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Susan reckons there is only behaviour, from good to worse to really bad. But no God to answer to.

The Catholics have the confession box. Good idea? Yes and no. Alas, all too often it is the priest who should confess!

Then, outside the churches, there are the most awful peadophiles, so awful that some police and others get nervous breakdowns just to read about it. Crime or sin?
The devil made them do it. Or their libido, but why couldn't they release it in a less gruesome way? We and all animals have the sex urge built in, but why must humans be so weird about it? It is out of control. Most animals have seasons for it, except the rabbits!

There are also far too many ego maniacs among the alpha males. Can they help being like that? I don't know. Is it too much testosterone? And where does that come from?

What is going to happen to this planet? Who or what is going to fix all the problems? Population reduction from viruses? Nah, a vaccine will be found.

Not my problem anyway, I will just keep on trying my best and hope I don't go senile and silly!

GG.








PB Bytes Wrote:
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> Hi GG
>
>
> To say there is no sin, imo, is a mistake that
> leads to various problems almost immediately. If
> there is no sin then what is up with rapists, etc
> etc?
>
> Growing up, I remember a lot of people who
> rebelled against Christianity strongly opposed
> this idea. "How dare anyone say that I'm a
> sinner!"
>
> I have no issue with sin, personally. I accept
> that I am a sinner. When I understood what I was
> up against, in the Christian theatre, I understood
> immediately that I could never be sinless. I
> understood that to be true of everyone I knew. Why
> would God condemn all sinners if He made us that
> way? There was no need to rebel against the sin
> doctrine for me, because I never bothered to try
> to pretend that sin doesn't exist.
>
> My way of dealing with this, from day one, is has
> been to accept that I am a sinner. I probably sin
> all day long in the eyes of the church. But for
> the most part I am not troubled by my
> consciousness because, on the whole, I I try to do
> what I see has good most times, just like the rest
> of us. Once in a while I screw up, and I try to be
> quick to acknowledge that. You will know that I've
> apologized for my own perceived transgressions
> several times on this board. That, imo, is the
> best way to personally deal with the wages of sin:
> own up to your crap asap.
>
> One of the things I like best about my Roman
> Catholic upbringing, is how it relies on a ritual
> sacrament rather than the approval of an arbiter
> minister or congregation when it comes to how
> sinful or sinless I may be. The matter of my own
> guilt totally between me and God. I personally
> believe that all sin proceeds from a perceived
> separation of our true essence and relationship to
> Creation. It's a consequence of finite
> consciousness.
>
> What I personally think is really going on with
> Christianity and sin, has something to do
> with Jesus' perception of sin's metaphysical
> consequences. I believe he could see something
> that the rest of us could not, and this prompted
> Jesus to say what he did about sin. I guess that's
> the essence of faith.
>
> Keep taking care of those animals, GG ! ! !

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Why are we all sinners? 738 greengirl5 05-Jul-20 09:11
Re: Why are we all sinners? 145 Naveen 05-Jul-20 11:50
Re: Why are we all sinners? 142 Susan Doris 05-Jul-20 13:05
Re: Why are we all sinners? 139 Itatw70s 05-Jul-20 20:46
Light, life, love 123 greengirl5 05-Jul-20 22:39
Re: Light, life, love 121 Itatw70s 05-Jul-20 23:16
Sinners? 124 grangram 06-Jul-20 06:07
Re: Why are we all sinners? 115 Itatw70s 17-Jul-20 00:15
The snake told the Truth 122 Eddie Larry 05-Jul-20 13:58
Re: The snake told the Truth 114 greengirl5 05-Jul-20 14:50
Re: Why are we all sinners? 117 drrayeye 05-Jul-20 14:32
Re: Why are we all sinners? 114 greengirl5 05-Jul-20 15:05
Re: Why are we all sinners? 120 drrayeye 05-Jul-20 16:09
Re: Why are we all sinners? 130 greengirl5 05-Jul-20 22:32
Re: Why are we all sinners? 120 Susan Doris 06-Jul-20 05:40
Re: Why are we all sinners? 109 greengirl5 06-Jul-20 07:05
Re: Why are we all sinners? 136 Susan Doris 06-Jul-20 09:48
Abstract analyses vs. individual reality 110 drrayeye 06-Jul-20 20:23
Re: Abstract analyses vs. individual reality 112 Susan Doris 06-Jul-20 23:06
Your question 112 drrayeye 07-Jul-20 05:09
Re: Your question 118 Susan Doris 07-Jul-20 05:45
Re: Your question 111 Eddie Larry 24-Jul-20 00:29
Re: Your question 105 Susan Doris 24-Jul-20 04:58
Many variants 102 greengirl5 24-Jul-20 08:46
[quote]Why do most people think it is wrong to steal? Probably because they can imagine how annoyed and inconvenienced they would be if they got burgled. [/quote]If survival is at stake, and food supply is scarce, then taking, if they can, the food anothe 114 Susan Doris 24-Jul-20 12:50
Re: [quote]Why do most people think it is wrong to steal? Probably because they can imagine how annoyed and inconvenienced they would be if they got burgled. [/quote]If survival is at stake, and food supply is scarce, then taking, if they can, the food an 108 Itatw70s 25-Jul-20 22:14
IF food were scarce then we weigh in as survival of the fittest. We are not so noble if we don't have food, the basic neccessity. 81 Itatw70s 04-Sep-20 18:49
Re: IF food were scarce then we weigh in as survival of the fittest. We are not so noble if we don't have food, the basic neccessity. 86 Susan Doris 05-Sep-20 04:55
Re: [quote]Why do most people think it is wrong to steal? Probably because they can imagine how annoyed and inconvenienced they would be if they got burgled. [/quote]If survival is at stake, and food supply is scarce, then taking, if they can, the food an 84 Itatw70s 05-Sep-20 14:40
Re: Your question 108 Eddie Larry 24-Jul-20 15:40
Re: Your question 117 Itatw70s 25-Jul-20 22:23
Re: Your question 88 Eddie Larry 03-Sep-20 23:07
Re: Your question 100 Itatw70s 25-Jul-20 22:08
Wrong-doing 113 greengirl5 06-Jul-20 21:55
Re: Wrong-doing 116 Eddie Larry 06-Jul-20 22:27
Re: Wrong-doing 120 Susan Doris 06-Jul-20 23:25
Re: Wrong-doing 132 greengirl5 07-Jul-20 06:30
Re: Why are we all sinners? 138 Susan Doris 05-Jul-20 17:05
What difference does it make? 125 drrayeye 06-Jul-20 01:14
Re: What difference does it make? 108 Susan Doris 06-Jul-20 05:49
Re: Why are we all sinners? 98 Itatw70s 20-Jul-20 17:59
Re: Why are we all sinners? 123 PB Bytes 05-Jul-20 16:36
Re: Why are we all sinners? 110 Eddie Larry 05-Jul-20 18:07
Re: Why are we all sinners? 115 PB Bytes 05-Jul-20 18:17
Re: Why are we all sinners? 118 Eddie Larry 05-Jul-20 18:21
Re: Why are we all sinners? 114 greengirl5 05-Jul-20 23:18
Re: Why are we all sinners? 113 Eddie Larry 05-Jul-20 23:57
Re: Why are we all sinners? 112 greengirl5 06-Jul-20 02:56
Re: Why are we all sinners? 113 Susan Doris 06-Jul-20 07:27
Re: Why are we all sinners? 110 greengirl5 06-Jul-20 22:41
Re: Why are we all sinners? 134 eyeofhorus33 14-Jul-20 06:56
Re: Why are we all sinners? 110 PB Bytes 19-Jul-20 16:18
G. F. Handel would Disagree 110 drrayeye 19-Jul-20 22:02
Re: G. F. Handel would Disagree 111 PB Bytes 19-Jul-20 22:36
Modern update 111 drrayeye 20-Jul-20 03:26
Modern junk....... 86 Itatw70s 04-Sep-20 23:18
Re: Why are we all sinners? 107 Susan Doris 20-Jul-20 04:57
I know why we are all sinners! 110 greengirl5 20-Jul-20 10:04
Re: I know why we are all sinners! 109 Itatw70s 20-Jul-20 18:37
Re: Why are we all sinners? 73 Itatw70s 05-Sep-20 18:49
Re: Why are we all sinners? 126 eli stills 12-Jul-20 22:05
Re: Why are we all sinners? 139 eyeofhorus33 14-Jul-20 06:52
Re: Why are we all sinners? 112 Susan Doris 14-Jul-20 08:11
Re: Why are we all sinners? 113 grangram 14-Jul-20 09:44
Re: Why are we all sinners? 115 Susan Doris 14-Jul-20 09:50
Re: Why are we all sinners? 110 Eddie Larry 14-Jul-20 14:26
Re: Why are we all sinners? 116 PB Bytes 14-Jul-20 14:29
Re: Why are we all sinners? 120 Susan Doris 14-Jul-20 15:28
Re: Why are we all sinners? 124 PB Bytes 14-Jul-20 16:31
Re: Why are we all sinners? 131 eyeofhorus33 16-Jul-20 10:05
Re: Why are we all sinners? 117 Susan Doris 16-Jul-20 10:20
It's a sin to tell a lie 115 drrayeye 16-Jul-20 19:35
Re: It's a sin to tell a lie 113 Itatw70s 17-Jul-20 23:12
Re: Why are we all sinners? 105 PB Bytes 19-Jul-20 17:25
Why you are all sinners, but I am not! 117 greengirl5 15-Jul-20 03:42
I knew lots about sin 108 drrayeye 15-Jul-20 08:45
Re: I knew lots about sin 124 Susan Doris 15-Jul-20 09:02
Re: I knew lots about sin 111 Itatw70s 18-Jul-20 13:15
Re: I knew lots about sin 106 grangram 18-Jul-20 14:14
Re: I knew lots about sin 105 Susan Doris 18-Jul-20 15:19
The Ground of Being 105 grangram 18-Jul-20 17:28
Re: I knew lots about sin 106 Itatw70s 18-Jul-20 21:08
Re: I knew lots about sin 102 Susan Doris 18-Jul-20 15:14
You've got it backwards 101 drrayeye 18-Jul-20 16:58
Re: You've got it backwards 105 Itatw70s 18-Jul-20 21:44
Re: You've got it backwards 108 Susan Doris 19-Jul-20 04:43
Re: You've got it backwards 105 drrayeye 19-Jul-20 06:27
Re: I knew lots about sin 110 Itatw70s 18-Jul-20 21:33
You can answer your own questions 106 drrayeye 18-Jul-20 17:10
Re: Why are we all sinners? 134 eyeofhorus33 16-Jul-20 10:02
Re: Why are we all sinners? 119 greengirl5 15-Jul-20 03:24
Re: Why are we all sinners? 129 eyeofhorus33 16-Jul-20 10:12
Re: Why are we all sinners? 131 grangram 18-Jul-20 05:41
Re: Why are we all sinners? 110 Itatw70s 18-Jul-20 21:55
Re: Why are we all sinners? 80 Itatw70s 05-Sep-20 20:06
Re: Why are we all sinners? 110 Susan Doris 17-Jul-20 09:24
For something you don't believe exists 110 drrayeye 17-Jul-20 10:46
Re: For something you don't believe exists 114 Susan Doris 17-Jul-20 12:37
Re: For something you don't believe exists 108 greengirl5 18-Jul-20 01:18
Re: For something you don't believe exists 110 Susan Doris 18-Jul-20 05:01
Re: For something you don't believe exists 109 greengirl5 18-Jul-20 05:08
Re: For something you don't believe exists 111 Susan Doris 18-Jul-20 07:18
Re: For something you don't believe exists 107 greengirl5 18-Jul-20 14:14
Re: Why are we all graciously Cared For? 118 Itatw70s 17-Jul-20 21:15
Happy endings 108 greengirl5 18-Jul-20 01:24
Re: Happy endings 101 grangram 18-Jul-20 05:23
Fat chance 114 greengirl5 18-Jul-20 01:14
Sin 115 drrayeye 18-Jul-20 17:52
And now-Hope!!! 110 Itatw70s 18-Jul-20 22:07
Sin, nastiness, judging 110 greengirl5 19-Jul-20 00:01
Mostly a sweetheart 109 drrayeye 19-Jul-20 02:51
Re: Mostly a sweetheart 109 greengirl5 19-Jul-20 04:15
Re: Mostly a sweetheart 104 drrayeye 19-Jul-20 05:39
Re: Mostly a sweetheart 92 Itatw70s 04-Sep-20 23:32
Re: Sin, nastiness, judging 105 Itatw70s 23-Jul-20 01:04
Re: Sin, nastiness, judging 109 greengirl5 23-Jul-20 03:11
Re: Sin, nastiness, judging 110 Itatw70s 23-Jul-20 23:22
Re: Sin, nastiness, judging 102 grangram 29-Jul-20 13:26
Re: Sin, nastiness, judging 135 Itatw70s 29-Jul-20 16:04
Re: Why are we all sinners? 123 eyeofhorus33 19-Jul-20 15:46
Re: Why are we all sinners? 114 Susan Doris 19-Jul-20 15:52
Re: Why are we all sinners? 129 eyeofhorus33 19-Jul-20 15:57
Why are we NOT sinners, but consciousness? 117 greengirl5 19-Jul-20 23:25
Einstein and the Poet 105 grangram 20-Jul-20 04:18
Re: Einstein and the Poet 109 greengirl5 20-Jul-20 09:55
Re: Why are we NOT sinners, but consciousness? 110 Eddie Larry 21-Jul-20 16:10
Re: Why are we NOT sinners, but consciousness? 109 Itatw70s 21-Jul-20 16:49
Consciousness precedes and supercedes any notion of sin. 91 Itatw70s 07-Sep-20 23:32
Re: Consciousness precedes and supercedes any notion of sin. 95 Susan Doris 08-Sep-20 05:28
Re: Consciousness precedes and supercedes any notion of sin. 82 Itatw70s 10-Sep-20 16:59
Re: Consciousness precedes and supercedes any notion of sin. 69 Itatw70s 13-Sep-20 19:13
The Physical Reality is composed of 99,99999% emptiness 102 grangram 11-Sep-20 00:10
Re: The Physical Reality is composed of 99,99999% emptiness 84 Susan Doris 11-Sep-20 05:05
Re: The Physical Reality is composed of 99,99999% emptiness 91 Itatw70s 13-Sep-20 19:30
Re: Why are we all sinners? 126 Itatw70s 20-Jul-20 20:07
Re: Why are we all sinners? 105 Susan Doris 21-Jul-20 14:30
Re: Why are we all sinners? 99 Itatw70s 21-Jul-20 16:01
Re: Why are we all sinners? 106 Eddie Larry 21-Jul-20 16:05
Re: Why are we all sinners? 124 Susan Doris 21-Jul-20 17:11
Re: Why are we all sinners? 112 Eddie Larry 22-Jul-20 14:20
Re: Why are we all sinners? 90 Redblade 03-Sep-20 12:48
Re: Why are we all sinners? 83 Itatw70s 03-Sep-20 16:58
To miss the mark 120 grangram 03-Sep-20 18:32
Re: To miss the mark 91 greengirl5 03-Sep-20 23:53
Early history 95 grangram 04-Sep-20 07:00
Re: Early history 2 82 grangram 04-Sep-20 09:22
Re: Early history 2 78 greengirl5 04-Sep-20 12:44
Re: Early history 85 Susan Doris 04-Sep-20 13:55
Oh Susan 85 grangram 05-Sep-20 09:45
Re: Oh Susan 83 Susan Doris 05-Sep-20 13:16
Re: Early history 85 Eddie Larry 04-Sep-20 22:55
Re: Early history 87 grangram 05-Sep-20 08:47
Re: To miss the mark 94 Glass Jigsaw 04-Sep-20 14:50
About Jesus 85 greengirl5 05-Sep-20 01:28
Re: About Jesus 92 Susan Doris 05-Sep-20 05:12
Re: About Jesus 88 greengirl5 05-Sep-20 09:17
Re: About Jesus 81 Eddie Larry 05-Sep-20 15:55
Re: About Jesus 94 Glass Jigsaw 05-Sep-20 16:41
Re: About Jesus 81 Eddie Larry 05-Sep-20 19:31
Re: About Jesus 81 Susan Doris 05-Sep-20 17:20
The Christian way 76 drrayeye 05-Sep-20 19:49
To mind my own business... 77 Itatw70s 05-Sep-20 23:15
To make an observation of choices of thought.... 92 Itatw70s 05-Sep-20 23:27
Re: Why are we all sinners? 107 Bewildered 20-Sep-20 23:42
Re: Why are we all sinners? 137 Susan Doris 21-Sep-20 05:39


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