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Yes, Eddie said it well. Con science = with knowledge.
Then you wrote " does he have a bad conscience?" Who, Eddie? No, wait, it was about Rocky! Often we hear somebody say to their pet, even a bird in a cage, naughty boy, naughty boy. I feel so sorry for birds in cages. It is said that Leonardo da Vinci bought all the live birds at a market and let them fly. I hope it is true. I wish I could do the same, except of course the ones in animal hospitals or otherwise dependent on humans.
Very silly to say naughty to an animal. Of course, if you are training a pup you could say it, just so they get the idea by the tone, but never hit them or be nasty. Modern dog training is best done by rewards if they are being clever, rather than punishment if they don't understand. I have been to both types of dog training schools.

Both dogs got washed today, nails clipped, then the vet, a nice young woman, examined them and vaccinated them. Both still healthy at 10 and 11. Nina did her usual pee inside the vet office! Otherwise she is not at all scared there. They have the mop ready when she comes.
Rocky was a bit worried, but they calmed him down. Back home he disappeared way down the garden, before I got the house opened, but six toots with the remote on the car horn got him back straight away. Now, there's a good boy!
Both inside now at the heaters, with a raw carrot in their stomachs. Innocent = not knowing. Hmmm, they know where they would rather be on a cold day!

GG.


Susan Doris Wrote:
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I myself prefer the word wrong-doing for
> things which are not a crime according to the law,
> but still not right according to one's conscience,
> if you have one.
> I just called my post what I did to get
> everybody's attention.
I think it is a
> very good topic and for myself, and no doubt for
> others, it is very interesting.
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Sin implies
> a religion, conscience implies more than the basic
> animal instincts.
A neat summing-up I
> think. We make mistakes because we've evolved
> that way and, because of language and being able
> to express what we are doing and why, we have
> learnt to understand which behaviours are good,
> i.e. good for others as well as self, and which
> are not.
> As for the word conscience, I see Eddie Larry has
> it in a nutshell in his post.
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Does he have
> a bad conscience
I do not know, but it
> seems reasonable that such intelligent animals
> learn behaviours which enable them to survive
> well, but they do not have the language to point
> them out and teach them.
>
> Susan

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Why are we all sinners? 738 greengirl5 05-Jul-20 09:11
Re: Why are we all sinners? 145 Naveen 05-Jul-20 11:50
Re: Why are we all sinners? 142 Susan Doris 05-Jul-20 13:05
Re: Why are we all sinners? 139 Itatw70s 05-Jul-20 20:46
Light, life, love 123 greengirl5 05-Jul-20 22:39
Re: Light, life, love 120 Itatw70s 05-Jul-20 23:16
Sinners? 124 grangram 06-Jul-20 06:07
Re: Why are we all sinners? 114 Itatw70s 17-Jul-20 00:15
The snake told the Truth 122 Eddie Larry 05-Jul-20 13:58
Re: The snake told the Truth 113 greengirl5 05-Jul-20 14:50
Re: Why are we all sinners? 116 drrayeye 05-Jul-20 14:32
Re: Why are we all sinners? 114 greengirl5 05-Jul-20 15:05
Re: Why are we all sinners? 120 drrayeye 05-Jul-20 16:09
Re: Why are we all sinners? 130 greengirl5 05-Jul-20 22:32
Re: Why are we all sinners? 120 Susan Doris 06-Jul-20 05:40
Re: Why are we all sinners? 108 greengirl5 06-Jul-20 07:05
Re: Why are we all sinners? 136 Susan Doris 06-Jul-20 09:48
Abstract analyses vs. individual reality 110 drrayeye 06-Jul-20 20:23
Re: Abstract analyses vs. individual reality 112 Susan Doris 06-Jul-20 23:06
Your question 112 drrayeye 07-Jul-20 05:09
Re: Your question 118 Susan Doris 07-Jul-20 05:45
Re: Your question 111 Eddie Larry 24-Jul-20 00:29
Re: Your question 105 Susan Doris 24-Jul-20 04:58
Many variants 102 greengirl5 24-Jul-20 08:46
[quote]Why do most people think it is wrong to steal? Probably because they can imagine how annoyed and inconvenienced they would be if they got burgled. [/quote]If survival is at stake, and food supply is scarce, then taking, if they can, the food anothe 114 Susan Doris 24-Jul-20 12:50
Re: [quote]Why do most people think it is wrong to steal? Probably because they can imagine how annoyed and inconvenienced they would be if they got burgled. [/quote]If survival is at stake, and food supply is scarce, then taking, if they can, the food an 108 Itatw70s 25-Jul-20 22:14
IF food were scarce then we weigh in as survival of the fittest. We are not so noble if we don't have food, the basic neccessity. 81 Itatw70s 04-Sep-20 18:49
Re: IF food were scarce then we weigh in as survival of the fittest. We are not so noble if we don't have food, the basic neccessity. 85 Susan Doris 05-Sep-20 04:55
Re: [quote]Why do most people think it is wrong to steal? Probably because they can imagine how annoyed and inconvenienced they would be if they got burgled. [/quote]If survival is at stake, and food supply is scarce, then taking, if they can, the food an 84 Itatw70s 05-Sep-20 14:40
Re: Your question 107 Eddie Larry 24-Jul-20 15:40
Re: Your question 116 Itatw70s 25-Jul-20 22:23
Re: Your question 87 Eddie Larry 03-Sep-20 23:07
Re: Your question 100 Itatw70s 25-Jul-20 22:08
Wrong-doing 113 greengirl5 06-Jul-20 21:55
Re: Wrong-doing 116 Eddie Larry 06-Jul-20 22:27
Re: Wrong-doing 120 Susan Doris 06-Jul-20 23:25
Re: Wrong-doing 131 greengirl5 07-Jul-20 06:30
Re: Why are we all sinners? 138 Susan Doris 05-Jul-20 17:05
What difference does it make? 125 drrayeye 06-Jul-20 01:14
Re: What difference does it make? 108 Susan Doris 06-Jul-20 05:49
Re: Why are we all sinners? 98 Itatw70s 20-Jul-20 17:59
Re: Why are we all sinners? 123 PB Bytes 05-Jul-20 16:36
Re: Why are we all sinners? 110 Eddie Larry 05-Jul-20 18:07
Re: Why are we all sinners? 115 PB Bytes 05-Jul-20 18:17
Re: Why are we all sinners? 118 Eddie Larry 05-Jul-20 18:21
Re: Why are we all sinners? 114 greengirl5 05-Jul-20 23:18
Re: Why are we all sinners? 113 Eddie Larry 05-Jul-20 23:57
Re: Why are we all sinners? 112 greengirl5 06-Jul-20 02:56
Re: Why are we all sinners? 113 Susan Doris 06-Jul-20 07:27
Re: Why are we all sinners? 110 greengirl5 06-Jul-20 22:41
Re: Why are we all sinners? 134 eyeofhorus33 14-Jul-20 06:56
Re: Why are we all sinners? 110 PB Bytes 19-Jul-20 16:18
G. F. Handel would Disagree 110 drrayeye 19-Jul-20 22:02
Re: G. F. Handel would Disagree 111 PB Bytes 19-Jul-20 22:36
Modern update 111 drrayeye 20-Jul-20 03:26
Modern junk....... 86 Itatw70s 04-Sep-20 23:18
Re: Why are we all sinners? 107 Susan Doris 20-Jul-20 04:57
I know why we are all sinners! 110 greengirl5 20-Jul-20 10:04
Re: I know why we are all sinners! 109 Itatw70s 20-Jul-20 18:37
Re: Why are we all sinners? 73 Itatw70s 05-Sep-20 18:49
Re: Why are we all sinners? 126 eli stills 12-Jul-20 22:05
Re: Why are we all sinners? 139 eyeofhorus33 14-Jul-20 06:52
Re: Why are we all sinners? 112 Susan Doris 14-Jul-20 08:11
Re: Why are we all sinners? 113 grangram 14-Jul-20 09:44
Re: Why are we all sinners? 115 Susan Doris 14-Jul-20 09:50
Re: Why are we all sinners? 110 Eddie Larry 14-Jul-20 14:26
Re: Why are we all sinners? 115 PB Bytes 14-Jul-20 14:29
Re: Why are we all sinners? 120 Susan Doris 14-Jul-20 15:28
Re: Why are we all sinners? 124 PB Bytes 14-Jul-20 16:31
Re: Why are we all sinners? 131 eyeofhorus33 16-Jul-20 10:05
Re: Why are we all sinners? 117 Susan Doris 16-Jul-20 10:20
It's a sin to tell a lie 115 drrayeye 16-Jul-20 19:35
Re: It's a sin to tell a lie 113 Itatw70s 17-Jul-20 23:12
Re: Why are we all sinners? 105 PB Bytes 19-Jul-20 17:25
Why you are all sinners, but I am not! 117 greengirl5 15-Jul-20 03:42
I knew lots about sin 108 drrayeye 15-Jul-20 08:45
Re: I knew lots about sin 124 Susan Doris 15-Jul-20 09:02
Re: I knew lots about sin 110 Itatw70s 18-Jul-20 13:15
Re: I knew lots about sin 106 grangram 18-Jul-20 14:14
Re: I knew lots about sin 105 Susan Doris 18-Jul-20 15:19
The Ground of Being 105 grangram 18-Jul-20 17:28
Re: I knew lots about sin 106 Itatw70s 18-Jul-20 21:08
Re: I knew lots about sin 102 Susan Doris 18-Jul-20 15:14
You've got it backwards 101 drrayeye 18-Jul-20 16:58
Re: You've got it backwards 105 Itatw70s 18-Jul-20 21:44
Re: You've got it backwards 108 Susan Doris 19-Jul-20 04:43
Re: You've got it backwards 104 drrayeye 19-Jul-20 06:27
Re: I knew lots about sin 109 Itatw70s 18-Jul-20 21:33
You can answer your own questions 106 drrayeye 18-Jul-20 17:10
Re: Why are we all sinners? 134 eyeofhorus33 16-Jul-20 10:02
Re: Why are we all sinners? 119 greengirl5 15-Jul-20 03:24
Re: Why are we all sinners? 129 eyeofhorus33 16-Jul-20 10:12
Re: Why are we all sinners? 131 grangram 18-Jul-20 05:41
Re: Why are we all sinners? 110 Itatw70s 18-Jul-20 21:55
Re: Why are we all sinners? 80 Itatw70s 05-Sep-20 20:06
Re: Why are we all sinners? 110 Susan Doris 17-Jul-20 09:24
For something you don't believe exists 110 drrayeye 17-Jul-20 10:46
Re: For something you don't believe exists 114 Susan Doris 17-Jul-20 12:37
Re: For something you don't believe exists 108 greengirl5 18-Jul-20 01:18
Re: For something you don't believe exists 110 Susan Doris 18-Jul-20 05:01
Re: For something you don't believe exists 109 greengirl5 18-Jul-20 05:08
Re: For something you don't believe exists 111 Susan Doris 18-Jul-20 07:18
Re: For something you don't believe exists 107 greengirl5 18-Jul-20 14:14
Re: Why are we all graciously Cared For? 118 Itatw70s 17-Jul-20 21:15
Happy endings 108 greengirl5 18-Jul-20 01:24
Re: Happy endings 101 grangram 18-Jul-20 05:23
Fat chance 114 greengirl5 18-Jul-20 01:14
Sin 115 drrayeye 18-Jul-20 17:52
And now-Hope!!! 110 Itatw70s 18-Jul-20 22:07
Sin, nastiness, judging 110 greengirl5 19-Jul-20 00:01
Mostly a sweetheart 109 drrayeye 19-Jul-20 02:51
Re: Mostly a sweetheart 109 greengirl5 19-Jul-20 04:15
Re: Mostly a sweetheart 104 drrayeye 19-Jul-20 05:39
Re: Mostly a sweetheart 92 Itatw70s 04-Sep-20 23:32
Re: Sin, nastiness, judging 105 Itatw70s 23-Jul-20 01:04
Re: Sin, nastiness, judging 109 greengirl5 23-Jul-20 03:11
Re: Sin, nastiness, judging 110 Itatw70s 23-Jul-20 23:22
Re: Sin, nastiness, judging 102 grangram 29-Jul-20 13:26
Re: Sin, nastiness, judging 135 Itatw70s 29-Jul-20 16:04
Re: Why are we all sinners? 123 eyeofhorus33 19-Jul-20 15:46
Re: Why are we all sinners? 114 Susan Doris 19-Jul-20 15:52
Re: Why are we all sinners? 129 eyeofhorus33 19-Jul-20 15:57
Why are we NOT sinners, but consciousness? 117 greengirl5 19-Jul-20 23:25
Einstein and the Poet 105 grangram 20-Jul-20 04:18
Re: Einstein and the Poet 109 greengirl5 20-Jul-20 09:55
Re: Why are we NOT sinners, but consciousness? 110 Eddie Larry 21-Jul-20 16:10
Re: Why are we NOT sinners, but consciousness? 109 Itatw70s 21-Jul-20 16:49
Consciousness precedes and supercedes any notion of sin. 91 Itatw70s 07-Sep-20 23:32
Re: Consciousness precedes and supercedes any notion of sin. 95 Susan Doris 08-Sep-20 05:28
Re: Consciousness precedes and supercedes any notion of sin. 82 Itatw70s 10-Sep-20 16:59
Re: Consciousness precedes and supercedes any notion of sin. 69 Itatw70s 13-Sep-20 19:13
The Physical Reality is composed of 99,99999% emptiness 102 grangram 11-Sep-20 00:10
Re: The Physical Reality is composed of 99,99999% emptiness 84 Susan Doris 11-Sep-20 05:05
Re: The Physical Reality is composed of 99,99999% emptiness 91 Itatw70s 13-Sep-20 19:30
Re: Why are we all sinners? 126 Itatw70s 20-Jul-20 20:07
Re: Why are we all sinners? 105 Susan Doris 21-Jul-20 14:30
Re: Why are we all sinners? 99 Itatw70s 21-Jul-20 16:01
Re: Why are we all sinners? 106 Eddie Larry 21-Jul-20 16:05
Re: Why are we all sinners? 124 Susan Doris 21-Jul-20 17:11
Re: Why are we all sinners? 112 Eddie Larry 22-Jul-20 14:20
Re: Why are we all sinners? 90 Redblade 03-Sep-20 12:48
Re: Why are we all sinners? 83 Itatw70s 03-Sep-20 16:58
To miss the mark 120 grangram 03-Sep-20 18:32
Re: To miss the mark 91 greengirl5 03-Sep-20 23:53
Early history 95 grangram 04-Sep-20 07:00
Re: Early history 2 82 grangram 04-Sep-20 09:22
Re: Early history 2 78 greengirl5 04-Sep-20 12:44
Re: Early history 85 Susan Doris 04-Sep-20 13:55
Oh Susan 85 grangram 05-Sep-20 09:45
Re: Oh Susan 83 Susan Doris 05-Sep-20 13:16
Re: Early history 85 Eddie Larry 04-Sep-20 22:55
Re: Early history 87 grangram 05-Sep-20 08:47
Re: To miss the mark 94 Glass Jigsaw 04-Sep-20 14:50
About Jesus 85 greengirl5 05-Sep-20 01:28
Re: About Jesus 92 Susan Doris 05-Sep-20 05:12
Re: About Jesus 88 greengirl5 05-Sep-20 09:17
Re: About Jesus 81 Eddie Larry 05-Sep-20 15:55
Re: About Jesus 94 Glass Jigsaw 05-Sep-20 16:41
Re: About Jesus 81 Eddie Larry 05-Sep-20 19:31
Re: About Jesus 81 Susan Doris 05-Sep-20 17:20
The Christian way 76 drrayeye 05-Sep-20 19:49
To mind my own business... 77 Itatw70s 05-Sep-20 23:15
To make an observation of choices of thought.... 92 Itatw70s 05-Sep-20 23:27
Re: Why are we all sinners? 107 Bewildered 20-Sep-20 23:42
Re: Why are we all sinners? 137 Susan Doris 21-Sep-20 05:39


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