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A man or woman who is no longer on the the planet cannot initiate anyone who IS on the planet. The initiation by the Holy Spirit/Shabd/Logos comes only through an adept--not directly. This is why Jesus had to receive it from John the Baptist, and why Jesus apostles had to receive it from him so they could in turn initiate others. A few of them did, anyway...
The "Son" part of the Trinity is always present in the world. Sometimes there are many masters fulfilling that role, sometimes just a few, but they are always present in the world physically.

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reincarnation 709 Melusine 19-Jan-04 20:55
Re: reincarnation 236 Zosimos 19-Jan-04 21:53
Re: reincarnation 194 Melusine 19-Jan-04 21:59
Re: reincarnation 217 Zosimos 20-Jan-04 00:09
Re: reincarnation 206 Melusine 20-Jan-04 03:59
Re: reincarnation 194 David L 19-Jan-04 23:24
Re: reincarnation 223 Milo 19-Jan-04 23:38
Re: reincarnation 215 David L 20-Jan-04 15:08
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Re: reincarnation 214 David L 21-Jan-04 15:10
Re: reincarnation 206 Zosimos 20-Jan-04 00:23
Re: reincarnation 205 David L 20-Jan-04 15:03
Re: reincarnation 215 Zosimos 20-Jan-04 21:38
Re: reincarnation 168 David L 20-Jan-04 23:22
Re: reincarnation 216 Melusine 20-Jan-04 18:57
Re: reincarnation 204 Melusine 20-Jan-04 04:12
Re: reincarnation 183 David L 20-Jan-04 15:21
Re: reincarnation 195 gene douglas 20-Jan-04 17:13
Re: reincarnation 191 David L 20-Jan-04 18:54
Re: reincarnation 201 gene douglas 20-Jan-04 19:27
Re: reincarnation 219 David L 20-Jan-04 23:35
Re: reincarnation 242 banah 25-Jan-04 20:54
Re: reincarnation 213 David L 26-Jan-04 04:23
Re: reincarnation 208 banah 30-Jan-04 19:54
Water Symbolism 183 Cleopatra 11-Feb-04 13:59
Re: Water Symbolism 202 David L 11-Feb-04 17:32
Re: reincarnation 238 HarryWJYoung 21-Jan-04 10:16
Re: reincarnation 242 gene douglas 21-Jan-04 13:26
Re: reincarnation 199 HarryWJYoung 22-Jan-04 00:21
Re: reincarnation 216 David L 21-Jan-04 15:26
Re: reincarnation 224 HarryWJYoung 21-Jan-04 16:02
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Re: reincarnation 200 banah 25-Jan-04 19:41
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Re: reincarnation 210 David L 20-Jan-04 23:41
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Re: reincarnation 166 Nebankh 22-Jan-04 12:44
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Re: reincarnation 353 Cesar 22-Jan-04 22:49
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Re: reincarnation 225 HarryWJYoung 23-Jan-04 09:41
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Re: reincarnation 220 HarryWJYoung 23-Jan-04 16:35
Re: reincarnation 204 HarryWJYoung 23-Jan-04 17:06
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Re: reincarnation 445 David L 23-Jan-04 20:10
Re: reincarnation 183 Milo 23-Jan-04 20:50
Re: reincarnation 182 David L 23-Jan-04 23:06
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Re: reincarnation 202 David L 24-Jan-04 01:04
Re: reincarnation 198 ArmchairObserver 24-Jan-04 07:43
Re: reincarnation 233 Cesar 24-Jan-04 17:31
Re: reincarnation 218 Cesar 24-Jan-04 00:31
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Re: reincarnation 201 Milo 22-Jan-04 23:17
Re: reincarnation 175 Zosimos 22-Jan-04 22:53
Re: reincarnation 220 lobo-hotei 19-Jan-04 23:26
Re: reincarnation 218 Zosimos 20-Jan-04 00:27
Re: reincarnation 185 ArmchairObserver 21-Jan-04 09:08
Re: reincarnation 239 RichardC 20-Jan-04 13:06
Re: reincarnation 212 SunSword 14-Feb-04 18:13
Master of your own ship 373 Richard Fusniak 14-Feb-04 18:31
Re: reincarnation 210 David L 19-Jan-04 23:16
Re: reincarnation 226 newrisingsun 19-Jan-04 23:37
Re: reincarnation 189 David L 20-Jan-04 01:33
Re: reincarnation 202 newrisingsun 20-Jan-04 17:04
Re: reincarnation 172 Saorsa 20-Jan-04 08:46
Re: reincarnation 308 Aarooga 20-Jan-04 16:35
Re: reincarnation 169 Saorsa 21-Jan-04 08:20
Re: reincarnation 204 ArmchairObserver 21-Jan-04 09:15
Re: reincarnation 187 Saorsa 21-Jan-04 11:58
Re: reincarnation 167 ArmchairObserver 21-Jan-04 15:33
Re: reincarnation 185 Saorsa 21-Jan-04 16:19
Re: reincarnation 231 Aarooga 22-Jan-04 13:13
Re: reincarnation 192 Saorsa 22-Jan-04 14:48
Re: reincarnation 221 Dominick Ohrbeck 20-Jan-04 20:21
Fuzzy 202 Richard Fusniak 20-Jan-04 23:21
Re: Fuzzy 184 Saorsa 21-Jan-04 08:35
Re: Fuzzy 198 Mark Staab 22-Jan-04 21:53
Re: reincarnation 193 Segestan 21-Jan-04 16:33
Re: reincarnation 172 Earache 21-Jan-04 21:34
Re: reincarnation 208 Trygve Hogebol 22-Jan-04 07:17
Re: reincarnation 185 Earache 24-Jan-04 13:07
Re: reincarnation 188 Richard Fusniak 25-Jan-04 21:17
Re: reincarnation 191 Earache 31-Jan-04 15:42
Re: reincarnation 201 Alex S 26-Jan-04 01:56
Telepathic link doesn't explain reincarnation 192 Richard Fusniak 27-Jan-04 01:26
Re: Telepathic link doesn't explain reincarnation 190 Alex S 27-Jan-04 15:11
Re: Telepathic link doesn't explain reincarnation 188 Richard Fusniak 29-Jan-04 02:04
Re: Telepathic link doesn't explain reincarnation 213 Alex S 29-Jan-04 12:13
Planetary Consciousness 174 Trygve Hogebol 30-Jan-04 05:59
Re: Planetary Consciousness 193 Mark Staab 30-Jan-04 16:18
Re: Telepathic link doesn't explain reincarnation 257 timewaster 29-Jan-04 16:25
The value of regression 204 Richard Fusniak 31-Jan-04 23:17
Re: The value of regression 194 timewaster 02-Feb-04 03:22
Re: Telepathic link doesn't explain reincarnation 222 David L 01-Feb-04 01:28
Re: Telepathic link doesn't explain reincarnation 185 Trygve Hogebol 02-Feb-04 03:48
Re: Telepathic link doesn't explain reincarnation 201 Trygve Hogebol 29-Jan-04 02:58
King or pauper 190 Richard Fusniak 29-Jan-04 12:40
Re: King or pauper 188 Saorsa 29-Jan-04 12:51
Re: reincarnation 183 Lee McGiffen 27-Jan-04 10:38


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