 23:39
Re: Listening By Numbers 183 Briffits 11-Feb-04 03:11
Re: Listening By Numbers 185 Thirdwave 12-Feb-04 17:46
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 187 Kees 10-Feb-04 15:25
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 183 Hoppy 10-Feb-04 18:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 211 Mark Staab 11-Feb-04 06:08
Work work work 191 Kees 11-Feb-04 10:36
Re: Music Synchronicity Part 2: Music vs. Idea 173 David L 10-Feb-04 19:24
Books 180 Richard Fusniak 10-Feb-04 22:36
Re: Books 176 David L 10-Feb-04 23:44
Teachers 186 Richard Fusniak 11-Feb-04 02:08
Re: Teachers 183 David L 11-Feb-04 03:07
Re: Teachers 191 Kees 11-Feb-04 10:16
Re: Teachers 179 David L 11-Feb-04 17:47
The yoga of sound 197 Kees 11-Feb-04 21:55
Re: The yoga of sound 182 David L 11-Feb-04 22:07
Small world indeed 176 Kees 11-Feb-04 22:42
Re: Teachers 186 Richard Fusniak 11-Feb-04 23:24
Re: Teachers 181 David L 12-Feb-04 01:49
Spirtual arrogance and delusion 190 Richard Fusniak 12-Feb-04 02:18
An apology 183 Richard Fusniak 12-Feb-04 12:34
Re: An apology 175 fisherman 12-Feb-04 16:11
Re: An apology 212 David L 12-Feb-04 19:46
The wheel of life. 186 Richard Fusniak 13-Feb-04 01:32
The Catapillar and the Butterfly 188 Milo 13-Feb-04 01:35
Re: The Catapillar and the Butterfly 395 David L 13-Feb-04 02:52
Re: The wheel of life. 184 David L 13-Feb-04 02:50
Re: Teachers 183 Hoppy 11-Feb-04 03:19
Re: Teachers 188 David L 11-Feb-04 17:48
Re: Teachers 183 Hoppy 11-Feb-04 20:08


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