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(Woe to the fallen, for they do not see themselves as such but as those exalted.)


I've found something that seems interestingly related but is their anything else?

15- "Woe to those who go to great depths to hide their plans from the Lord, who do their work in darkness and think, "Who sees us? Who will know?" 16- You turn things upside down, as if the potter were thought to be like the clay! .... Isaiah 29


This seems to be related to those who would play "adept and initiate" does it not? ..."Adept and Initiate" also falling as the descriptitory for Orders with secret teaching; agendas and whatnot.

This may actually prove wrong what David L is saying about adepts and initiation in relation to Jesus as it appears to be speaking against it and as their can be found nothing that is speaking for it.


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Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 743 Cesar 24-Jan-04 02:22
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 173 Zosimos 24-Jan-04 03:05
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 170 Cesar 24-Jan-04 03:41
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 161 Zosimos 24-Jan-04 23:39
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 170 Milo 25-Jan-04 00:02
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 177 Zosimos 25-Jan-04 00:55
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 164 Milo 25-Jan-04 01:40
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 504 ThreeFeathers 03-Feb-04 19:41
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 225 Milo 24-Jan-04 03:20
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 186 Cesar 24-Jan-04 04:13
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 173 David L 24-Jan-04 22:20
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 181 Milo 24-Jan-04 22:57
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 170 David L 25-Jan-04 03:55
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 146 Milo 25-Jan-04 05:37
Mod Remark - For Rob and David 184 Thirdwave 25-Jan-04 15:00
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 160 banah 25-Jan-04 16:56
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 162 Hoppy 26-Jan-04 03:52
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 172 Milo 26-Jan-04 04:32
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 321 Hoppy 26-Jan-04 06:06
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 184 Milo 26-Jan-04 14:01
Invented??? 151 Cookiemonsters 29-Jan-04 22:49
Re: Invented??? 184 David L 30-Jan-04 03:37
Re: Invented??? 236 Cookiemonsters 31-Jan-04 06:28
Re: Invented??? 185 banah 31-Jan-04 08:26
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 180 Dominick Ohrbeck 31-Jan-04 09:33
Re: Does anyone know of anything else related to this? 152 Dominick Ohrbeck 31-Jan-04 09:37


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