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Yes, Eddie said it well. Con science = with knowledge.
Then you wrote " does he have a bad conscience?" Who, Eddie? No, wait, it was about Rocky! Often we hear somebody say to their pet, even a bird in a cage, naughty boy, naughty boy. I feel so sorry for birds in cages. It is said that Leonardo da Vinci bought all the live birds at a market and let them fly. I hope it is true. I wish I could do the same, except of course the ones in animal hospitals or otherwise dependent on humans.
Very silly to say naughty to an animal. Of course, if you are training a pup you could say it, just so they get the idea by the tone, but never hit them or be nasty. Modern dog training is best done by rewards if they are being clever, rather than punishment if they don't understand. I have been to both types of dog training schools.
Both dogs got washed today, nails clipped, then the vet, a nice young woman, examined them and vaccinated them. Both still healthy at 10 and 11. Nina did her usual pee inside the vet office! Otherwise she is not at all scared there. They have the mop ready when she comes.
Rocky was a bit worried, but they calmed him down. Back home he disappeared way down the garden, before I got the house opened, but six toots with the remote on the car horn got him back straight away. Now, there's a good boy!
Both inside now at the heaters, with a raw carrot in their stomachs. Innocent = not knowing. Hmmm, they know where they would rather be on a cold day!
GG.
Susan Doris Wrote:
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>
> very good topic and for myself, and no doubt for
> others, it is very interesting.
> think. We make mistakes because we've evolved
> that way and, because of language and being able
> to express what we are doing and why, we have
> learnt to understand which behaviours are good,
> i.e. good for others as well as self, and which
> are not.
> As for the word conscience, I see Eddie Larry has
> it in a nutshell in his post.
> seems reasonable that such intelligent animals
> learn behaviours which enable them to survive
> well, but they do not have the language to point
> them out and teach them.
>
> Susan
Then you wrote " does he have a bad conscience?" Who, Eddie? No, wait, it was about Rocky! Often we hear somebody say to their pet, even a bird in a cage, naughty boy, naughty boy. I feel so sorry for birds in cages. It is said that Leonardo da Vinci bought all the live birds at a market and let them fly. I hope it is true. I wish I could do the same, except of course the ones in animal hospitals or otherwise dependent on humans.
Very silly to say naughty to an animal. Of course, if you are training a pup you could say it, just so they get the idea by the tone, but never hit them or be nasty. Modern dog training is best done by rewards if they are being clever, rather than punishment if they don't understand. I have been to both types of dog training schools.
Both dogs got washed today, nails clipped, then the vet, a nice young woman, examined them and vaccinated them. Both still healthy at 10 and 11. Nina did her usual pee inside the vet office! Otherwise she is not at all scared there. They have the mop ready when she comes.
Rocky was a bit worried, but they calmed him down. Back home he disappeared way down the garden, before I got the house opened, but six toots with the remote on the car horn got him back straight away. Now, there's a good boy!
Both inside now at the heaters, with a raw carrot in their stomachs. Innocent = not knowing. Hmmm, they know where they would rather be on a cold day!
GG.
Susan Doris Wrote:
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>
I think it is aQuote
I myself prefer the word wrong-doing for
> things which are not a crime according to the law,
> but still not right according to one's conscience,
> if you have one.
> I just called my post what I did to get
> everybody's attention.
> very good topic and for myself, and no doubt for
> others, it is very interesting.
A neat summing-up IQuote
Sin implies
> a religion, conscience implies more than the basic
> animal instincts.
> think. We make mistakes because we've evolved
> that way and, because of language and being able
> to express what we are doing and why, we have
> learnt to understand which behaviours are good,
> i.e. good for others as well as self, and which
> are not.
> As for the word conscience, I see Eddie Larry has
> it in a nutshell in his post.
I do not know, but itQuote
Does he have
> a bad conscience
> seems reasonable that such intelligent animals
> learn behaviours which enable them to survive
> well, but they do not have the language to point
> them out and teach them.
>
> Susan
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