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Re: Why are we all sinners?
Date: July 14, 2020 06:52AM
Hello Gerda
Firstly, none of us is a sinner.
Sin is a Judeo-Christian doctrine, made up by early theologians and a concept adopted by some other later Abrahamic religions such as Islam. There is absolutely no justification for choosing this relatively recent religion, its beliefs and traditions and posing a question through its narrow lens though it is perfectly understandable why you have done. You only ask this question because of the place on Earth and time in history into which you have been born and raised.
Had you been born into a culture where Zen Buddhism is practised, where the concept of sin does not exist (though there are five crimes a person is advised never to commit), such a thought may never have entered your head.
Had you been born in Ancient Greece 3,000 years ago you might have couched your ideas in terms of morality - but not sin.
Had you been born in Ancient Egypt 1,500 BCE where acts were discussed in terms of wickedness or cruelty, you would have expressed your question in terms of a violation of law - but not sin.
It is only because you are born into a part of the world where this idea has been promulgated for two millennia that you think to pose such a question.
Matt
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[quote]Why do most people think it is wrong to steal? Probably because they can imagine how annoyed and inconvenienced they would be if they got burgled. [/quote]If survival is at stake, and food supply is scarce, then taking, if they can, the food anothe
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IF food were scarce then we weigh in as survival of the fittest. We are not so noble if we don't have food, the basic neccessity.
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Re: IF food were scarce then we weigh in as survival of the fittest. We are not so noble if we don't have food, the basic neccessity.
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What difference does it make?
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G. F. Handel would Disagree
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Modern update
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Modern junk.......
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I know why we are all sinners!
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It's a sin to tell a lie
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Why you are all sinners, but I am not!
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I knew lots about sin
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The Ground of Being
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You've got it backwards
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You can answer your own questions
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For something you don't believe exists
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Happy endings
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Fat chance
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Sin
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And now-Hope!!!
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Mostly a sweetheart
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Why are we NOT sinners, but consciousness?
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Einstein and the Poet
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Consciousness precedes and supercedes any notion of sin.
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The Physical Reality is composed of 99,99999% emptiness
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To miss the mark
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Early history
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Oh Susan
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About Jesus
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The Christian way
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To mind my own business...
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Itatw70s
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To make an observation of choices of thought....
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